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I’m going to say a thing. I hope you give me as much time as that other anon. I think I know who it is, and if it is, it’s a former mutual who decided to block me and other black fans who weren’t going along with the JJ is the debil stuff. I’ll try to confine this to five asks. No one, not ONE Finn fan of color who isn’t a reylo was jumping for joy when JJ was announced. And if that anon claims we were they’re lying OR they’re talking about black reylos who think JJ loves their shit ship. 1)

Here’s the thing. Disney was never going to hire Ryan, or Ava,
or Barry, or Antoine or Justin. That was known. They were going to hire a
middle aged white guy full stop. I think if Rian Johnson had refrained
from killing off Luke, KKK would have gotten the OK to retain him. Is
that what that anon and others like them want? Finn doing a softshoe
routine before being eaten by a rathtar while Rey sucks Kylo’s dick in
the bg? Because that’s what would have happened with Rian Johnson
returning. 2)

And as for Colin Trevorrow being as bad as JJ so they might as
well have kept him – the Colin Trevorrow who gushed about wanting to
return to SW’s (all white) roots? That Colin Trevorrow? The Colin
Trevorrow who jizzed over Oscar Isaac and said Poe was his favorite new
character and hinted that Damerey was his preferred ship? That Colin
Trevorrow? The Colin Trevorrow who didn’t say thing one, two or three
about John, Finn, or any arc he had in mind for the MALE LEAD? That
Colin Trevorrow? 3)

JJ Abrams is a white, rich, cishet, middle-aged man. In many
ways, he was the wrong choice from the jump for this sort of franchise.
He was probably the wrong choice for the ST reboot too, but hey. But if
people like that anon and the other people who want to burn JJ at the
stake for TFA, they’re basically saying they would have been cool with
an even worse white male cishet director – because they would be the
ONLY ones considered – being even more shitty to Finn because JJ is
evil, amirite? 4)

I don’t have high expectations of IX. But John was lackluster in
the runup to TLJ. Now he is excited. He had plenty of time to post to
social media back then, now he can only do it once in a blue moon
suggesting that he is shooting a lot. So that anon and others like them
can kiss my black ass. Settle down and wait for the fucking movie, or
just leave. I’m not going to have my one last shred of hope dimmed by
people who hate JJ and feel morally superior. Fuck that and fuck them.
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This lines up with my feelings about JJ as well. He is very far from perfect, but he is the least worst of possible (emphasis on “possible”) alternatives. I completely understand if people are angry at the shit he pulled and don’t have any hope that he will treat Finn better than in TFA, or that Naomi’s character will be treated well for that matter.

As I see it the solution is NOT to yell at people for having any anticipation or joy for IX, though. If a franchise is no longer fun for them to the extent they find themselves unable to watch others having fun, then that’s probably not the right space for them at least at the moment. It is sad and unfair that so many Black fans have left because of all these franchise and fandom shenanigans, but they had to do what was best for them.

Yeah issa no for me. JJ Abrams went to Ava DuVernay for advice and took it and also hired Victoria Mahoney on Ava’s recommendation. Rian is still talking about Russian bots being the reason TLJ was panned. Oh and JJ didn’t cast cumbersome as khan and in fact wasn’t feeling that casting but after del toro turned down the role and the studio didn’t think Michael Pena was a fit he went along with it to keep the movie on schedule. I wish people would at least google before shitting on people.

I hope JJ actually listens to Ava and Vic, at least as much for the portrayal of Naomi’s character as John’s. At least JJ shows a sign of giving a shit and wanting to learn, as opposed to RJ who flat-out refuses to admit to any mistakes and makes increasingly piteous excuses.

I don’t give JJ a pass for Khan, though. No matter what the production snafus might have been, JJ bore ultimate responsibility as the director. George Takei was right when he said it would have been better for the Cumbaya character to be a new character separate from Khan.

I wouldn’t call it dogpiling tbh but there were black fans who said that JJ really wasn’t that much of an improvement over Rian and there were some people saying that was a shitty take because JJ fought for John to be cast in the first place. But it wasn’t widespread.

Ah, I see what you mean. That defense of JJ just sounds like a Bad Take, it almost seems like fans were being told to be grateful there’s a Black character in the movie at all? Wanting John to be cast and using him effectively are two different things.

I actually have to disagree with you and anon in the other direction. JJ has acknowledged he made errors in TFA. My thought at his returning when he could have just said no is that he felt responsible for the degrading of characters he created and loved. I think Finn is going to have a good arc. What I do think is off the table is a romance with Rey for him. It will be Rose or no one. JJ has had issues but equating him with a racist like Rian is kind of not it.

I certainly hope you’re right. I mean I dare not hope too much, but I’d be happy if he had a good arc. I’m not sure why you’re so sure about Finnrose, though, since Finn and Rey have so much more buildup to the extent even John publicly said he preferred Finnrey. I’d really hate to see the FRIENDZONE!!111one assholes validated on this.

lj-writes:

Wow… China is putting Muslims in concentration camps and saying that Muslims keeping halal turns them into extremists… this major world power is seriously out there acting and talking like a Stormfart wet dream.

And you know what? All of you atheists who bought into the line that religion is the font of all evil and acted like anti-religious regimes could never be evil on par with religious ones? From the bottom of my atheist heart to each and every one of you, get fucked.

Yeah, I totally imagined all those attacks and dogpiling on me and other Black fans that happened when we spoke out about JJ coming back. Most of them coming from your echo chamber and how everyone who didn’t participate in those attacks was too happy to let them happen and to do nothing. That’s what I meant about silencing.

Anyone knows what anon is talking about? I don’t recall it, but that doesn’t mean it couldn’t have happened.

It tick me off sometimes that Reylo’s will “only” support John Boyega and his Character is if they ask him about Adam like how he’s doing or can you take a picture of Adam and Daisy together. Like shut up you don’t care about him or his character just bc what he post or talk about SW doesn’t mean he will do what f*cking Reylo’s ask him to do, he ain’t no errand boy. Reylo’s don’t care about John Boyega/Finn, Daisy Ridley/Rey they only care about they’re precious Adam/whiney benny boy.

The ones who give these requests to John are so fucking RUDE, acting like a world-famous actor is their personal paparazzo.

I understand what you mean, but I also understand the other anon. It’s not really a referendum on JJ as a person, it’s on him as a writer. I think that it’s not accurate to say that if Finn had been the one shown as Force Sensitive kicking Kylo’s ass that Rian would have just shat on him to the extent he did. Remember how mad Poe fans were about his characterization? People would be wondering where Finn was. But that’s not how JJ set it up, allowing Rian to be able to do his dirt.

As a person, as a writer, who cares, I’ve dragged JJ for TFA along with just about every Finn fan. I don’t even disagree with anon that it’s possible IX could treat Finn badly. I only disagree with that anon on the very narrow point that JJ left Finn’s story with no clear direction at the end of TFA and that Finn’s story can’t be good because it did not take one extremely specific path in TFA. For that matter, I disagree with you too that RJ would have treated Finn any better if he were a Jedi. Racism always finds a way.