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It’s honestly distracting how inconsistent TLJ is

It really is! I remember this article where RJ said he was surprised at how much freedom he was given to shape events. For that matter, tie-in authors have talked about the amazing amount of freedom they had, too. In retrospect that was not a good thing, because while creators were given the freedom to make Star Wars thought-provoking, fun, diverse, and queer off the big screen, it also meant a bad writer like RJ could make a terrible and incoherent mess of the biggest and best-known vehicle of canon–a saga movie–and no one stopped him with even basic adherence to canon materials. LFL clearly did not have a plan, and if it did it failed to stick to it.

themandalorianwolf:

If Leia dies in Star Wars Episode IX, than the movie is trash. I don’t care. She dies, it’s trash and anyone who thinks it’s a good idea is just as wrong as the concept of killing her off. Carrie deserves better than some off screen shit show death to motivate the plot or tantrum pain. 

Keep her General Organa or make her Chancellor Organa, but killing Carrie Fisher’s Leia off in some old footage is disrespectful and I highly doubt Todd Fisher or Billie Lourd would have ever signed off on that, and I bet Mark Hamill would have never agreed to do any movie where he had to watch one of his Life long friends die in some shitty CGI snuff scene.

Fuck Leia death theories, they are the most invalid.

Besides, her possible death was already played with and discarded in TLJ, poorly as it was done. It would be shitty on multiple levels to do it all over again except for realsies this time because that’s gritty or some shit. Leia fought and survived more than anyone should ever have. Let her grow old in peace, a beloved and revered leader, doted on by her actual children and bearers of her legacy–Finn, Rey, and Poe.

It seems quite possible that TLJ was written without Cobalt Squadron in mind, because looking at both of them, it seems like nothing related to CS is brought up in TLJ at all. We may have had a problem with writers not consulting each other.

opisrussianonmain:

lj-writes:

Yeah, I think LF massively dropped the ball on keeping canon consistent, and for that matter reining in RJ’s worst impulses.

I think that while both Cobalt Squadron and the gameplay for Battlefront II Single Player was written with the writers having zero knowledge about the plot in TLJ because Rian was that intent on keeping everything a freaking secret. So the writers did what writers are wont to do and treated the heroes as you know, the actual heroes, inadvertently causing a heap of continuity problems because people who didn’t know each other now do (Holdo and Rose) or have knowledge that makes them right when the plot in TLJ tries to discredit their actions (Poe).

This si where the story group should have come in and done their damn job at keeping continuity consistent. So yeah CS was written after TLJ but the author clearly had no idea about the plot or how the characters would be treated and the story group did jack shit to correct matters. And that’s entirely on LF and the story group.

And fans trying to make sense of this mess is nothing new, we been doing this damn shit since 1980 where the first plot inconsistencies happened. And really the only thing that makes sense with Rose not even considering going to Holdo is that she for some reason dislikes the woman, with the plot in CS in mind and how Holdo have “forgotten” everything about her, it is not hard to envision why.

The result of all this is that TLJ has become the odd one out in canon, treating the heroes as bumbling and incompetent when they were, like, actually heroic in the EU. And the only way to reconcile the differences is to add in a whole lot of subtext and read the text in ways the creators never seem to have intended, such as Holdo being the worst boss ever or Poe being right all along. It’s why, for those who had problems with it, TLJ is vastly improved simply by reading in different subtexts and making minor changes so the subtext is validated by text (link). I noticed that some of the fans who enjoy TLJ do something similar, by adding details in their own heads to make the incongruities fit (link, link). These aren’t interpretations that are supported by and expand the canon, such as reading coping mechanisms into Finn’s actions in the movies (link). Rather these are readings that have to contradict heavy-handedly stated authorial intent in order to fix what is broken.

This is exactly the kind of thing LF and Story Group should have worked with RJ to fix before the movie came out, but instead they were content to release a flawed and incoherent product. Or maybe they were forced to by an overloaded schedule that culminated in the financial failure of Solo, but the end result is the same: The product is poor and made no sense in the larger universe that LF itself validated as being canonical. They failed at their jobs.

goldstarprivilege:

muchymozzarella:

afunnyfeminist:

ghastderp:

i love sir patrick stewart more with each passing day.

See, guys. This is how you do it. Notice the words “Not all men are like that” are never spoken.

He knows men are like that

his father was like that to his mother

he has experienced the pain firsthand, of what it’s like when men are like that

and he never wants men to be like that again and he fights tooth and nail against the men who are still like that

And moreover, he acknowledges his privilege [as an older white male who is famous/well known] and uses it to speak up. He knows what he is, and he never has to say he’s not like those men he fights against—he never says it, his actions speak loud enough for everyone else to see it. 

Sir Patrick Stewart, everyone.