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When TFA came out my dad wasn’t impressed with the attractiveness of the cast. He thought Daisy was “alright” but John was “funny looking” (I guess Finn does make some weird faces sometimes?) and Kylo Ren looked like a zitty teenager with a big potato nose (had to agree with him there.) But hilariously, he said the best-looking person in the movie was probably Harrison Ford.

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Yeah John is an actor with awesome comic chops and I think a lot of people used that as an excuse to pass him off as comic relief. He has plenty of serious scenes, though, where his heartthrob handsomeness comes into full relief. I know intellectually Daisy is a beautiful young woman but on a personal level she fills me with meh. Adam… omg 😂 I don’t think he’s a conventionally handsome guy, but I can see something endearingly coltish and and awkward in him. I wonder if that’s one reason people perceive his character as much younger? Harrison did look good lol.

I’ve always found John beautiful even before I saw him in TFA. When I first saw Daisy I found her kind of weird looking, I thought her forehead was just giant, now I find her really pretty though. When I first saw Adam I kid you not I thought “what the fuck is wrong with this guy’s face???” and I know I’ll get beaten up for this. 😂😂

I still contend that Kylo acts and looks like Napoleon Dynamite, and I thought that was the whole point. He was this super awkward, fairly unattractive incel. I remember seen some Reyno pic set where Kylo takes off his helmet and they’ve captioned Rey’s reaction as, “Oh no, he’s hot!” and it blows my mind, because my reaction to that reveal was, “Oh no, he’s a mouthbreather!”

I get that beauty is subjective, and it doesn’t bother or surprise me that some people find Adam Driver attractive. There’s someone for everyone, and it’s not like he’s hideous… but to me he’s far from conventionally attractive, and it baffles me that so many people apparently think he’s really good looking.

Rey canonically did not think he was hot, in the novelization she thought he was ordinary like the young scavenging human men she had seen on Jakku.

We have Word of God from Pablo Hidalgo that the FO runs on the power of incel so that comparison is probably spot on 😂

Not the same anon, but I’m in those high end Star Wars costume clubs that work under the guidance of Lucasfilm and there are so many white male/female couples (and unfortunately they aren’t all straight, we have the evil in our house too) who do Reylo as their costumes and it’s super gross. Rey is hanging out with all the Sith and Imperials because she can’t leave her boyfriend’s side for four hours for a charity event. It confuses the children and as an abuse survivor makes me want to scream.

Oh, ew. Depending on the nature of the event that could be really inappropriate.

korr/se/ra reblogs and agrees with goldbatg/nder who is lesophobic and a very big pedophile apologist so I wont even want to hear a word that comes from them let alone how they see antis

Idk is goldbatge/der a pedo apologist? They seem to stand for the very modest proposal that people should not be harassed and attacked solely for creating age gap fiction, which I agree with. Doesn’t mean I like that kind of thing, doesn’t mean we can’t discuss framing and authorial responsibility and the kinds of arguments used in support of ships that could apply to real life (although conveniently, the people who do no more than this are also lumped in as harassers and abusers–what a gr8 silencing tactic!). But overall, “don’t suicide bait people or purposefully trigger them” seems to be pretty mild stuff.

Btw I’m also not in love with the way this person represents fandom racism discourse or how they seem perfectly fine with erein/0n, who among too much other shit to list has called d/verseh/ghfantasy a fascist. Nor do I agree with their lovely take that all antis are pedophile apologists. (Wow I didn’t even know that about myself, thanks!) So the usual anti-anti miscategorization, false accusation and other bs, but not pedophile apologism as far as I can see. And the only thing relating to lesbophobia I could find was about how the all-pink lesbian flag doesn’t represent all lesbians, which doesn’t sound horrible? I mean I’m not a lesbian so I’m speaking from the outside on this of course.

Actually, it turns out Margaret Sanger wasn’t even pro-abortion– she was against it, believing it to be a form of killing. Good for her. Um… which means, isn’t Planned Parenthood disrespecting her legacy by providing abortions? Contraceptives should be the go-to for birth control and family planning, not abortion.

Is this the same anon? Sanger was an evil racist and eugenicist BUT PP also needs to respect her *legacy* by not providing abortions? I sense a Catch-22 here.

I mean my whole post was about how an organization and movement can take on life wholly separate from their founders and leaders and shouldn’t be defined entirely by these figures, but go off I guess…

Pro-choice or not, nobody should support Planned Parenthood. Margaret Sanger was antiblack and created PP specifically to abort black babies and reduce the Negro population. She was a eugenicist. In edition to thinning the Black population (spinning it as a way of improving ghetto life and earning the praise of MLK for it) she also ableist and wanted fewer disabled persons, advocating their segregation and sterilization. Chilling, Naziesque stuff. PP doesn’t deserve anyone’s support.

Margaret Sanger wanting to thin the U.S. Black population is an anti-abortion lie. https://rewire.news/article/2015/08/20/false-narratives-margaret-sanger-used-shame-black-women/ And yeah, she was a eugenics supporter, as many intellectuals were in her time. It’s true that’s indefensible. I find no evidence that this detestable idea infects PP’s current work, however. Are you going to refuse to use contraceptives if you’re in the U.S. because Sanger was a tireless advocate of birth control and contributed to making it legal in the States? Lmao

Reylos won’t rest until they’ve run every black anti out of this fandom. I hate them so much

Saaaaaame. And they justify it by deliberately conflating all antis with a subset of awful harassers, ignoring the fact that antis who operate under their own names are by and large people who just don’t like a fucking fictional ship and engage in discourse about it. I have literally seen anti-antis like @korrasera (whose take on other subjects I respect) say all antis are by definition authoritarian harassers. Way to ignore the fact that, in reality, the word is also used to describe people who do no such thing. It’s like saying all anti-abortion people are killers or complicit in sheltering killers. I fucking hate the anti-abortion movement and am well aware that there is a strong authoritarian streak in the movement. A number of them are in fact bullies, harassers, and terrorists. That doesn’t mean anti-abortion thought is inherently authoritarian or violent, just goddamned stupid and sexist.

Some leaders of the Tatooine alliance. I don’t have any names, but some characteristics. The Hutt helped the locals take over his family’s empire on the planet. Hutts still live on Tatooine, but they aren’t in dominant power. They were kind of ostracized from the family due to being born with multiple disabilities, and they thus know what it’s like to be treated as lesser than unlike most hutts. This hutt’s not evil, but still holds a typical hutt’s snobbishness, even if only as an act. Despite that, their legitimate businesspersonhood allows Tatooine to stay free from the crime Rings it used to house.

The Tusken Swordsman and his Sniper daughter. They represent a desert dwelling clan, and are talented hunters and warriors. The father is a compassionate leader, though overly protective of his daughter. The daughter is more of a hardened warrior type, but still likes to express her femininity on rare occasions of peace or victory.

The Jawa is a tech guru, who has helped bring her band into the post-Imperial world. The sandcrawlers that are used in the Battle of Tatooine are her designs, and the Jawas of her band fit more of the Silicon Valley stereotype instead of being traditional merchants. Her daughter is the Jawa that owned the toy Finn carries on his belt. (Moth)