diversehighfantasy:

fuckyeahrebelfinn:

1) I wasn’t glossing over any fact. Poe is a deutertagonist. He was a duetertagonist in TFA and he was a deutertagonist in TLJ as well. 

That word means secondary lead. 

What it does not mean and what you and every other Antiblack Poe stan – that btw seems to be the lot of you – in this fandom doesn’t get is that that doesn’t mean he won’t have a story line of his own.

This does still not make him the male lead.. It doesn’t make him male protagonist of the ST. That is still Finn. And as deutertagonist Poe is going to be supporting Finn’s story, just like he did in TLJ never mind that he also had a story of his own.

Of course, you’re far too Antiblack to notice any of this, much less accept that Poe is the secondary male lead in the ST. He is and have always been a secondary character to Finn’s main male lead. That is not going to change in IX.

2) I was connecting Finn to the main villain. Who is Kylo Ren. Who happens to be played by a white dude yes. Not the issue and you damn well know this, you’re just being a hypocrite.

And since Rey, the main female lead, is bound to be in that conflict somewhere too I mentioned her. While I personally would rather leave her out of that conflict as she’s already defeated Kylo and left him in the dust twice and seeing the two go at it again will be boring, I doubt JJ is going to do that. Hence why she’s mentioned in the post.

And yes I’d much rather have had a Rey of color, but the casting is what it is. Still not the issue and you damn well know that.

Finn’s narrative importance depends very much on his being in the main conflict. We saw what happened when he’s put in a side story in TLJ, I do not want that to happen again. What is more, Finn being directly involved against Kylo Ren – apart from being the only thing that fits his set up in TFA – does affect his perceived importance in both media and fandom.

Or didn’t you notice how everyone was throwing tantrums before TFA because it looked like the central hero and Jedi was going to be a Black man? A breathed a collective sigh of relief when it became clear that at least the Jedi legacy appeared to be safely in white hands, even if said hands were female?

Also, Finn not being involved in the main conflict and going directly against Kylo, goes against everything that John indicated about how the shooting is going, that all of them are together. Finn and Rey, and also Poe and Rose. (Funny how you give fuck all about Rose.) And Adam, hence Kylo will be there as well.

But you seem to want Finn kept in a side plot again. You seem to want Finn to be kept safely away from any conflict with Kylo Ren and have him play second fiddle to Poe, to keep him from righteously kicking Kylo’s ass at last after being defeated at the end of TFA. As a bare minimum, Finn should be allowed to do that much, to get restitution for that defeat. And that would mean placing him in the focus of the story and in Kylo Ren’s path, where Finn belongs as he’s the male protagonist in the ST.

Wonder why you don’t want to have him there? Why you don’t want him to have that?

Don’t bother answering though. For one thing I already know the answer to this question- For another you’re blocked!

Stay mad about that.

~Mod Mara

Here’s the thing: For Finn to be a lead (and he is), his relationships with white characters are important, because the other protagonist is a white woman. His relationship with Han was important, his relationship with Phasma is important, and his foil relationship with Kylo Ren is important. And yes, I hope he somehow forges a relationship with Luke, too.

This is not to say his relationships with Poe and Rose aren’t important – they are. But miss me with this “you attach Finn’s value to his attachment to white characters” bullshit. Finn is a lead in his own right, and as a lead, he has to be connected to white characters. Rey is white and there’s nothing we can do about it (no disrespect to Daisy Ridley). To say Finn’s relationships to white characters devalues him is to say he should be segregated away from Rey and Luke and Kylo. Which would make him a side character. It’s a shitty argument.