Talking up a storm about Adora and Catra (link to Mastodon thread) only confirms my initial impression that Catradora is Finn/Slip if they had been a lot closer and Slip had lived (there’s also a lot of Nines and Zeroes in Catra, too). Despite what some random anti-anti yelled at me before blocking me (wtf?), Catradora isn’t about one of them abusing the other but rather about two victims who were torn apart by favoritism, fell into an unhealthy but stable dynamic as a result, and are still dealing with the fallout.
Hey, so just a warning, insaneblackboy, who’s gone from Tumblr as of the time I’m writing this, was up to some…really not cool things. Harassment, grooming of an underage blogger, threats. I don’t like to be the one to talk about this, and black fans in the SW fandom have it bad enough, but I don’t want anyone getting hurt or scarred over this kind of stuff. As much as I shit on Tumblr, and will continue to, it’s supposed to be a safe place for everyone.
So listen, if you’re an older blogger and you have kids on following you on your Tumblr, please, take care of them and try to keep them safe from an online world that undoubtedly will tell and show them things it shouldn’t, and most importantly, just be a friend to them.
I’m glad he’s taking a breather, and I really hope he works on his issues and comes to understand that what he did was wrong. Let’s try and make fandom safe for everyone, especially kids. Let’s speak out when something’s up, and listen when people come forward. Thank you so much @themandalorianwolf for taking lead on this.
Listen, first things first about befriending people, online or IRL, don’t let them prey on you or manipulate you. Not everyone on online is someone you wanting to trust, especially in fandoms. Things like grooming, harassment, death threats, and everything in between is just an awful thing and if you’re a minor in this site, please be wary of who you trust.
I agree it’s a good idea to be selective about trust, but predation and manipulation aren’t about “letting” someone do it to you. Very often one’s ability to be skeptical, to set boundaries, and to leave are systematically dismantled until it takes a lot of strength and perspective to be able to bust out. It’s particularly hard for minors when dealing with someone older.
I’d say if something in a relationship feels wrong to you it’s a good idea to talk to someone trustworthy and compassionate. Unfortunately predators very often instill shame and guilt in their victims, making it hard to speak out. For that reason I think it’s important for communities to put out warnings, public and private, about who has been proven untrustworthy so that people, especially minors, know who to stay away from. It’s much easier to steer clear of potentially toxic situations than to try to get out of one.
That doesn’t mean the predatory person has to like die or be shunned forever or anything. I believe in personal growth and people learning to be better. They can work on themselves away from minors and anyone else who could be vulnerable, however, something they would accept if they’re truly sorry. It takes a lot of hard work to change one’s values, which are at the heart of abusive behavior. I would far prefer someone who has preyed on people to suffer social seclusion than to gamble a minor’s well-being on the chance of the wrongdoer being all better now.
A few days back I read this science fiction story by a famous author where
the time-traveling protagonist, who must have been at least forty at the
time (it’s mentioned he was married to his wife for 23 years), married a
sixteen year old girl in third-century Eastern Europe who later died in
childbirth. When a 24th-century female doctor called the girl a child and said he should have left her alone,
he made excuses that the girl was a woman by the standards of her time
and most of history, like NICE TO KNOW YOU USED THE HISTORY LOOPHOLE TO
FUCK A TEENAGER DUDE.
Oh, and he cites his and his wife’s
liberal late-twentieth-century sexual mores as a reason why his wife is
totally cool with it. (It looked to me and my husband like the protagonist’s wife was totally cool
with having a husband who was away most of the time, leaving her free to
pursue her own passions without worrying about a living. Who cares if
he’s fucking girls on the side who were initially too young to even get
pregnant.) Like?? Being sexually liberal means condoning pedophilia?? I
wanted to punch him through the page.
Did I mention the
abovementioned doctor totally lets it slide and everyone else at his
work bends over backward to coddle the pedophile’s hurt fee-fees? My
eyes were rolling out of my head. Like, when he mentioned later that his
third-century granddaughter with the girl–or was it great-granddaughter–looked just like her, I was so fucking scared for a moment that he
was going to fuck the granddaughter too. The so-called canons of science fiction fucking suck, man.
After going HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT HOLY at the conclusion of Chapter 3, I’m starting a new thread because the first one was getting too long. Damn, the author is not pulling any punches. Everything in the notes can contain spoilers, so be sure to filter ’#broken earth spoilers’ if you haven’t already!
So I’m pretty sure Syenite is Essun from her time in the Fulcrum, roughly 20 years ago. Either that or Sy is a different character who matches Essun’s description almost exactly, both of them tall mixed women disparaged as “midlatter mongrel.” If they are the same character then I wonder at the fact that Essun is described as having only 2 children, since she comes across as pretty fertile and would have been even more so in her 20s. Either she ran before she was forced to have children, meaning she would have been on the run for 20 years (impressive!), or the implication is that Essun had 2 children but had also given birth in her former life as Syenite. I doubt orogenes in the Fulcrum really have an opportunity to bond with their children, to say nothing of the unhappy ways said children were conceived, so I wouldn’t be surprised if Essun counts only Nassun and Uche, whom she had willingly–more or less, she did mention not wanting children and I doubt any choice was perfect in the life she led–and whom she bonded with, as her children even if Syenite had given birth. Essun also thinks of herself as a different person than who she was before, whether that’s Syenite or someone else, making the break even cleaner.
I’m here blogging partly because Syenite’s scene with the ten-ringer is so uncomfortable and I needed a breather. (I wonder if he’s the earth-breaker from the opening? He certainly has the power level and the seething hatred from a lifetime, no GENERATIONS, of abuse.) The lives of Fulcrum orogenes is such a parade of horrors, my god.
“None of them looked like survival fetishists or would-be warlords.” Nice shade on post-apocalyptical clichés there 😂 I like the widespread in-world acknowledgment from a setting well-versed in apocalypse–literally, they have a whole manual–that the rational thing to do in catastrophe is to band together in well-ordered communities.
So if Damaya -> Syenite -> Essun, Schaffa has given some heavy foreshadowing of her life as Essun. Also the methods the Fulcrum use to start breaking the orogenes is all SORTS of skin-crawlingly awful but the worst may be the equation of brutality with love. That pretense may fall away eventually, but to imprint that lesson in the wet clay of a child’s mind, a child whose old ties were ripped apart and is reaching out for love like a young plant yearning for the sun… The dysfunction and trauma are baked right into the Fulcrum’s methods from the start.
God fucking cannot can someone get their ip and fucking report them because their child is in serious danger. In not even kidding. Someone get this persons ip and get them arrested. Now.
QUIT LIKING MY POST AND FUCKING REBLOG IT I DONT CARE WHAT THE HELL YOUR THEME IS OR WHO YOU ARE
OUMA HIMSELF COULD REBLOG THIS AND I WOULD GIVE LESS THAN A SHIT. THIS ISNT ABOUT ANY KIND OF DISCOURSE ANYMORE. THIS IS ABOUT THE SURVIVAL OF A GODDAMN CHILD. I DONT CARE WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO TO GET THIS PERSON ARRESTED. IF TOU GIVE THEM AN IP GRABBER AND TELL ME THE IP YOU BETTER BET YOUR BITCH ASS I WILL REPORT THEM. I DONT CARE HOW, JUST SAVE THIS CHILD. STOP LIKING, STOP SCROLLING PAST, RE-FUCKING-BLOG BECAUSE A CHILDS LIFE IS ON THE LINE. SPREAD THIS SHIT LIKE ITS THE NEXT FUCKING PLAGUE. I HAVE NEVER BEEN MORE SERIOUS IN MY ENTIRE LIFE. THIS IS URGENT.
Might aswell add this on since this dumbass was dumb enough to let us see who they follow
The ones with scribbles over them have porn as their pfp. Anyways here’s awhile bunch of CP blogs to report to the FBI! Pervegan is back as Pervegan2 btw
don’t report to staff, staff will delete the evidence. report to the FBI or cybertip.
The closest analogy I can think of to Kylo Ren and Rey’s Force connection is not a romantic relationship. I was lucky enough to have a close, fulfilling friendship that became a romance, a relationship where I was and am free to share only things I want to share, opening up at my own pace. I share a lot about myself with my partner because we are very close and talk a lot, but there are still things I choose not to share, sometimes because I’m not sure how to phrase these things myself. There are also things that I just don’t want to tell anyone, and also things I share with other people than my partner because they are not of interest to him and I have other people to share them with. That’s how disclosure works in healthy relationships, by choice.
I know there’s this idea that romance is this all-consuming thing where your entire self is subsumed to a greater force and you have to share absolutely everything, against your will if need be. Anything less is thought to be withholding and inocomplete. I reject that; I know the early infatuation phase of a romantic relationship can feel like that, but it’s not sustainable in the long term. I mean literally, it’s not biochemically sustainable because the brain chemistry that produces that kind of romantic high lasts two, three years at best. Even more problematically, this conception of romance that rejects boundaries sets relationships up for failure. It sets up an unrealistic expectation of romance that leads to disappointment and resentment.
I think this conception of romance as an irresistible oneness that blows away all boundaries is where some people get the idea that friendship and romance are incompatible and that Finn can’t be Rey’s romantic partner if he is her friend. Friendship, after all, is about being two people with boundaries consensually negotiated between them. If you accept that a romance–at least a healthy one–is also about being two separate people with boundaries, the dichotomy disappears.
I have in my life experienced something like the unwilling bond between Kylo Ren and Rey, and not only was it not romantic because it was with a family member, it was not positive in any way. I have known what it’s like to be told my boundaries are not acceptable and that I must share my secrets and feelings. The specific leverage used was our family relationship and guilt rather than the Force, but these powerful ties from an unequal relationship left me feeling as helpless as if I had been tied up, unable to walk out of the room or put down the phone, fearing retribution if I did. I feared being called selfish, unloving, ungrateful, and cold as I had been called countless times since I was a child. I feared that any disapproval meant I was unlovable. These fears were as effective as physical bonds on me, keeping me in the chair while I was needled and pried at, keeping my ear to the phone and my finger away from the “off” button.
In many of these conversations I didn’t want to talk for so many different reasons, but my reasons are always brushed aside. Tell me about your boyfriend. No, because you made it clear you don’t like him, and I don’t want to get into another shouting match. Tell me about your career prospects. No, because you’re just going to pressure me into doing what you want. Tell me what you want to do in life. No, because you’re going to use it against me to tell me how unrealistic and naïve I am, and how that means I have to listen to you. Tell me about your political views. No, because you’ll just make it another indictment against me. Tell me what I’ve done that you hardly want to talk to me anymore? Please? You’re hurting me so much. I’ve been telling you for twenty years, and you have dismissed everything I said. I don’t want to talk about it anymore. Let’s finish this conversation. We’ve already been talking for an hour and I have things to do. You’re so ungrateful. Selfish. Cold. You’re making my anxiety and trauma worse, and no I won’t seek treatment because I don’t need treatment, I just need you to do as I say so I can stop being so fearful. Everything I do is for you, why won’t you see that?
I don’t accept this kind of prying invasion, this coerced intimacy, as love–romantic, familial, or otherwise. It is a form of exploitation that wears a person down to be made the more easily into a hollowed-out puppet. Feelings of love, to the extent they are involved, are just another strand–a powerful one–to make the binding the tighter. It’s my abuser’s actual argument that these bonds, the way I’ve been forced to share myself over the years, is a real and healthy love. It’s his argument that I’m responsible for saving and healing him by ignoring all the ways I’ve been hurt and changing my life to suit his need for control. I don’t accept that, not anymore, and I have fought for decades of my life to reject that logic.
Being made to share your deepest self against your will is not romantic or healthy in any way. A healthy relationship has boundaries and the choice to share or not share. It is choice that makes disclosure powerful and intimate in its risk and vulnerability, like Finn’s confession to Rey, like the message Rey left with Chewbacca for Finn. Without choice the act of disclosure becomes humiliating and exploitative. It is the farthest thing I can imagine from romance.
My problem is that in going there, people have to ignore a LOT of what actually happened between the characters. I can think of much better analogies, like the forced intimacy of being made to share your feelings and secrets with someone who’s always looking to use them to control you and get at you. This is something I go through in a real life relationship that is extremely difficult to let go of, where I’m trying, so painfully and slowly, to set some minimal boundaries–something that the other person guilts ME over and calls ME cruel, abusive, and ungrateful for. I envy Rey’s ability to sever the connection in an instant and to feel nothing for the man who tried to break her down and mold her to his own ends, because for me it’s a decades-long process, not days or moments.
So yeah, I get some kind of feels when this shit gets put in a positive light. Reylows romanticize my most painful experiences and the manipulative tactics that scarred me for a lifetime. They validate my abuser’s own rhetoric, that he is a tortured soul who I am responsible for fixing by shaping my entire life around pleasing him, and I don’t like that and I speak against it. Fuck me, since that makes me a mean puritanical abusive harassing anti.