And anyway, when you *know* how damaging r*ylo is to fans of color, especially black fans, you don’t get to be petty about your answers. Admit it one way or the other that you ship it instead of playing both sides.

Both sides, like I even could 😂 like reylows are ever going to give me the time of day after I exposed their pathetic asses again and again? I answered already in great and truthful detail, and any more demands for an answer will be deleted as the annoyances they are.

Also, that person simply asked about shipping r*ylo. They didn’t ask about the multiple definitions of shipping. You knew what they meant when they asked it. If you were defensive about it, then you simply shouldn’t have replied instead of being petty.

I answered fully and completely, according to the multiple definitions that do in fact exist. Demanding a yes or no answer to a question that has multiple meanings, and not only refusing to clarify but getting testy at me for clarifying is really disingenuous and, frankly, a bullying tactic.

Also, did you say that people are free to explore rape and abuse and we shouldn’t say anything against it? What the fuck is wrong with you. I don’t have a narrow sense of the world, you just don’t care about the horrors of rape and abuse and justify rape apologism

So people shouldn’t write about rape ever, including to show how traumatic and awful it is? Of course these works can be criticized, like Lolita has been criticized for confusing framing. But if by speak against you mean criticizing the very creation of works featuring pedophilia and rape? Then yeah, you’re drinking the crazy juice hard there my friend. Rape and abuse are parts of the human experience and should be explored through art, provided warnings are given so people are not exposed unawares. A work can be criticized for how well and responsibly it treats the subject, but to say these sensitive subjects can’t be written about or explored? That’s not a rational position and it’s actively harmful.

My categories are to rigid but looking woke ™ is cool, great 😂 I’d rather not write 400 things about how shitty reylo is and then be “exploring” a ship based on canon abuse and r/ape parallels but okay I guess i’m weird lmao. Bye I won’t keep arguing with a hypocrite ✌️

So you do think anyone who makes content featuring anything bad is automatically endorsing that bad thing lmaooo bye won’t be missing you 😂

I don’t think its nice to be so arrogant in your tags when people are just asking you about shipping reylo, there are some of us who are uncomfortable with following a reylo and we would like to know where you stand

I have said where I stand. Many many times. Go read any one of those posts if you really want to know. I mean do you consider someone who hates the whole idea of reylo and really fucking hates that section of fandom to be a reylo? If someone who dislikes reylo so much and calls them out regularly is an anti, then I’m an anti. Am I both?

Or, like, consider a third possibility: maybe you can both dislike a thing deeply and explore those feelings of dislike and distaste through fanworks. By your logic, anyone who writes about rape is a rape apologist and anyone who writes about abuse is an abuse apologist. If your thinking is that simplistic and out of touch with reality then yeah, you shouldn’t follow me.

By even considering reylo you are doing what you claim to be against, I’m sorry but seeing someone so loud about being an anti and then it appears they ship reylo even if its aus or whatever makes me wary and wonder when are you genuine about repulsed by reylo fandom’s bullshit or just want to cater to the anti community

What did I claim to be against? I have never, not once, said people should not ship reylo. I have repeatedly said people can ship what they want. I have spoken against erasing and demonizing Finn. I have spoken against whitewashing, I’ve spoken against woobifying a villain, I have spoken against abuse apologism and war crimes apologism. If you think I have done any of these things I have been against, you’ll have to explain how.

If you don’t think I’m genuine in being repulsed by the crap thay goes on in reylow fandom then nothing I say can convince you. I don’t say this to blame you, you probably have good reason to be wary and I’m certainly not automatically entitled to anyone’s trust. I mean, just literally, I can’t say anything to convince you. There’s nothing I can say in one post that would outweigh what I’ve said in the three previous asks I’ve gotten on the subject, to say nothing of 2.5 years of fandom blogging.

If you think anyone who even entertains thoughts of reylo (even in disgust) or creates reylo content (even ones critical of the whole idea) is not worth your trust, then you should by no means trust me. And again, you must have your reasons for that, so listen to yourself. Trying to make yourself trust someone you have already lost faith in is not fair to you, and repeatedly demanding proof beyond the honest answers I’ve already given is not fair to me.

By saying “what is shipping anyways” it seems like you’re trying to avoid the question. The fact that you have headcanons and have thought about the possible outcomes of it all is pretty telling. If you ship it just say it so we can know who we can and can’t trust. Don’t try to excuse yourself.

It’s not like there was an entire elucidation of the different meanings of shipping right below, right? I have said exactly where I stand on each of those senses, so if anything it was the opposite of an evasion. If you can see me say I would abandon SW if reylow became canon, that I think it’s abusive and toxic, that their bs widdle woobie Ben Solo only exists to erase Finn, if you’ve seen me rail against reylows’ abuse apologism, war crimes apologism, misogyny, and racism for close to three years now and you still can’t trust me–then you won’t trust me no matter what. Simple as that.

So you ship rey/lo then?

What even is the meaning of shipping? There are actually multiple meanings.

Canonshipping as endgame? Hell to the nooooo. As I have said multiple times, if that happens SW is dead to me.

Fanshipping? Only in the sense I think it’s a horrible abusive dynamic, and not even the most interesting I’ve seen tbh. Also the fan community for reylow is horrible and I’m not going near it.

Hateshipping might be an applicable term, as in I totally hate the idea and examining why can be interesting.

Crackshipping, kinda. I think that’s what it is at heart anyway. My Blurred Lines video is all kinds of (disturbing, horrible) crack.

Cope shipping might actually apply, since I experienced the kinds of isolation and gaslighting tactics Kylo used on Rey. Definitely not in the sense that I’m going to pretend it’s healthy and that shitty treatment equals love. I told that lie to myself for too long, and it almost destroyed my life. I’m definitely not going to tell that lie to others.