reylos: “People will say Kylo is representative of the alt-right all day long but absolutely refuse to acknowledge Poe as a commentary on problematic leftist dudes”

Unpopular opinion: Kylo IS that problematic leftist dude. Don’t get me wrong, he is representative of the alt-right, but one of the powerful and frightening things about fascism is that it cuts across traditional ideological boundaries to unite the left and right. I see a clear parallel between Kylo Ren being Han and Leia’s son, and the fact that a LOT of prominent alt-right figures in real life (including that shithead who stabbed his own father to death) are the children of liberals and used to be liberals themselves.

I mean what happens when you tell a whole generation of children that they are good and special people destined to save the world, but they never learn to scrutinize the structures of oppression their world is built on? Every attempt by one of the people they step on to get out from underfoot shakes their footing and becomes a personal threat. They are special people and cannot be treated this way, they are good people and will not be attacked like this. The belief that they are fundamentally special and good becomes warped into a sense of aggrieved entitlement and, in some cases, they become radicalized. Kylo Ren’s story is the story of the inevitable failure of white liberalism.

Recommend any good SW viewing orders to get ready for IX? I’m doing (IV, V, I, II, III, R1, VI, VII, VIII), where there’s a 4 movie long prequel flashback between V & VI. There’s also Chronological Order (I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII), Release Order (IV, V, VI, I, II, III, VII, VIII), Alternating Order (I-IV-VII, II-V-VIII, III-VI-IX), and Flashback Order (VII, IV, V, I, II, III, VI, VIII), among others.

I like that first sequence you mentioned. On suggested variation is to watch R1 first ahead of IV. Chronological order makes sense, too, as does release order.

Re: Padmé. She does very little post-TPM to end that separations. It’s entirely superficial and ceremonial, such as naming Jar Jar as her aide. As shown in TCW and Aftermath gungans still largely live separate from the Naboo human populace, and when they do live among humans it is usually in poverty. As for Padmé being pro peace again it is only her version of peace that matters, not to mention she’s unwilling to walk her talk and do something about the parts of the Republic 1

that made the CIS planets secede in the first place. Most tend
to forget that a large number of planets turned against the Republic
because the Republic had been exploiting them for centuries and giving
nothing in return. They had been leached of resources, yet offered
nothing of the wealth they created for the Core planets. That was a
system Padmé was never willing to touch. Again, Padmé’s kind of peace is
the one who benefits only her and her own, not everyone. She’s you
typical white liberal.


Yeah, there’s a reason people say peace without justice is no peace at all. I believe Padmé always meant well, but she wasn’t willing to examine how incomplete and flawed her perspective was from her own place of privilege. In this she is much like white liberals in our world.

Do you have any fave Star Wars fics that you are reading at the moment? Or fave authors?

I liked @awakening5‘s A New Order (link) and @the-bi-writer‘s There Is No Redemption Here (link). They’re on opposite ends of the ST timeline, with ANO being a vision of a possible Episode IX while TINRH is a timeline fork just before TFA. They’re both Finnrey fics, with ANO featuring a sweet slow burn and TINRH lots of steamy action (but SFW versions of chapters are also offered). Both fics also feature Force-sensitive Finn, and shows Finn growing into his powers. There are probably tons more, but I haven’t been reading a lot of fics recently.

Korean-Chinese Bellatrix would have been amazing. I imagine pureblood families would have to be interracial, holding the purity of magical birth over the purity of ethnicity. Prejudice so deep it swallows all others. Meanwhile, those who don’t care about magical blood stay racially homogeneous due to their biases not being crowded out by open hatred, showing even ‘unbigoted’ people can have prejudices.

I wonder if wizards would care about the Muggle concept of race at all? It would be interesting if ideological purebloods replaced one bigotry for another, as you posit.

I didn’t even notice the connection to toxic masculinity. It fits so well. He’s elderly, but his body is 60 (the equivalent of thirty for his species— old enough to be a man and not a youth, but young enough to be in prime physical condition.) He craves power and domination (and he’s already an emperor) and has a magic ring he can secretly hurt people with to stop them from finishing their sentences.

So part of his power is literally interrupting people? Embodiment of toxic masculinity confirmed 😂

Are you into any of the Legends Star Wars stuff? You mentioned the apprentice being a worse person than the master being a cool concept. You should check out the Darth Plagueis novel. Sidious was a fucking monster even as a teenager and while Plagueis is a bastard himself, I bet you’d end up liking him more than Palpatine

I only knew of Plagueis as a meme 😂 It looks like history repeated itself with Kylo & Snoke.

I’m a demiromantic but I’ve only ever had one (1) person be romantically attracted to me and we knew each other for less than week so yeah don’t know how that’s going to work out because usually by the time I realize I’ve fallen for someone I’ve already embarrassed myself and gotten myself friendzoned, which my dumb self never realizes and I end up digging my grave deeper and alienating them for good

Aww, that sounds very hard. 😦 It looks like better social interaction skills would be key for you to have romantic relationships in the future. It gets better with time and practice!