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I don’t remember ever meeting a male Reylo, unless it was one who just thought Rey and Kylo were going to get together because Finnrey has no basis in canon and Reylo was telegraphed (that’s exactly backwards.) …Imagining a man who actually SHIPS Reylo, is INVESTED in Reylo, is terrifying to me.

I have heard stories of male reylows and seen comments that appear to be by male reylows, and none of it is good. There’s the story of going on a blind date with a guy who shipped reylow because he said it made more sense. He also believed, mystifyingly, that Finn and Rey couldn’t have children–or at least the right kind of children, I imagine (link). I’ve also seen comments by what appear to be anti-Finnrey and anti-Finn racist dudes appear below Finnrey fan videos, at least one of them pro Reylow (link, see comments by user Mike Scanlan. Racism and antisemitism at link). So yeah, all reylows can stay far away from me but male reylows in particular need to get several galaxies away.

my brother thinks it would have been hilarious in the middle of the clone wars if they’d just straight up killed anakin off and kept going. the fans would be confused and be like “i guess this show is an au?” but lucasfilm would be like “no it’s canon this takes place before revenge of the sith” and refused to explain how that worked and there would be absolutely no continuity the clone wars would just be a frickin train wreck and it’d just steamroll right through without any clues as to how it lined up with rots or the original trilogy but somehow being 100% canon anyway while the fans went nuts

and now i think i know why he likes the last jedi

Just gonna throw this out there, I didn’t see anything super off kilter about JF’s words. I totally agree that in a larger context it’s important to acknowledge that it wasn’t a healthy relationship & she cut him off, but I think it’s a totally fair point to say that ppl reach for an analogue like a romantic relationship b/c we can’t fully know the experience they are having b/c we don’t have the Force. Not that it’s super accurate, even he said that, just that there’s a reason people go there

My problem is that in going there, people have to ignore a LOT of what actually happened between the characters. I can think of much better analogies, like the forced intimacy of being made to share your feelings and secrets with someone who’s always looking to use them to control you and get at you. This is something I go through in a real life relationship that is extremely difficult to let go of, where I’m trying, so painfully and slowly, to set some minimal boundaries–something that the other person guilts ME over and calls ME cruel, abusive, and ungrateful for. I envy Rey’s ability to sever the connection in an instant and to feel nothing for the man who tried to break her down and mold her to his own ends, because for me it’s a decades-long process, not days or moments.

So yeah, I get some kind of feels when this shit gets put in a positive light. Reylows romanticize my most painful experiences and the manipulative tactics that scarred me for a lifetime. They validate my abuser’s own rhetoric, that he is a tortured soul who I am responsible for fixing by shaping my entire life around pleasing him, and I don’t like that and I speak against it. Fuck me, since that makes me a mean puritanical abusive harassing anti.

Finnrey played out albeit not on screen in the canon book Rebel Rising where Jyn for a boy named Hadder who was coded as black. So along with Lost Stars, that’s good enough for tie-in material but not for the big screen.

Forgot to mention: Jyn and Hadder canonically lost their
virginity to each other so yeah. Really not happy with LF’s bullshit
with Finnrey rn.

I think it’s the nature of movies as a visual and commercial medium and how racism and white male entitlement interact with it. The way Denzel Washington put it, as remembered by Virtuosity co-star Kelly Lynch: “[W]hite men bring women to movies, and they don’t want to watch a black man with their woman.” Comics and novels, though they are still heavily racist, are generally enjoyed alone. They’re not tied into dating rituals for most people, and though comics are a visual medium they are not as immediate as the big screen. Big franchises like SW can change the range of what’s possible, though, and I really hope Disney/LF will break this barrier.

Also while I’m glad there are more interracial relationships and other representation in the tie-ins, Jyn/Hadder doesn’t sound that great from the Wookieepedia description and it’s certainly not what I want Finnrey to be. Hadder gave up his chance to fly with the Rebellion so he could be with Jyn, and then the story had him blown up so she could feel bad. This brings me right back to the time I quit watching The 100 over its treatment of Wells (link). Fridging Black boys for white girls’ stories is not progressive, it’s just a tired reiteration of a racist cliché.

Not that I’m doubting but is there a source other than CNN for that story about boring plaid guy? CNN has proven itself untrustworthy, and it’s not just because Trump says it is. (Anyone remember when they blackmailed a Reddit user? Yikes.) I usually roll my eyes at “Trump is a Nazi” stuff, but if this is legit, that’s some scary stuff and we should do something.

Hey no hate it’s not bad as plaid goes 😂 The story was on the kid’s say-so and frankly if he’d meant to make something up it would have been a lot more dramatic. So I don’t find it totally unbelievable even if CNN could have done better. Probably the best practice would have been to contact the Secret Service for comment, even if the result would probably have been “no comment.”

Chill. I was just asking a clarifying question. I WAS under the impression trans people were using SJW logic to guilt people into dating them, but I have no illusions about anyone, trans or otherwise, being desperate enough to date me that they would use manipulative tactics. You’ve made your point and I see where I was mistaken. I wasn’t trying to make trans people feel unsafe or anything of the kind.

It may not have been your conscious goal, but that is the effect. This is the kind of rhetoric terfs use to attack people. They did it to me, calling me a rape apologist who wanted lesbians to be raped by trans women (who they don’t see as women, of course), and I shudder to think what they do to trans women if they’d treat a cis person this way. That second part was addressing a larger problem which is why I didn’t put it in my answer to you but in a reblog–it wasn’t just about you, but about the discussion of transphobia in dating in general and how it is weaponized. I thought of making a new post for that reason but trans people’s voices should be centered in this discussion and I didn’t want to go into the whole context from scratch. If you’re more mindful of how this rhetoric is used to attack trans people and make them unsafe, that’s a good thing.

I’m very confused about what’s wrong with a person not wanting to date a trans person because they have different parts. Is it wrong if a penis or a vagina is a must for some people’s sexual partner? I wouldn’t call someone skinnyphobic if they only wanted to date plus sized-people, or think it’s wrong if armpit hair or a lack thereof is a turnoff. Even people who don’t like dating outside their race… I mean, that’s messed up, but what are you going to do, force them?

There’s nothing wrong with not dating a trans person, which might be motivated by transphobia but is completely your prerogative. What’s wrong is generalizing about trans people. Trans people of the same gender don’t all have the same “parts,” for one thing. If you’re so prejudiced against trans people please don’t date any trans person ever, they don’t want you. What’s wrong is your transphobia, not the fact that you won’t date them.

Could I ask how TLJ is more racist than the prequels? I always thought they were both equals in their racism, just TLJ’s brand is more obvious and overt.

*obvious and overt to not just people of color but also white people

The prequels used a lot of racist tropes and caricatures, but generally on non-human characters. While that doesn’t make it okay, it did make the racism less obvious and overt, like you said. The prequels’ vanishingly few characters of color weren’t treated like racist caricatures, for all fandom turns Windu into one. TLJ was racist against human characters of color, which to me seems worse.