“But there were flashbacks in TFA!” Wrong, that was a Force vision and a cryptic one at that that wasn’t expositional. But the fandom’s been obsessed with flashbacks since the sequel trilogy was announced, before TFA even came out. Of course Rian didn’t see a problem with them. He’s from THAT part of the fandom.

Yeah, Luke had a Force vision in ESB and it was pretty much the same thing with Rey. Except the movies never bothered to make any sense of them smh.

I gave a look on fandomshatepeopleofcolor and there’s anons saying that Finn fans are being anti asian to Rose and I never saw it happening.

I haven’t personally seen it either. The Finn fans I interact with were excited about Rose prior to TLJ and disappointed with her portrayal after TLJ hit. I think at least some of the assertion that Finn fans are being anti-Asian is due to the latter part, with the criticism of Rose’s character being interpreted as racism. I know I got my share of shit for saying Rose’s treatment of Finn was wrong. Similarly, a number of Asian fans including @leg-grestrade, @xingli, and @to-break-the-stalemate (who is Vietnamese) were outspoken about how horrible RJ’s writing of Rose was.

I don’t rule out Finn fans being racist against Rose, of course, and I know at least one reylow shipper received an anon saying Rose is a downgrade from Rey and isn’t even a good-looking Asian. (Like come fucking come say that to my face, anon.) And of course, Loan Tran quit social media over the racist and misogynistic harassment she received. Anti-Asian racism is a definite problem across fandoms. What I find suspect is the claim that this vitriol is confined to one section of the fandom. That smacks of both minimization and an attempt to use Loan’s actual suffering for an agenda.

Aren’t you married? Why would you bash marriage? I don’t get it. Marriage is awesome and doesn’t make a woman any less of a person. That’s true for romance in general, really, and parenthood. (Obviously, some people don’t make good parents, and some people don’t make good partners, but I still don’t understand how a good woman can be lost to marriage, since, again, marriage shouldn’t make a woman any less good.)

The fact that I, you, or people you know have a good marriage doesn’t change the fact that heterosexual marriage as an institution has been hugely destructive to women and has been used to undermine our personhood.

I think you’re misunderstanding the phrase “Good women have been lost to marriage” as meaning “marriage makes women less worthy/good.” Why do you think the comparison is to war, famine, disease, and disaster? None of those misfortunes make a woman less worthy, but they do harm, traumatize, and kill her as though she is worth nothing. Marriage does the same for far too many women. I’d eat my keyboard before I deny the experiences of those women just because they don’t match my own.

Besides, my own marriage very much goes against patriarchal norms and that’s a big reason it works for us (link). Marriage can be improved and made more humane, but that won’t happen by denying its problems.

there’s several rylo fanfic where Rey is a minor (16) and Kylo is her teacher. They put tag like “Rey and Ben Are Both Into It” as if it’s an excuse to pedophilia

Obviously if the teenager sees the relationship as a source of love, acceptance, and power, she’s going to be “into” it. And it leaves her messed up later on, because she’s been encouraged to think it was consensual. That’s the whole point of grooming. Everyone please, please, PLEASE read the essay Fiction, Reality, Fandom and Adulthood: a media academic and CSA/incest victim’s account (link, thanks @theautisticjedi for bringing it to my attention) to see what fandom’s rampant excuses for child sexual abuse do to kids trapped in or recovering from that situation.

I saw a post that said Reylos were like straight white males looking for reasons to be oppressed. I think Reylos might actually be worse. But that racist anon you got was BOTH. That’s just way too much stupid in one person. I don’t think I could handle meeting someone like that.

Remember “reylophobia?” And how they compare criticizing their ship to homophobia, ableism, and a bunch of other stuff? Remember how a number of them actually cry about reverse racism? Yeah.

Idk if the reylow anon and the “how dare you want racists to die” anon were the same person, but the timing and tone certainly suggest that conclusion.

I’m waiting for a great Star Wars movie or video game to get me back into the franchise but between The Last Jedi and Solo a massive blow has been dealt to the franchise that it can’t heal from, I wasn’t the biggest fan of The Force Awakens or Rogue One either, Rian Johnson and the Game of Thrones guys are still both going to get entire trilogies sometime in the future, and as much as I love Finn, Rey and Poe, I honestly wish that the sequel trilogy never existed because the damage is done.

I can understand why you would feel that way, though I would not have cared so much about SW in the first place if not for Finn, Rey, and Poe. Unless Episode IX is at least decent, though, I don’t see the point anymore.

Put Syaoran Li in the “characters who hates reylos” list too! Syaoran was a 9 years old chinese kid in CardCaptor Sakura and felt in love for Sakura. Syaoran is important for be the only chinese of the manga, somehow Reylos think Syaoran&Sakura is like their ship. although I know CLAMP is veeeery problematic (anti chinese, incest/pedo etc), Reylos comparing their ship to asian character kids is wrong in so many levels (also so that mean they think Kylo act like a 10 years old when he is 30? ok)

I think their angle is that Syaoran is an initially antagonistic character who believes he was entitled to the cards, not Sakura. And here’s where reylows’ obliviousness really shows, that they think Kylo Ren is simply Rey’s rival and a bluntly spoken loner. You have to close your eyes to a whoooole lot of what happened in the movies to make that comparison.