I’ve watched Black Panther too! And one criticism I’d read about it before I saw the movie myself was the movie lacked enough action scenes. I’m big enough a MCU fan to remember Iron Man (still considered by majority the best of all the MCU films) had only 20 minutes total of action scenes in it. I’d thought “oh does Black Panther even have less than 20 min?” But (i doubt i’m spoiling anything here) NO, there’s plenty of action! Were these critics expecting a fight to break out every 5 minutes??

I mean so many of the criticisms I’ve seen of this movie are ridiculous. That’s not to say there are no criticisms to be made and I’ve a few myself, some minor, others more serious, but not enough action scenes? That’s completely baseless. There are so many thrilling, well-designed, high-stakes fight scenes from beginning to end, in all kinds of settings and with a wide range of weaponry and technology. Did these people see the same movie I did?

Omg that racist af op clearly doesn’t know anything about Black Panther (except whatever racist misinformation they must’ve gleaned from fellow basement-dwelling racists), I’ve watched Black Panther myself too and reading every sentence that racist fuck wrote, I went “no it’s not. no he doesn’t. no… no…” like they’re so wrong, it’s ridiculous! (I’m from a multi-ethnic SE Asian country btw and op reminds me of white tourists who mistake us for 1 ‘asian’ race just cuz none of us are white 🤬)

It was so clear he was going off uninformed preconceptions without even a glance at the background material, much less having seen the movie, it was embarrassing to see. And obviously you can’t be multiethnic without white people 😂 ignorant fuck doesn’t even know the difference between race and ethnicity.

Also, the very term “ethnostate” is one coined and used by white nationalists. The fact that the op a) uses that term and b) applies it to an African country where the context is entirely different tells you all you need to know about him. I would block adastraperabsurdia, the op of this post, to avoid seeing his nonsense in the bp and blm tags and whatever other tag he decides to go into next to spout his foolishness.

Hey, you’ve written some of the best anti-Reylo metas I’ve ever read on this site, so I was wondering if you could explain… what’s with Tumblr’s blind-spot for Uncle Iroh? Like, he’s responsible for hundreds if not thousands of deaths, as one of the leading generals of a barely-coded Imperial Japan. And… the show didn’t really even do a redemption arc for him? They just kinda treat him as a moral authority from Day 1?

Thanks anon! That’s what I aspire to be, the best anti Reylo. Idk, doesn’t Iroh have a redemption arc in the show? At the end of Book1 he tried to save the Moon Spirit. At the end of Book 2 he gave up his freedom so a wounded (actually dead, it turns out) Aang and Katara could escape. If Aang and Katara had been captured, Aang would not have been revived and the Avatar Cycle could have ended with him. At the end of Book 3 Iroh helped liberate Ba Sing Se from Fire Nation occupation, atoning in some small measure for the death and destruction he brought to that city.

I think the point of Iroh’s character is that people can change and grow, even later in life. It doesn’t mean the harm Iroh did goes away, or that the things he did during the war were okay. If he’s a moral authority it’s in the sense that he is a wise man who knows right from wrong, in part from having done wrong in the past himself. He worked to set things right, but the wrongs he did won’t go away. They’re both the truths of the character and I think both extremes in responding to him disregard one of the truths–whether it’s uncritically squeeing about how good he is as though he never did anything wrong, or saying he is forever evil because he once did evil things.

I don’t think “nazi sympathizer” is even good enough a description for kylo stans? They’re not just sympathizing, they’re absolving kylo of all sin, calling him “Ben”, defending him as if he’s a purely good person who’s never done wrong, living in total denial about him being evil, etc. It’s so horrifying and alarming, I feel like not even “nazi sympathizer” can cover it, it’s just so awful. Is there a term for people who believe nazis were living saints? Nazi…. sanctifiers? Genuinely asking.

I don’t feel comfortable making a blanket statement like Ren being a Nazi, in part because I know there are Jewish fans who are uncomfortable with fictional villains with Nazis and see it as trivialization. As with all things there is a diversity of thought here, of course.

One thing I can say with certainty is that it’s absolutely disgusting when Kylo stans start to twist the general rules of human conduct to cover their fave’s ass and make up reasons why he is still a hero, saying for instance the massacre of civilians isn’t wrong, torture is fine, or wiping out entire populations is a justifiable act of war. These are real-world crimes by Nazis and other groups, and only awful people would justify such actions for the sake of a fictional character.

Half of me is like, JJ who’s jewish would never let kylo ren the space nazi have a redemption arc, he prolly only approved RJ’s shitshow bc he saw that kylo’s arc in it was to go from reichsführer to führer, ep ix is safe. Other half of me is like, KK’s not just gonna let her white het romance fantasy die though. Then the first half of me is back like, KK rehired JJ tho. And all of me is now, like, so who actually gave in here, JJ or KK?? I hate that I still have hope, I wish I could abandon SW.

I wouldn’t mind if it were a true redemption, as in the price is comparable with the deed. The only reason Vader’s “redemption” was palatable to the audience was because he paid with his life, but many both in-universe and out don’t think it was enough. Vader was still so hated that the revelation that he was Leia’s biological father derailed her political career (Bloodline), and George Lucas himself said Vader wasn’t redeemed but only stopped the horror. It’s questionable that anyone can truly come back from the depths of the crimes committed by characters like Vader or Ren.

So I’m not sure Ren could be redeemed, but if he did have a true change of heart and survived he would live the rest of his life in unspeakable torment at the things he did and likely in a jail cell. I’d be actually okay with that, though it would have to be a hell of a convincing character arc. But the kind of get-out-of-jail-free card his stans advocate? That’s no longer Star Wars to me and I highly doubt JJ would go that route after explicitly modeling the first crime by Ren we see on screen, the massacre of Tuanul, after the Nazis’ slaughter of Jewish and Romani villages during the Holocaust.

I’m also inclined to think JJ has some leverage in the story he wants to tell, because he really didn’t have a reason to come back unless he was given some level of creative freedom. Disney could have gone with Rain for Episode IX if they were happy with him, which they… really shouldn’t be if they’re able to read numbers. With the mess Solo is likely to be JJ has his work cut out to reestablish the SW brand, especially in major foreign markets like China, and it would make no sense for him not to ask for at least the level of creative control RJ enjoyed.

Anon, your brother is sadly one of many. I’ve come across the alt-right saying very similar stuff online lately. In addition to the usual loud “women and poc are the worst thing about the new Star Wars movies” ranting, there’s now the low-key snide “the new movies are all about women and poc seeking a white man to save them from their own incompetence LMAO” remark. All thanks to TLJ’s horrific subversion of TFA’s narrative. RJ sabotaged JJ’s work instead of fixing it, maybe even intentionally.

RJ giving fuel to alt-right shitholes with his racist and sexist turd of a movie? Who’da thunk it?

I have a racist sexist creep for an older brother (FML) and he said at breakfast today, “I change my mind, the last jedi isn’t actually a feminazi movie. It’s got a secret message. What happens when you let women be in charge and let blacks and mexicans do what they want? They lose and they lose and they lose. And the white girl goes to beg the white men to come back and save them. And the white man whom they call the bad guy isn’t even bad, he’s the true victim of today’s society. Smart.” FML.

Oh, he seems to have Johnson’s authorial intent down pat. “Racist, sexist creep” is an exact description of RJ anyway.

I always come to your blog because I feel like you’re the voice of experience and wisdom when it comes to antireylo thing. So I wanted to ask you what’s your opinion on that video where a reylo asks Rian Johnson about the ship and he says “It’s all movie”. Because it gave me an anxiety attack and I’m really scared it might happen in the next movie.

I’m glad this blog is helpful! Without the specific wording and context it’s hard to judge, so if you could point me toward the video I might be able to make a better judgment. I’m pretty sure Johnson is not allowed to disclose the romantic endgame, though, assuming he even knows how Episode IX is supposed to end, so the answer probably wasn’t a definite or authoritative one.

I highly doubt reylo is going to be canon in any case. Kylo spent two movies hurting, undermining, and trying to use Rey for his own purposes, and Johnson himself said that Kylo was trying to make her insecure. Validating this toxic interaction as a path to a positive romantic relationship would be a terrible, misogynistic story decision. Maybe Johnson is capable of it, idk, but I don’t think JJ Abrams is.