The most I can say for FB2 is if you fixed everything wrong with it it wouldn’t be a completely different film. Then again JK Rowling has shown herself capable of writing good stories, unlike a certain avant-garde director hired to write a Star Wars film.

Rowling’s a better writer for sure, but the more she tries to stay in the public eye the more the flaws in her perception–and even the originals–stand out.

Oh by the way I noticed the post about the missionary was tagged “white savior complex”, and while I would agree it applies in spirit, technically the missionary was not actually white. He was Chinese.

Yeah, his name was John Allen Chau. I think it applies, though, because he bought into the exact same harmful myth. Much like nonwhite people can be white supremacists and white feminists, they can be white saviors as well.

Alright. I’m going to see JK’s travesty.

May you fall honorably.

you are one of the very few people in anti reylo community with some common sense

Depends on what the “community” is. A lot of vastly different people object to the ship/shippers for different reasons and we have a varied range of opinions. Probably the one thing all antis agree on is that they are against the idea of this ship becoming canon. Some are of the opinion that it shouldn’t be shipped even as a fanon/crackship/darkship, which does not describe me or most of the people I know. Some antis dislike shippers’ racist, misogynistic, abuse apologist, war-crimes apologist etc. etc. arguments and content, and I think most of my anti posts are in this vein. Some believe shippers deserve to be harassed and suicide baited, a stance no decent person agrees with. I think the essay Fiction, Reality, Fandom, and Adulthood: a media academic and CSA/incest victim’s account (link; incest, CSA, grooming, self-harm, and abuse warning) perfectly represents my stance on the issue. A quote:

I don’t think it’s too much to ask people to have a degree of responsibility for what they put online, especially in a community so full of young people. That doesn’t mean dictating what people create: it means accepting that you have influence over other people, and if you’re not willing to admit that, maybe that’s why you shouldn’t be posting online.

Imagine if Luke is on his island, blaming himself for Kylo Ren and the disappearance of his daughter, and suddenly this random girl who reminds him too much of himself shows up. He knows he can’t be a teacher to this girl. He already failed his nephew, his daughter. He’ll just fail Rey. But then Rey, angry and hurt, goes into a cave for answers and pleads with the Force to show her her parents and Luke’s face appears. Imagine Luke’s real face when she tells him his daughter is still alive.

I’m not a huge ReySky advocate but that would still have been better than the mess TLJ gave us.

“Your Snoke theory sucks!” Schutta you didn’t even have one you hack moof

Yuuuup

I feel like reylo won’t happen because it won’t be shocking to the audience. Everyone seems to be expecting Kylo to pull off a redemption, to make out with Rey, to get his happy ending. It would be more shocking to them if Kylo didn’t get his undeserved redemption, if Finn, Poe, Rose, or anyone else got with Rey, and if Kylo either simply died or got locked in prison.

We live in a world where white men are given infinite benefits of the doubt, where white mass shooters are taken safely into custody while innocent Black people are shot by police. SW is a franchise that has the precedent of Vader as a war criminal and mass murderer who was “redeemed,” as Kylostans love to remind us. Everyone and their grandmother can see a Kylo Ren redemption coming, which is exactly the expectation that both JJ and, rather redundantly, RJ set up and then fucking wrecked. The shock was not that the power-hungry murderer-torturer-genocidaire went on being exactly those things, but that the nice Skywalker boy refused the redemption that was handed to him on a silver platter. Twice. It’s the same thing with romance: we expect a white guy to be the romantic hero and hence we get reylow and the strenuous insistence that somehow Kylo Ren is the male lead of the franchise against the evidence of everything that actually happened in the movies.

Reylow and Bendemption are not unexpected in any sense. They are in fact everything that global pop culture has primed audiences to expect. That’s why fandom is the way it is. The true subversion would be to show the white fascist murderer be held accountable for his actions and to make it clear that he is not, in fact, entitled to the forgiveness, love, and emotional labor of the people he hurt over and over and never actually cared for. Large sections of the audience will predictably melt down if that is the endgame. Now that’s actually subversive and unexpected.

Isn’t it /interesting/ how despite declaring both the FinnRey hugs completely plutonic so much reyl0 fan art feature Rey and “””Ben””” embracing exactly like Rey and Finn in TFA and TLJ??

It’s totally a sibling hug if Rey and Finn do it but **star-crossed love** when Rey and Benny Boy do. I wonder why.

From what I’ve read on non-JK hating blogs, maybe my family will be just as disappointed with the new film. It has a 39% score on RT.

If you ask me the whole thing with the pro-abortion add stinks to high heaven. Agenda Project is in no way affiliated with PP, they’re a nothing left wing advocacy agency and the add in question is over three years old. This comes right at the heels of the political right in the US having taken a severe beating in the midterm election and now trying all they can to suppress as many left votes as they can. Not saying the add is above criticism, but the timing of it all stinks.

Trying for a distraction after an electoral rout? How shocking and unpredictable.