someone: rey should be with someone who understands her! maybe if it was a guy who was brainwashed from a young age and forced to be on the evil side and was all alone with no friends, but despite all of that he overcame it! someone that is caring and compassionate and doesn’t want to hurt other people!
me, nodding along: exactly! that’s why she and fi-
someone: which is all exactly why i ship her with kylo!
Oh but poor babby Ben felt TERRIBLE about having to kill them, in fact how dare the villagers make him feel so bad these kids deserved to die for that and also children are terrorist enemy combatants too and should have been killed poor Ben did nothing wrong uwu
Also what are these kids whining about anyway? At least they didn’t have a powerful Dark Side user stalking them from their father’s left nut and their dead parents actually cared about them something something kitchen droid Bendemption 2k19!!!✌️👍💖
Oh but poor babby Ben felt TERRIBLE about having to kill them, in fact how dare the villagers make him feel so bad these kids deserved to die for that and also children are terrorist enemy combatants too and should have been killed poor Ben did nothing wrong uwu
Also what are these kids whining about anyway? At least they didn’t have a powerful Dark Side user stalking them from their father’s left nut and their dead parents actually cared about them something something kitchen droid Bendemption 2k19!!!✌️👍💖
Holy shit, they’re not backing away from Kylo slaughtering villages?
My dude, if you recall, his first introduction was slaughtering a village. If they’ve spent the past 3 years relentlessly woobifying him after that, what makes you think more destroyed villages would make them back away? I haven’t seen their reaction because I can only take reylows in brief doses, but they’ve no doubt found some way to rationalize this already.
Oh, I know all about what the Reylos would say – their theory is that Disney is intentionally gonna play up Kylo’s evil leading up to Episode 9 so that his inevitable “““““redemption”“““““ will be all the more “““““surprising”“““““.
Because that’s what we really need right now – reassurance that Nazi analogues can be forgiven for a lifetime of evil after they help someone out one time.
Yeah and that genocide is nbd and people just need to get the fuck over it or they’re the bad guys 😂
Oh but poor babby Ben felt TERRIBLE about having to kill them, in fact how dare the villagers make him feel so bad these kids deserved to die for that and also children are terrorist enemy combatants too and should have been killed poor Ben did nothing wrong uwu
Also what are these kids whining about anyway? At least they didn’t have a powerful Dark Side user stalking them from their father’s left nut and their dead parents actually cared about them something something kitchen droid Bendemption 2k19!!!✌️👍💖
Holy shit, they’re not backing away from Kylo slaughtering villages?
My dude, if you recall, his first introduction was slaughtering a village. If they’ve spent the past 3 years relentlessly woobifying him after that, what makes you think more destroyed villages would make them back away? I haven’t seen their reaction because I can only take reylows in brief doses, but they’ve no doubt found some way to rationalize this already.
Oh but poor babby Ben felt TERRIBLE about having to kill them, in fact how dare the villagers make him feel so bad these kids deserved to die for that and also children are terrorist enemy combatants too and should have been killed poor Ben did nothing wrong uwu
Also what are these kids whining about anyway? At least they didn’t have a powerful Dark Side user stalking them from their father’s left nut and their dead parents actually cared about them something something kitchen droid Bendemption 2k19!!!✌️👍💖
I think that’s a key point, that it DOESN’T MATTER whether Kylo has doubts or has his fee-fees hurt by committing murder or whatever. He gets such a massive amount of credit for his fucking feelings, it’s laughable. It doesn’t matter how bad or conflicted he may feel, his actions are heinous and he has committed crimes he can never fully atone for. It’s his choices that matter, not his regrets or feelings.
im still not over people who are like “aw poor kywo was just scawed… big mean unca wuke did him a fwighten… he didnt mean to be evil uwu” bc like… did you just. miss the part where. he massacred all the other students at the jedi temple and burned it down or…
they didn’t miss it, they’re just saying it was luke who did it to frame benny boy
theyre saying What
that was my reaction too
but y’know poor wee benny boy can’t do no wrong, it’s always someone else’s fault
As far as I care, the poor Ben did nothing wrong uwu crowd don’t actually like Kylo Ren–they like the fanon version of him in their heads, Kylo in leather pants if you will.
Also, Kylo’s trauma from his uncle considering killing him for .1 second makes him a soft boy who can’t be held accountable for any of his heinous actions, while Finn’s lifetime of trauma makes him a scary obsessed stalker who should stay far away from Rey in any romantic sense.
Not to mention, Kylo’s trauma doesn’t exist. The whole reason Luke considered killing him was because “Snoke had already turned his heart”. And Kylo proved him right by fighting after Luke lowered his weapon. Kylo had been planning to betray Luke well before Luke became suspicious. When Kylo turned and saw Luke’s lightsaber ignited, he didn’t get scared. He got caught.
Meanwhile, Rey “I’m not giving you anything”-“get out of my head”-“murderous snake”-“don’t do this. Don’t go this way” of Jakku isn’t being harmed by Kylo Ren just because the writers went a little overboard on making her special.
And simultaneously, Rey “you can’t go. I won’t let you.”-“don’t go.”-“you came back for me”-let me just lay here in the snow and die with my man-“we will see each other again”-“thank you my friend”-“if you see Finn before I do” of Jakku is afraid of, and being stalked by Finn. 🙄
I don’t blame Kylo for fighting Luke or bringing down the hut on him regardless of his evilness or intention, because when Luke brought down his saber it could still be seen as him trying to strike Kylo. (Because the greatest living Jedi Master somehow doesn’t know how to turn off his lightsaber? Sounds fake, but let’s roll with it.) I would not have blamed Kylo for killing Luke, either. But Kylo’s slaughtering other the students who did nothing to him is clearly nowhere in the region of justifiable and shows long planning and premeditation.
So you’re right, absolutely, that he was caught before a premeditated attack, but I don’t put it past him to be still be traumatized by the encounter and what he did in the aftermath. There is zero conflict between him being a mass murderer and being heavily traumatized, since perpetrator trauma is a known phenomenon (link) and suffering does not ennoble a person.
Yes on all your other points. Jason Fry himself, though I have a ton of problems with him, has explicitly debunked the reylow fiction that he said Finn needs to overcome his affection for Rey. And can you believe that reylows say Rey was trying to let go of Finn during their hug and Finn wouldn’t let her 😂 So what was Rey holding her hand out to Finn, hugging Finn first, collapsing on top of an unconscious Finn, and kissing his forehead–did he Force pull her or some shit? Ooh wait, did they just confirm Force-sensitive Finn?
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