Rose’s hair… why is it so bad? The movie even makes a joke about it (can’t remember if that scene got deleted or not) when Finn tries pushing it down when they go undercover. Just, like… who okayed that hairstyle? When I first saw her, I thought, “well, that costume doesn’t look Star Wars at all,” but later I realized her mechanic suit actually looked great. Why the ‘do?

themandalorianwolf:

Considering Loan Tran is beautiful and looks amazing, I don’t know why Johnson stuck her in that bag and odd haircut. No matter, JJ is home.

Because Racist Johnson couldn’t have Loan outshine the skinny white girl, that’s why. Daisy was insulted in the opposite direction, incongruously and ridiculously plastered with makeup as she was.

Hello :) I saw a post of you saying Daisy Ridley, John Boyega and Mark Hamill hated TLJ and I wasn’t aware for the first ones so can you tell me how do you know about that ? Thanks! <3

themandalorianwolf:

How do I know about Daisy and John, or just Daisy?

I do both anyway 🙂 

Daisy, by her own words, cried her eyes out when reading the TLJ script and finding out Rey and Finn would be apart from each other and had gone to RJ to talk about the script (link). The only other thing she ever says about TLJ is the same as Mark did after undoubtedly Disney told him to stop speaking his mind, she would always say “It’s good to be pushed out of your comfort zone” or that “TLJ didn’t feel like a sequel to TFA, but it’s own thing.” I think that’s as close as we’re ever going to get to a professional who gets their bred and butter from Disney ever talking against a movie from them. Though Daisy did say after a rough day on set filming TLJ that she was never going to play Rey again after IX. This was also at the time Daisy thought that Johnson would be doing IX since Colin was already let go at this time for IX.

John behaved more vague about his dislike of TLJ, but it doesn’t take much to see that he didn’t enjoy it at all. His enthusiasm for EP-VIII seemed to have died down through the months until it all but faded completely and he often said the same things as Daisy, that it was hard to be separated from each other and how different things were from TFA. I mean half of all his plot relevant scenes were cut, but there was plenty of Canto light Bright, Tiddy milking, Ben Swallo, and Holdo pissing contents with Poe left in, so I don’t think it’s a far stretch to believe he hated it even if he hadn’t spoken out as much as Mark and Daisy. Remember, John doesn’t want to end up like Terrance Howard.

Thanks for the Ask! Sick avatar.

Also remember Daisy’s ecstatic reaction at finding out JJ and not RJ would be doing IX, and how JJ regretted not staying for VIII (link)?

The JJ haters are wild. Hey anon? JJ actually did have Finn conscious at the end. Know who asked him to leave him unconscious? You guessed it! Rian Johnson. So your premise falls apart that JJ could to be bothered to have Finn wake up at the end. Should he have acceded to Ruin? Idk. I don’t make movies so I don’t know how much choice he had. JJ messed up in giving a narrative that would have been fine for a white character to a black character. Ding him for that. Your other stuff is weak.

Do you have a source for that? All I can find are some fan speculations that RJ asked for Finn to end TFA in a coma.

It’s honestly distracting how inconsistent TLJ is

It really is! I remember this article where RJ said he was surprised at how much freedom he was given to shape events. For that matter, tie-in authors have talked about the amazing amount of freedom they had, too. In retrospect that was not a good thing, because while creators were given the freedom to make Star Wars thought-provoking, fun, diverse, and queer off the big screen, it also meant a bad writer like RJ could make a terrible and incoherent mess of the biggest and best-known vehicle of canon–a saga movie–and no one stopped him with even basic adherence to canon materials. LFL clearly did not have a plan, and if it did it failed to stick to it.

How to watch The Last Jedi and enjoy it

1. Make popcorn. Not just regular popcorn. I mean like distractingly good, buttery salty heaven, maybe pour some queso on it if you love that stuff (I know I do.) Make a gigantic batch and keep a big bowl handy.

2. Optional: find the absolute best ice cream milkshake recipe and whip up a glass. Just one, though, and make sure it’s really good.

3. Get a bowl of pretzels and throw some caramel M&Ms in there.

4. Eat all the food and don’t watch TLJ.

I’m just kidding, but you could do that. That’d be a really good idea.

4. Make your couch as comfortable as possible, unless you can watch in bed. Pillows, blankets– just surround yourself with it. Make sure you don’t have to move too much to reach your food.

5. Procrastinate starting the movie until it’s very late. There’s a purpose behind this step.

6. When you start the movie, keep your phone nearby with the ringer turned all the way up. Maybe you want to live tweet this? I feel like that’d be a good idea.

7. When the movie starts, immediately go to work on your milkshake. You want to finish it before you get to Ahch-to.

8. Don’t think about the plot. Just don’t. Focus on the tiny stuff. “Oh. Imperial veteran. Cool. Oh. Gold robe. Cool. Oh. Yoda. Cool.”

9. When Poe makes his prank call, make a call of your own. Call your mom or something. Talk about anything but Star Wars.

10. When the green milk scene comes up, just close your eyes. You don’t want to see that while you’re eating.

11. Depending on how comfortable your couch is, you should be falling asleep around Canto Bight. This is the idea.

12. If not, make sure you have lots of popcorn.

13. How much have you been tweeting? Tweet more. Your followers should have to suffer through this too.

14. If you make it to Snoke’s death, pause the movie. Congratulate yourself. Order a pizza.

15. Just to procrastinate a bit longer, don’t start the movie again until the pizza’s arrived.

16. Start the movie again. You should be extremely tired right now. Now would be a good time to fall asleep.

17. If you don’t fall asleep, you deserve an award. Congratulations, you made it through the worst Star Wars film ever and you kinda liked it. Not the movie, you still hate it, but that popcorn was really good.

18. Sleep in tomorrow.

The truly sad thing is, Finn spending TLJ in a coma could actually have been brilliant–but ONLY IF it the story had taken care to involve and center him. Obviously not in the way RJ described it in his tasteless joke, with Finn being inert and unimportant while only getting occasional cuts of him stirring in his sleep. That’s not just bad, that’s positively malicious (as much of the movie was tbh). But if the plot had involved Finn heavily, and the coma had been used as an actual opportunity to explore his story and the setting? In that case it would have been better than what we got in TLJ.

Consider: Finn is so seriously injured that he doesn’t wake for most of the movie’s runtime, and due to the haphazard circumstances of the evacuation the Resistance were not able to bring all the necessary equipment and medicine. On top of that they are under constant bombardment and the infirmary is flooded with patients, further complicating his recovery. This would emphasize the gravity of what Kylo Ren did to Finn while showing that the First Order is a direct threat to Finn as well as the Resistance as a whole.

Snoke berates Kylo not only for losing to Rey and being so conflicted over murdering Han Solo, but also for failing to kill Finn. Hux and Snoke are both extremely threatened by Finn’s defection, and Phasma reports unrest in the ranks for which she executed and reconditioned a number of troopers. Snoke makes it clear that he is chasing the Resistance’s main fleet so doggedly in large part because he wants to make sure Finn is dead, or better yet, to drag him before the assembled troopers and make an example of him. This further establishes the FO’s evil and heightens the sense of suspense because Finn is a character that the audience actually cares about, not a nameless extra like many of the Resistance members we saw die on screen.

Rey is worried about Finn and keeps trying to contact the Resistance. When the Force Skype happens she is angry with Kylo over Finn’s injury as well as Han’s murder. Kylo manipulates her in large part by telling her about the Resistance’s plight and the personal danger to Finn–and he insinuates, or lets her believe, that he would let the Resistance go and spare Finn’s life.

We continue the bond between Finn and Poe by having Poe go on the Canto Bight mission (or some better mission that makes more sense, getting help from Lando?), and Rose going with him because she is deeply affected by Finn’s heroism.

Most crucially, however, Finn’s coma is not just about him lying there but is an exploration of his past and trauma, even his connection with the Force. We see some of the Before the Awakening materials where he is an elite cadet whose only flaw is too much empathy. We get to see his relationship with a living Slip, his other squadmates, and Phasma. (Give Phasma more to do, you cowards.) This would parallel and contrast the exploration of Kylo’s past, continuing the foil relationship. Finn was already a cadet when Kylo Ren formally joined the FO, and this
intersection in their stories would have been interesting to explore.

We see glimpses of Finn’s traumatic kidnapping as a child, something that distresses him so much that it registers on the medical monitors. Finn also relives the massacre of Hosnia and many other things he wasn’t physically present for, including present events, though he is only able to affect things in small snatches such as shouting a warning to Poe at a crucial moment which Poe actually hears.

Finally, on Crait, Finn’s Force projection grows strong enough that he helps provide the crucial clue for getting out of the mines, and he leads Rey to the back entrance. Even Chewie sees him by this point and roars out a greeting. She is overjoyed at the connection with Finn and is happy and confident when she lifts the rocks, in direct contrast to her tension and sadness when talking to Kylo.

Finn finally wakes, Sleeping Beauty style, on the Millennium Falcon with Rey by his side and stroking his hand. They have a joyful reunion and everyone on board celebrates this flash of hope among the darkness, making the hopeful ending seem actually deserved.

Lesson: You can keep a character in a coma for a whole movie and still advance his story as long as you give half a shit about him. It’s telling that RJ’s treatment of Finn was so reluctant and half-assed that it was fully possible to tell a better story based on a throwaway joke of an idea.

Hey, its a different anon :) Do you know where we see the breakdowns for the length of screen time per character? Watching TLJ it felt like Rey had less screen time than before and her story seemed liked a subplot that connected to the main story of the Resistance trying to escape the FO. Yet I keep seeing her story being referred to as the main plot with the most screen time.

I was curious myself, and here’s one breakdown by IMBD user ninewheels0 (link):

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According to this count Rey has the most screentime in both movies, so calling hers (Kylo and Luke’s, really) the main plot is not wrong. However her screentime is, in fact, reduced in TLJ compared to TFA so your gut feeling is right as well. Kylo had slightly less screen time in TLJ than TFA, too, which is why his screentime count did not jump in comparison to other characters. You can see that he’s made a significant gain on Finn, though. He had 2/3 of Finn’s screentime in TFA, but the two are almost even in TLJ. And that’s just mechanically counting the minutes–I think we can agree that there was significantly more focus on Kylo’s character and background during the time he appeared on screen than there was on Finn during his appearances.

The forum post where I found the above count also did a comparison of how each character’s screentime in TLJ compared to their time in TFA (link). The result is pretty telling: Finn had the biggest negative shift in TFA-TLJ screen time other than Han, who died.

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Finn getting the most time cut is in absolute minutes, not the proportion of screen time. Finn didn’t have the greatest proportion of his screentime cut among the living characters, but the only living characters who had a greater proportion of their screentime cut were secondary and tertiary characters such as BB-8, Chewbacca, and Maz.

RJ might not have carried through with his joke of keeping Finn in a coma for the entire movie, but he seems to have gone as close to it as he could get away with.