but what are some sundown towns do y’all know of? like if someone were to do a cross-country trip, what are some towns they should absolutely not go through?
Small towns in south ga and noth fla
Ga: Jonesboro, tifton, Albany, valdosta, Macon
Fla: Gainesville, Perry, Madison, Marianna, Quincy, Jefferson county, hell I wouldn’t stop in Tallahassee either
Texas: Vidor, Orange, Deep Santa Fe
Texas: Jasper & Lumberton
I’m from Albany and recently the police beat up a young brother for no reason. They were attempting to say he had drugs but he of course had nothing.
If you go to Stone Mountain and find yourself on the trails close to night leave because they still have active Klan rallys up there
I was driving through north Florida during the day and I felt uncomfortable
The Negro Motorist Green Book was guide for black folk traveling in the 60s. It’s gives a breakdown of sundown towns. 50 years later, I’m sure it’s still relevant.
I feel like the Deep South is just a gamble.
Ohio…just in general
Central Florida, especially the little towns. If you must stop to pump gas, pay away the pump and get outta there asap
Once you get out of St. Louis county start being careful.
St. Genevieve, MO is definitely a no go for me if I’m traveling south.
If traveling in Louisiana stay away from small town with low speeding zones. If you are to go into those please drive the speed limit and don’t stop for gas. You will get a ticket for tint of your car. If your military I pay you drive the speed limit and don’t have a military tag. Get gas in the daylight.
I’m glad you’re looking out for your bros, at the same time it’s a pathetic look at the country in the 21st century.
Saving this and reblogging for myself and my tumblr fam stay safe love you guys (also check the notes for comments on more cities to avoid)
Ohio: Hartville, Sebring, Salem are all in NE Ohio. Had the worst experience of my life in Hartville.
Tennessee: Polk county and the ones surrounding it probably aren’t good either
Not just Gainesville, FL but pretty much all of Alachua County. Especially Waldo. Especially especially Trenton and Newberry.
So in case you needed more proof that the TLJ novelization in conjunction with the movie is complete trash, here are some excerpts of the ending scene:
[Caption: Temiri wasn’t fond of Oniho–the older boy slacked off whenever Bargwill Tomder wasn’t around, forcing Temiri and the other children to work harder to keep up with the chores that had to be done… .]
Then there’s a paragraph about their asshole supervisor Bargwill’s bad mood after the falthier escape (thanks, Rose!), then one paragraph down:
[Caption: But Arashell Sar liked Oniho’s stories, and had asked Temiri to come with her and hear Oniho’s newist one. And Temiri would do almost anything if it meant a chance to sit next to Arashell.]
If you match this up with the movie, this boy, Oniho the storyteller, is the inconsiderate slackoff who’s only really good at entertainment:
[Caption: Josiah Oniha as Oniho, a young stableboy on Canto Bight]
While this boy, Temiri, only tolerates Oniho because he likes the girl next to him, Arashell, who likes to hear Oniho’s stories.
[Caption: Temirlan Blaev as Temiri and Sara Heller as Arashell]
Oh, and also? When the groom Bargwill bursts in, in the book Oniho is the first to flee while Temiri tries to keep himself between Bargwill and Arashell. So not only is Oniho a slackoff according to Temiri, but a coward as well. It didn’t happen this way in the movie, to be fair: Temiri and Arashell started running first and Oniho ran out separately.
[Caption: Oniho had already fled. Temiri tried to keep his body between Bargwill and Arashell, hoping she’d notice what he was doing for her, and almost got a fierce kick in the backside for his troubles. Arashell didn’t need his help anyway–she slipped nimbly past the stable keeper to safety.]
As we know, Temiri is also the only one of the three shown to be Force sensitive. But at least his attempt to help/impress Arashell is useless and she can take care of herself, so yay feminism!
Before anyone tries to give the argument that Jason Fry didn’t know the races of the children at the time of writing–the characters’ names here are clearly modeled on the cast names. In addition, I shouldn’t even have to say this but none of this is on the kids, I hope they had the time of their lives and wish them all the best. I’m talking about Johnson and Fry showing their asses.
At least Temiri’s impression of the story seems to lampshade how convoluted TLJ’s narrative is:
[Caption: Temiri couldn’t quite follow all of the tale–it had a lot of twists and turns–but the climax was pretty good. It came down to one man with something Oniho called a lightsaber, and that one man was facing an entire army.]
In conclusion I hate TLJ and the novelization so much.
I’ve come to the conclusion that this fandom as a whole wants John Boyega to be isolated, the fandom wants him to be put down, shoven aside, disliked… they want that he’s arrogant, that the rest of the cast doesn’t like him, that his role will be minor bc he caused it himself … and some who love John seem to be ready to believe this. I know the fandom is paranoid, I know what happened in TLJ well enough and I know thag LF is racist as fuck but I wish people would stop believing that there’s something behind this that is caused by John himself … that R*ylos think this is nothing new… that racist idiots on Reddit love to think so is nothing new … but that this very side of the fandom is ready to believe this and other nonsense is starting to honestly piss me off.
I mean I actually don’t have a hard time believing that RJ is a big enough racist asshole that he punished John on some level for being his confident, dignified self and not scraping and bowing the way RJ believes he should. Lots of people see John as “arrogant” for being comfortable and grounded, after all, and this is frequently how white and other nonblack people interact with Black people. There’s nothing John could have done to prevent that short of being the grinning caricature they want–and I doubt even that would have done it, because then he wouldn’t be taken seriously. There is literally no way to win, and it’s telling that people blame this situation on John instead of the racist constructs that Black people have to navigate. But of course racism is now over or some shit so it’s gotta be John’s fault 😂
I feel Anti-Asianness is more of a blanket term that encompasses orientalism and xenophobia and then other things that that don’t exactly fit in with either of the two.
If we think of it as like a venn diagram, maybe it might make more sense.
We might experience a micro or macroaggression that doesn’t necessarily play into orientalism, but it might be a part of xenophobia. But there may be some times we experience something that isn’t necessarily orientalist or xenophobic, but we still know it is Anti-Asian sentiment.
– Michaela
Just to add my POV, the reason why we don’t (or shouldn’t) use “anti-Asianness” is because that’s just appropriating the term “anti-Blackness” without paying attention to the long academic history and specific context of when/why/how the term was created. Doing that just adds to the list of things that Asians take from Black people without thinking. It would be more appropriate to use anti-Asian racism as a blanket term because that came up alongside the other “anti-[x] racism” terms.
I’m also sorry about your mom, because what she’s doing sounds extremely racist, invalidating, insensitive, and uncaring. And I can imagine how much this hurts, especially when it comes from family.
I won’t say that you can convince her, because man, I think we all have at least that one family member that’s like that, whom maybe we’ve tried to explain things to, to no avail.
I don’t know your mom or your relationship with her. I don’t know if a heartfelt letter to her or sending her readings or an open and earnest (and probably inevitably intense) sit-down talk will do it (or be possible in the first place). If you think she might be, then I do recommend trying these things, and I know neither would be easy to do. It’s not an easy conversation.
It might go something like this, “Mom, I know you love me and care about me. I know it’s a subject that makes you uncomfortable / upsets (or other word) you, but it’s real important to me that we talk about it. Some of the things you say make me feel real terrible and it’s hurting our relationship.”
Even if you never convince her that her racism is wrong, maybe you can convince her to at least stop vocalizing it. Because she loves you. That’s probably the best compromise you can hope for if she won’t listen / learn / agree with you and or/if you’re unable to not live with your family.
If she brings up racism towards white people, you can say “We can have a conversation about that at another time if it ‘s also something that upsets you, but right now we’re talking about / I would like to talk about this.”
Moreover, even if “reverse racism” / “racism to whites” existed, that doesn’t mean that it’s ok for her to do it to you, even if she thinks you’re racist to her. I wonder if she actually feels upset about Starbucks related comments, or just the perceived unfairness that “PoC can raise these issues as racist but whites can’t”. Because if that’s true, I recommend she understand the difference between everybody being treated the same and everybody being treated fairly (because these two things aren’t the same).
I hope this can help you start. Please, other comments below?
Mod W
I’m also Korean and I have an abusive, racist dad who is also Korean. His racism isn’t directed at me but at Black and brown people, and that was bad enough–I can’t imagine how much worse it would be if I were the target. Like when I was a teenager he once hit me with a stick over an argument that started with my commenting that a Black woman in hanbok was beautiful and him telling me Black people aren’t beautiful. He claimed he discplined me because I raised my voice at him, but I’m not going to dignify an act of violence and intimidation done in clear anger with even the term punishment, though I am opposed to corporeal punishment in general. And YEAH you’re gonna get some voices raised at you if you’re gonna be that ugly a racist, bitch. You’re lucky I didn’t punch you out.
Anyway.
Op’s suggestion could be worth a try if anon hasn’t tried something like it before. That said, if anon’s mom is anything like my dad it’s futile. My adolescence and early adulthood were a long series of heartfelt conversations with my dad, with my entire family trying and trying to get through to him. My brother and I called him out on his racist comments, we all told him how his controlling and overbearing behavior affected us, we tried arguing, we tried being gentle and genuine, we gave ultimatums, my mom once left home and disappeared for a day after he had been particularly nasty, she said she wanted a divorce, everything. I asked him to go to therapy, though I now doubt it would have worked. We tried everything.
None of it worked. He played victim, said we were ungrateful, said it was because of his trauma, said it was the generation gap, said we needed to change and not him. I remember how Mom and I once cried together in her car because Dad was at home.
He hasn’t changed because he doesn’t want to change. The conversation I described at the beginning took place took place over 20 years ago and just this past July I was arguing with him about Korea accepting Yemeni refugees (he’s against it. Shock). And he is still the same manipulative, controlling asshole as ever. The difference is that I have given up on him and have an independence from him that allows me not to put up with more of his shit than the bare minimum required. He calls me from time to time whining about how distant we are, blaming me for it of course, and I don’t care. He had many many chances to repair our relationship. He’s made it clear he won’t change, and I’m letting him live with that decision.
Maybe anon’s mother is not like my dad and she actually is open to change. I just want anon to know, though, that there’s nothing wrong with giving up on their mother. If she gets fragile and defensive and possibly even more abusive, then it’s best to stop engaging and end dangerous conversations as soon as possible with insincere agreements and meaningless platitudes. Avoid conflicts with this woman for as long as you can and, once you’re able to live independently of her, get the hell out of Dodge.
Abusive people are not abusive because they’re upset or traumatized or insecure. They are abusive because they CHOOSE to take out their upset, trauma, or insincerity on people they have power over, whether that is a racial minority or a family member–or both, as in the case of anon’s mom. They can choose differently and become non-abusive, and it’s also the only way. I don’t want anon or anyone to think it is possible to change an abusive person by saying the right things or finding the right leverage, or that it’s their responsibility to do so. Only they can change themselves.
I feel it anon. It is SO upsetting to see people just dismiss Finn out of hand as a love interest because of the color of his skin. Like I knew it was bad for interracial pairings, but the SW fandom just floored me with how much they will do anything do ship Rey with anyone but the black man. Finn and Rey are the kind of I-never-knew-I-needed-you-in-my-life, meant-to-be-together, actual soulmates ship, and yet people refuse to see it. And if Finn was white there would absolutely be no argument that they were the main ship of the series. But instead we get people trying to validate crack ships or a ship with absolutely no buildup because it’s more palatable to them. And it honestly just makes me so angry and sad when I think about it. The only thing that makes me feel better is that I strongly believe that JJ will make them canon. Because even if fandom stays a racist trashfire, that would be such a huge step (STAR WARS, possibly the biggest franchise in the world with a lead interracial couple) and a giant middle finger to all the racists who have been denying them from day 1.
For the life of me I can’t figure out this argument that Finn’s sacrificial charge at the cannon was hateful and Rose’s “not fighting what we hate” line worked as a coherent expression of theme. The arguments I’ve seen for Finn’s charge being fueled by hate are basically made up to make Rose’s line work and have weak bases in the actual canon scene. Here are some I’ve seen, with counterarguments:
Argument: The mission was pointless because Finn already knew no one was coming to save him and he was going to kill himself out of spite.
Counterargument: There’s no basis in the actual filmed scene to say the original reason for the ski speeder mission–earn time for allies to arrive–was invalidated. Confirmation that their signal was received but not responded to only came after Rose crashed into Finn
Argument: Finn said earlier at Canto Bight that it felt good to hurt the war profiteers with the falthier rampage, while Rose said no, it was worth it to set the falthiers free, which was clear foreshadowing that Finn was driven by hate and a desire to hurt while Rose was focused on love and freedom
Counterargument: Okay, to vent a little, that exchange was plain bad and rendered both Finn’s and Rose’s arcs absurd. It was a really weird and abrupt switcheroo from when Finn was the one who was temporarily awed by the beauty and glitz of Canto Bight and Rose was the one who wanted to put her fists through the town. Plus, given that Rose was the one who tased a wounded Finn into unconsciousness and paralysis because she was so angry at him, it’s kinda rich to see her play the saint without any kind of apology or amends.
To get to the main point, If this exchange was meant to be foreshadowing it was poorly done because the two situations were so different. On Crait Finn was trying to save his friends and preserve hope for the future, attempting to destroy a weapon for that end isn’t inherently hateful
Argument: Finn was bathed in red light, which in Star Wars means he was on the Dark Side of the Force
Counterargument: Effects like lighting can be a nice supplement to storytelling but can’t override the actual story. Like Jesus Christ you really don’t have arguments, do you?
Argument: Finn was mistaken about his sacrifice having any impact, Rose is a technological expert so she stopped him from sacrificing his life meaninglessly.
Counterargument: Actually Finn recognized the technology while Rose didn’t, he has way more reason to know how the First Order’s tech works, and TLJ showed him to be Rose’s peer in terms of technical knowledge and ingenuity.
Even if we accept this argument, though, at best it says that he was being ignorant or incompetent, not hateful.
Argument: Finn was angry during his charge, unlike Holdo and Paige who were more serene.
Counterargument: So being kinda mad that the fascist organization that kidnapped and enslaved you is now going to kill all your friends = being a hateful Dark Sider? Being angry at oppression makes you the moral equivalent of your oppressors now? And if Finn had been more calm and serene about sacrificing himself to save his friends, would the exact same act cease to be hateful?
Argument: Rose said Finn was being hateful, so it must be true.
Counterargument: I saw this circular reasoning from more than one person. Again, you know they don’t have any arguments when they work backward from the conclusion. I mean maybe it’s possible the scene was just poorly written and the movie was incoherent as hell?
@thehungryvortigaunt That’s what tipped me over into actually writing this post after stewing over my growing irritation at these arguments. This is just one of the ways in which TLJ is heavy-handedly and nonsensically Christian, and fandom is falling all over itself trying to validate its idea of Finn and Poe as scary and violent when in fact they are the ones who are frequently targeted by violence.
Yeah, the smugness of that reddit post did make me twitch a little. Other highlights included talking about how Finn taking pride in defeating Phasma is somehow a BAD thing, and pretending like there has never been a megacorporation/war-profiteer in SW canon before (hello, Trade Federation!), or totally ignoring the futility of the violence in Rose’s behavior. The film showed us an Asian woman promoting GIVING UP and letting DEUS EX WHITE MAN save the day on Not-Hoth…
@thehungryvortigaunt omg I stopped reading after the “hate-fueled” part, thanks for reading it so I don’t have to. So basically Finn is uppity and had to be taken down a notch? 😂 The ONLY way Rose’s arc is even vaguely palatable is if she came to realize she was wrong about Finn and was wrong to assault him, except there’s no admission of wrong and no change in her dismissive and insulting behavior toward him. Her spouting that coldest of takes and kissing Finn while all their friends are about to be killed in the background was the height of comedy lmao.
So basically Finn is uppity and had to be taken down a notch?
I’ve seen this same sentiment expressed by many people on SW message boards about other Finn moments and I can’t stand it. Apparently taking stuff and doing whatever one wants is only bad when Finn does it. When he tries to take an escape pod and leave the Raddus to save himself and Rey it’s wrong according to some people because he’s abandoning the Resistance, which he never joined, and taking a ship that he’s not authorized to use. But somehow at the same time it’s okay for Rose to abandon her post and leave the Raddus because Poe sends her and Finn to Canto Bight in one of those ships that supposedly no one was allowed to use. None of the people that get on Finn’s case seem to have a problem with them doing the same things. I guess as long as hypocrisy is fine if it involves Finn being put in his place.
So basically, “why do you care about Black people?” Do I really have to ask you to take the “Black” out of that sentence to see why it’s ridiculous? Black people are like… people, and they get shat on and shut down to ridiculous degrees so I call it like I see it when these arguments cross my path. Furthermore anti-racism is the fight of ALL decent people, and antiblackness is the hinge on which white supremacy turns so it affects everyone.
Obviously that doesn’t mean I’m leading any kind of battle, running some shitty little SW blog does not make me an anti-racist leader lmao. I’m just trying not to pile on the crap that gets piled on Black people and help out when I can. What, I’m supposed to join y’all in dismissing and shutting down all conversations about racism, or stand on the sidelines to be “neutral” because it’s not my fight, or I’m a white knight? Fuck outta here.
What is the accusation here, is it that I love Black people? You wanna call me some kind of lover next? Like, don’t think you’re the first condescending assnugget who’s told me I shouldn’t side with Black people. The attempts to divide and pit Black and Asian people against each other are endemic and a lot of Asians actually fall for it because they’re stupid enough to think they’re ever going to be accepted as white lmao.
As for racism, in a world where the Reverand Jesse Jackson has talked about his internalized racism (link) I suspect that no one would be left to talk about racism or do something about it if a complete squeaky-clean record on racism is required. It… doesn’t… work like that. It’s not racists on one side and good people on the other. The actual divide is more between people who are willing to recognize the problem of racism, including within themselves, on the one hand and on the other, people who want to distance themselves from the problem to maintain their self-image of moral purity.
what in the world? I didn’t know you can’t be against racism if you aren’t black. Like what, as an asian I’m only allowed to hate my people being wronged and fuck everyone else??? We’re only allowed to care about injustice and discrimination when it happens to us? What kind of white nonsense is that? What kind of world does anon want to live in where nobody cares or extends empathy to anyone else?
Some seem to believe that calling people out on racism is some kind of horrible character assassination or social death sentence, but in most cases it isn’t. It’s just a learning experience. Below is some of the racist shit I’ve done in the SW fandom alone, for instance. My point in compiling these is not to say racism is normal or okay, still less that I am some kind of hero for owning up to these. Rather, what I’m trying to say is that racism is very common and that’s why it’s important to face and address these biases so we can avoid hurting real people. Obviously, due to the subject matter, this post contains descriptions of racism and specifically antiblack racism.
Note: I’m not including links because I deleted some of these posts, others are hard to find due to changes in my tagging system, and I don’t believe there is much value in linking and propagating them anyway. But these happened, and I have no reason to make up instances of my own racism. I could have forgotten or sanitized some things, of course, so if your recollection or sources contradict mine let me know.
I said early in my time in fandom, mid-2016-ish, that I loved Finn and Rey’s friendship but also thought they had great sex appeal so I wanted them to be friends with benefits and co-parents. @diversehighfantasy, in whose notes I put this, very politely pointed out that this tied into a stereotype that interracial couples weren’t truly romantic and their relationships were all about sex. I deleted the post and apologized to her, which she graciously accepted. This isn’t to say her politeness worked and that’s how people should approach callouts–in fact if anything her politeness didn’t work, because I felt angry and defensive in a way that had nothing to do with how she broached the issue and everything to do with the way I had built an identity around being an egalitarian and moral person. I worked through it, and got over it. I was fine. That incident really made me think, and I realized later on that I had been “missing” a fuckton of romantic subtext, nah, huge blatant neon billboard text, between Finn and Rey.
In my earliest Finn meta I had a very different and, I later realized, heavily distorted idea of Finn’s character. I thought for instance he was smiling in glee while he was shooting down Stormtroopers in the hangar scene. Later I realized on rewatching that scene to analyze it, not only was he not shooting at Stormtroopers, he was not smiling at all, just fiercely concentrating. This realization sickened me because I had to wonder how many otherwise well-meaning people who would swear they were not racist saw aggression in Black people that wasn’t there, and in situations with much higher stakes. Research confirms the existence of this bias (link), and that Black children as young as five are subjected to it (link).
I also wrote a short Finnpoe fic that I realize, in retrospect, was racist as hell. Based on the fact that Poe had shot Slip, I had Poe wake up from a nightmare where he had killed Finn instead and wrote about Finn comforting Poe about that trauma, saying Poe would have been right to kill him. Like… yaigh. I’m happy in retrospect that the fic didn’t attract much attention. If I had been called out I would have realized sooner what was wrong with it, but I did figure out from later fandom discussions that this was part of a common pattern with Finn’s own trauma being disregarded and him being enlisted to comfort Poe or Rey. My fic does seem to me like a really egregious example of this trope, though. I tried to watch out for this tendency when I wrote other fics later on, and I think they have much improved as a result.
I also reblogged and laughed about another blogger’s joke involving Adam punching John over unwanted hugging. This was ignorant and insensitive of me, obviously, and was another one of the instances that got instant pushback–deservedly so. Tbh the amount of violence Black people are regularly subjected to in places like the U.S. still boggles my mind, and as a nonblack and also otherwise very privileged person I will never comprehend the full reality of it. That doesn’t mean it was okay for me to ignore the implications of such a joke. And I did in fact feel uncomfortable and wondered if it was racist so I can’t plead ignorance, either–I just didn’t want to think too deeply about it and that was wrong of me.
That’s what I can think of at the moment. There were times I felt defensive and fragile, especially when called out by others, but again–that was my burden to work through, and it certainly wasn’t worth dismissing others’ valid points and hurts over. I was and remain perfectly fine.
Well good job guys 😔😭 literally every single personal picture had disgusting racist or hateful comments blaiming her for everything. You guys are awful! Anna is the sweetest person and doesn’t deserve this. She was so interactive with fandom from her other shows and you guys decided to be assholes and run her off. She was so excited for this too
Like you can hate the costume but there is NEVER a good reason to be hateful and racist towards an actress that has no say in any of this.
Also….. people had problems with Beast Boy, Raven, and Dick Grayson as well, yet when I go to their Instagrams they have NOWHERE near the same level of hate Anna had…. I thought the whole trailer sucked to you guys? Yet you guys only constantly attacked one person…. hmm I wonder why?
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