Okay so apparently people don’t believe me or others when we say that the First Order are basically space Nazis. Here is a link to a direct quote on the subject.
Are we good now? Can you understand why people don’t want these Star Wars villians being treated as misunderstood babies?
And since people keep being gross about this anyway: JJ Abrams is Jewish. Lawrence Kasdan is Jewish. They are unreservedly allowed, as Jewish artists, to write and design stories that are analogs of Jewish experience and use the fantastic to symbolize their own oppressors. They have every right to be as overt or subtle as they want, too – and they went explicit as fuck, so stop ignoring/minimizing their intentions.
They knew what they were doing when they wrote Phasma and Kylo leading stormtroopers in a pogram against an impoverished village of religious outsiders.
They knew what they were doing when Hux gave a Space Nuremberg Rally.
They knew what they were doing doing when, instead of showing their Space Genocide from outside, we watched the Hosnian victims’ dying, horrified faces – unnamed and unknown, but important.
They knew what they were doing when they decided Kylo’s prize trophy was human ashes.
Furthermore, none of the major actors playing FO characters (Driver, Gleeson, Christie, or Serkis) are Jewish, so regardless of fictional Ben Solo’s fictional heritage – which was an intentional choice on the part of his creators when they wrote him as a poster-boy for the FO/gave him a fucking templar cross for a lightsaber – you’re never “calling a Jew a Nazi if you compare Kylo/Hux/the FO to neo-Nazis!!1!”
Denying Jewish artists the agency and legitimacy of their own stories is gross. Don’t do it.
Don’t talk over Jewish fans who keep fucking pointing out that they’re overtly Nazi allegories.
And for FUCK’S sake, stop stanning fucking Nazis.
(I’d also venture to say – the reason JJ and Rian view Kylo so differently is because, as far as I know, Rian is the goyest of goyim.)
I think the best plot and story for Episode IX would be for the First Order to be going through a civil war due to the power vacuum that was created after the death of Snoke.
A compelling and interesting conflict would be that while the resistance is trying to build a new army, the F0, with significant more forces due to now being the dominant power, is struggling to stay unified because of the imperials who don’t want to follow Hux and Kylo. Both characters are equally hated by imperials and troopers, though for different reasons, and one of the things keeping the FO unified was Hux and Kylo’s melted sugar daddy, but now that he’s dead there is nothing stopping I Civil War because of power struggles.
In the final issue the Poe Dameron comic we see just how against the Imperials are with the idea of Hux being the leader, and they don’t even factor in Kylo as an option. The FO was never an organization united, and I think if JJ Abrams wants to connect this trilogy when it is so disconnected, A great story elements would be showing the realistic consequences of Snoke’s death.
We saw the Republic at war in the prequels, we saw the Sith empire fight the Jedi in the old republic, and we saw galactic civil war in the OT, but we have never seen imperials fight imperials. At least not on the big screen: I think I could be an interesting story for IX.
I’d love this, but what would Hux’s role be? We saw what happened when he stood up to KR, so it seems unlikely he’d be in open revolt. If we see the Assholes of Ren in IX they’ll likely be acting as enforcers to crush not only Hux but any kind of dissent. Under these circumstances I think slowly mounting discontent with Ren’s incompetence and dictatorial style is likelier, with the Stormtroopers hardest hit at the bottom of the military rung. This pressure could culminate in factional war and possibly a Stormtrooper uprising the moment the Supreme Asshat shows weakness. Let soldiers go hungry and fail to convince them there’s any point to their deaths, and they’ll decide you’re the enemy.
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