Look guys, as far as you’re concerned, LJ doesn’t ship Reylo, period. If there’s more nuance to that question that requires a more complicated answer than “no”, that’s her business. Mind your own and get off her back. Jeez. Literally her whole blog speaks for itself but you guys only care about that one post.

I think it’s legit for people to not want to interact with someone who creates/is open to creating reylow content even if I don’t “ship” it in the sense of endorsing it. I hope my answers provided full and clear information on that point so they can make their own decisions.

This is the bull shit with shipping Wars. Everyone knows where you stand. They’ve been rebloging from you for years at this point. It’s basically just a fandom strawmam contest till some new content comes in. These people need to relax. Maybe go read you hundreds of essays of anti reylow, doomerey, and benny boy posts.

There are good reasons people are going crazy, since TLJ was so crazy-making and some people are actually nervous about canon reylow/bendemption happening–something that has less than zero backing in the story but still comes across as a legitimate threat solely because of white heteronormativity, plus misogyny racism etc. Finn being an actual central hero feels like a distant memory by now, with his story and character laughed at and spat on not only by the fandom but by “canon” now. I can see how a prominent “anti” saying she “ships” reylo can feel like the last straw. Nuance tends to fare poorly when people are on their last nerve.

So you’re okay with Damerey then which black fans have expressed unease with? All righty then, peace. I’m disappointed as hell because I really liked your blog and I was relieved when you stood up for the young girl who was being groomed but you’re a fraud.

It may surprise you then that I have an entire anti Damerey tag. Again, same thing with reylow–don’t like the ship (for different reasons than reylow and I dislike reylow vastly more), don’t like the way shippers act especially in devaluing and desexualizing Finn and Rey’s connection, don’t think it should be endgame ever, fine with people shipping but don’t want to see it for myself. I have been pretty consistent about this, I’m not sure which part comes as a surprise.

Are you high? Yes, Damerey is antiblack. Finnrose as it stands right now is antiblack. Reylo is antiblack. Finnpoe is not because Finn and Poe have an established friendship. Reyva is not because wlw relationships in a mainstream movie are nonexistent and Jessika is not white. Now I think you’re just shitting on black people. Idk if you’re just tired of pretending to care about the bullshit we endure in this fucked up fandom or what but literally you sound exactly like every antiblack reylo.

Look, I really can’t keep track of all those categories of what is an acceptable ship or not. I do in fact vocally dislike the first three ships and am annoyed with the shippers (and gotten the shit to show for it), but it’s like you said–I’m just not that woke™. If being an ally in fandom means being completely up on those different categories and toeing the line exactly, then I’m not up for it. All I have ever been doing here was trying to have fun and bitching about the shit that makes fandom unfun for me and others. I don’t consider that activism or political in any way and never have.

No one who wrote that outline reylo would be okay with Finnrey. I feel duped by you. You stood judgment over people all the time feeling that there was a way in which Rey and some nonexistent character named Ben who abused her in canon could pledge their love for each other, as if Finn never existed or meant anything to Rey. It’s antiblack and foul, and you’re being childish because you realize you exposed yourself and you can’t face the music from people pissed that you lied all this time.

So positing the possibility of any ship for Rey but with Finn is antiblack and I can’t want Finn to be a dear friend to Rey while they date other people or no one? Sorry to say but I have made and reblogged multiple works with exactly that premise, including Roserey and Finnpoe, Rey/Jessika, Finnpoe with Rey single etc. etc. I wondered if I could make a scenario where “Ben” could be one of those people. I acknowledged that I failed and it was OOC and implausible. But again, this is Tumblr and no one is allowed to change their mind on anything ever lmaooooo

The answer is no. What you state is not a part of shipping. By your metric, every reylo who writes something shitty about finnrey actually ships it. Hateshipping really doesn’t exist. Crackshipping does, but by definition it is something that is acknowledged to make no sense. Joker/Batman is a crackship. It exists. But it’s nonsensical. You have a long outline of a scenario you acknowledge you would be “fine” with happening in reylo. That is not crackshipping. It is shipping.

Again, it doesn’t matter that I changed my mind about it because no one is ever allowed to change their mind on anything asdjksgsd go away, you’re boring me.

I don’t know why are you surprised people are asking if you’re a reylo? You already know this ship make people uncomfortable. That’s not funny

It’s funny (to me) because the categories are so comically inadequate. For me personally, the reylow community makes me deeply uncomfortable, not to mention enraged, because they are so strident about denying and romanticizing abuse, and so eager to erase the importance of Finn to Rey and the story at large. This behavior is so visible and prominent in the mainstream shipping community that the word “reylo” has become synonymous with these behaviors. As a result there’s actually no term, reylo or anti, for someone creates content with the subject matter of reylo but does not endorse it.

So I’m an anti in the sense that I dislike and criticize the ship and its shipping community, but a shipper with an asterisk in the sense that I create, or am open to creating, content about (but not endorsing) the ship. If anyone is uncomfortable interacting with me for the latter reason, of course, they shouldn’t.

This confusion isn’t unique to the SW fandom, a lot of fandoms have the problem where “ship” is synonymous with “endorse,” and I think it causes a lot of unnecessary confusion and discourages the creation of whole areas of fanworks where depiction does not equal endorsement.

People keep asking for clarification because you answered a yes or no question with a vague answer. You use “kinda” and “might” in your answer and that makes it difficult for people to determine whether or not you support something they want no interaction with. All they want to know is yes or no. Do you ship it in any capacity?

And here we go again, asking a yes/no question using a term that has multiple meanings. Let me be as clear as I possibly can:

If by “ship” you mean endorsement in any sense, as in this should be canon or this is healthy or okay, NO.

If by “ship” you mean it to include fan creation on the subject without any endorsement whatsover of the subject matter, then YES. As I discussed in my first ask on the subject, however (link), by this metric many of the metas and edits currently called anti reylo content should actually be called reylo content.

Not disagreeing with you but what about when a man rejects a woman and the woman complains about being friendzoned? It can’t be an issue of misogyny in that case, so what is it?

It’s an issue of the woman being an entitled ass just like the man who complains about being FZ’d is. The reason we gender this issue is because feeling entitled to a person’s romantic/sexual attention while devaluing their friendship is not just an individual issue but a cultural one based on societal misogyny. So it tends to happen more often with men and it tends to be more serious with more social and cultural pressure behind it. It certainly doesn’t mean individual women can’t be entitled and pushy.

Love how you pretended to gaf about the black people who suffer at the hands of reylo and you shipped that shit all along. Priceless. This is why I and other black fans realize that solidarity between black people and non-black POC is a myth. You have the luxury of being able to say this shit without getting your inbox blown up with racial slurs. People should have known you were reylo trash when you admitted to being antiblack against Finn.

I mean obviously I have the privilege not to have racist hatred directed against me, and have commented on this before. For that reason I am not the right person to take any kind of lead on the hatred Black fans face in fandom, and I have made that clear a number of times. The best I can do is support and validate Black fans, and if you now believe that was disingenuous on my part there’s nothing I can do to dissuade you. Like you said I do in fact have and always will have racist and antiblack biases and will continue to try to confront and examine them, but obviously that’s my own thing to do and no one is obligated to cheer me on or hold my hand through it.