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I’m a white agnostic in a white roman catholic yet secular society. My objection to religion has to do with homophobia, transphobia, racism and misogyny. I can’t follow an organisation that treats the lgbt+ community as evil and women and poc as lesser. But i respect faith. I just can’t have it. If God does exist, how does he allow the world to be such garbage? That’s my issue with religion. But others can have faith and practice religion. (1/2)

However, my province (Quebec, Canada) is using its secularism to
propagate this idea that following religion is bad. That ppl shouldn’t
wear religious signs bc it’s ostentatious (yes it’s the actual word
used). There was even a chart to remove all “ostentatious signs” yet
keeping the cross at the National Assembly for historic reasons (which
is bs bc Maurice Duplessi put it in the 50s to assert his power and the
closeness of the state with the church). (2/3)

The closeness of the state with the church was a real issue bc
the church was telling ppl who to vote for and was pushing religious
ideas in homes. (Women should have more kids) This lead to secularism in
the 60s. But since then, ppl have been using secularism to be
xenophobic towards non Christians. Towards muslims and Sikhs, not making
the difference between the two. And now with a right wing populist
government in power, the talk to remove all signs in public jobs (¾)

(e.g. teachers or doctors can’t wear hijabs or turbans). It’s
always followed with a “if they want to live here, they have to follow
our values. If they’re not happy, they should go back where they’re
from.” So no, secularism isn’t a solution. A secular state doesn’t make a
more welcoming society. It’s just using another tactic to be
xenophobic. (4/4 sorry it got long, i have a lot to say about the white
nationalism of my province)

Yup, I certainly don’t exempt religious institutions and people from being bigoted and hateful. I had my own objection to homophobia and bigotry that led me to leaving church, after all. (But not Christianity as a spirituality, despite not believing in God. I consider myself a follower of Jesus’s teachings, I just don’t believe he was God. No more God than everyone else, anyway.) My issue is with so-called secularists who pull the kind of shit you’re describing–selective secularism that is not only objectionable in the first place for being unjustified attacks on personal liberty, but also constitute very thinly disguised xenophobia and assimilationism as well. It’s why I deeply dislike New Atheism/movement atheism which gives cover to this sort of Islamophobia and racism.

Idk about the Poe stuff but Trevorroe did say that about wanting to be true to the original series and a lot of people took it to mean him focusing on. Like, Rey and Kylo. This was before the extent of TLJ’s shit was known. But I mean a LOT of people were angry at that which is why people were happy he got canned. Why else did people think fans of color for the most part didn’t like him?

I didn’t even know about that other stuff, I dislike him for Jurassic World 😂

Ah. I didn’t intend for Ray to ACTUALLY be better than Finn in every way, but for him to believe she was, because Before the Awakening showed him to be insecure, even though Phasma considered him the best. That’s something to fix for the next draft. Thanks for your feedback! All of it is very helpful and eye-opening. (rktho)

Yeah, I figured you were working more with a young man’s insecurities than trying to put Finn down. I’m glad my comments were helpful!

Even if JJ Abrams wanted del toro or Michael Pena to play Khan still isn’t okay because Khan is “a character explicitly described in the episode script of Space Seed as being Sikh, from the Northern regions of India” (via racebending site). Benicio del Toro and Michael Pena are latinos.

The precedent that they were probably trying to emulate was Ricardo Montalban as Khan in the 1982 movie–which was also whitewashing, by the way, as Montalban was a Mexican actor born to Spanish immigrant parents.

Ok, I’m not defending Colin in any way, shape, or form here, but he NEVER said any of that. This has been going on for months where people are making weird shit up about him and his fictional affinity for Poe all because of one article that attributed—as in, guessed it was the reason—the supposed TLJ rewrite focusing on characters like Poe to Colin. No source for that, no source for there even having been a script rewrite to focus on Poe in the first place.

Yeah, I’m not finding sources either, so unless there are some I’m calling bs on Colin the Doomerey.

I personally have faith IX will be good to Finn. Not even because of whether I have faith in JJ or not. What some people forget is that regardless of how much power JJ has, he’s still a slave to Disney. The big difference between TFA and IX is now Disney has realized diversity sells thanks to movies like Black Panther and such. I don’t think Finn’s storyline will be better cause Disney or Lucasfilm cares about diversity, I think it’ll be better for the reason that Disney is an opportunist 1/2

2/3 it’s the same reason they’re bringing Carrie back, and
trying to make both Mark and John excited. At the end of the day Star
Wars has its white base and casual fan base. What they don’t have is the
good will of black fans long time fans, or really any fans that are
diverse. It’s more profitable to have Finn center stage with a good
storyline. Just as it is for Luke with that nostalgia money. Disney
tried to go the nihilistic edgellord way and it blew up in their face
with TLJ.

3/3 I’m not giving IX too much good faith. They could fuck it up
in general. I’m saying that should look at Disney as a business and
makes money these days is diversity and nostalgia. Is it morally corrupt
to only treat people as chess pieces to be manipulated for money? Yes,
but that’s what movie studios do. If IX is smart, they’ll give Finn a
deserving story of a protagonist for the sole reason to gain black fans.
In this time of social politics, diversity done well is a blank check.

Yeah, if nothing else I hope Disney has the good business sense or, just, the ability to read and compare numbers, that leads them to capitalize on the goodwill Finn’s character generated.

What are your issues with my fic? (rktho)

There were the parts where the Stormtrooper cadet Ray pushes Finn aside to run ahead, and where she’s said to be better than him in almost every way. Also his feelings are highly one-sided and we see little evidence that Ray has feelings for Finn or has even treated him nicely. You were probably not aware but these are all common tropes about Finn that fans of color have expressed dislike for.

I was also disturbed that Zeroes, who is a Black guy in Before the Awakening, was described as particularly brutal to the point of wasting ammunition on already-downed simulated opponents. Zeroes’ actual character in BtA is much more cerebral, an intelligence operative type who notices everything that goes on around him and never misses an advantage.

I do like the chilling premise that Stormtroopers were being made to kill their parents by proxy through training simulations, and while the relationship between FN-2119 “Ray” and the Rey that Finn eventually meets is not clear to me I’m guessing her father did something to get her away from the FO. It’s an interesting premise and I encourage you to develop it for sharing from your own account or at archives like AO3.