It’s the only Disney story that they can shoehorn (badly and painfully) into their assertion that abduction and mistreatment equal true lurve.
@rachelica9 Some reylows make that comparison too, and to be fair most of these are shippers who actually recognize how fucked up the dynamics are. There’s actually a reylow/Hunchback of Notre Dame mashup that got positive comments from shippers and non-shippers alike (link, G-slur in the video and general HoND problems). The shipper who gave me heebie-jeebies, though, was the one who insisted Frollo “loved” Esmeralda and talked like the relationship was a positive thing. To be so right and so wrong at the same time…
I’m not sure what crack some of those kink alpha/omega nuts are smoking, but hey, that racist juice gotta em tripping.
Gaston is meant to be a dumb, funny, sexist parody of Disney princes for kids. It’s a kids movie! I mean, yeah it’s a Walt Disney kids movies so it’s still dark as fuck, but he was meant to be funny. Not some…whatever the fuck some people turned him into.
I mean if you guys are looking for a complete monster who was borderline a rapist and racist, and probably the worst piece of garbage ever to grace the Disney screen, just look at Frollo from the hunchback of Notre Dame… seriously besides having the coolest and most epic villain song ever, dude is freaking Satan.
Seriously, if you can find a worst Disney villain than this, damn. He is like OG evil.
Gaston is more like a sexist dumbass who was trying to keep furries out of his town, which is kind of understandable.
But then again he was played by Wolverine… maybe he was an undercover furry.
And on Broadway he’s just a dork.
But seriously if people are legitimately comparing Gaston to Poe or especially Finn! Then you motherfuckers are crazy.
But here’s a Finnrey AU: Anastasia
And for the Reylows:
Don’t act surprised…we all knew it’d come to this
I will say though that the Kylo Ren Gaston parody songs are the funniest things I’ve ever heard
Thanks to @naemerydae who inspired this sithpost
Y’all Frolo is fucking terrifying. I love the hunchback of Notre Dame so much, I watch it all the time. This dude literally told Esmeralda to surrender herself as a sex slave to him or burn. My girl said “guess I’ll die”.
We stan Esmeralda
Rey pretty much made the same choice. Ren offered to be her teacher, and she knew if she surrendered he would take her off-planet, saving her life. Knowing this she still beat his ass just so she could literally lie down to die with Finn.
Maybe because the Legends stuff was kind of a mess continuity-wise? I mean I wasn’t too deeply into that, I just played one of the games, but I am told it got pretty unwieldy in the end. Or maybe they wanted to do their own stuff with the option to pick and choose from Legends material. Of course, in reality they’re already making their own big continuity messes 😂
If your first reason for why J.J. Abrams was chosen as the Episode IX director is basically “he has time on his hands,” then your “analysis” is probably shit and not worth reading.
Not only did he already have an agreement with Paramount, they actually accommodated him so he can work on SW and another studio can’t come snap him up. That’s how busy and in demand he is, that he had to rearrange his entire work schedule and his preexisting agreement with a major studio–a change it agreed to because it wants him so badly–in order to do IX.
Readily available? Fuck outta here. J.J. didn’t come back because he had nothing better to do, he came back because he badly wanted to. And likely, I suspect, because he was begged to.
Bob Iger was banging on JJ’s door with Boyega and Ridley waiting in the backseat of his whip throwing puppy dog eyes at JJ.
🤢 Johnson apologist
So basically Iger is the Rey to JJ’s Luke, while John and Daisy are sharing Chewie’s fur suit and broke the door down? Makes sense to me.
Okay but this just really underlines how desperate some people at Disney/LFL were to have JJ back. Also they must really have offered JJ something substantial to return when he initially said he didn’t want to. And I doubt it is just money, he could get that easier and with less risk elsewhere.
Paramount had every right to keep JJ to the contract he’d signed yet chose to accommodate him on this? Yeah I know Disney is a freaking mastodon, but Paramount isn’t exactly a small time indie company is it? Sounds like JJ is a guy who can pretty much name his projects and conditions as he pleases.
Finally, did this person take a single look at JJ’s IMDB profile and the huge number of projects he’s been involved in since TFA premiered and till now? Like, the man has been the opposite of idle.
I am nearly positive that JJ’s agreement with Paramount came with a penalty clause in case of breach of contract. Either Paramount agreed to waive it because they preferred to modify the agreement rather than have JJ pay it and walk, or Disney/LF agreed to pay the penalty (or whatever portion of it, since JJ wasn’t in full breach) to Paramount so JJ can work on IX. And that’s on top of whatever they’re paying for JJ’s work. Both Paramount and the Mouse want JJ, bad.
I was actually going to leave out the IMDB profile comparisons because a lot of JJ’s credits since 2016 are as executive director, which can mean anything from “I lent the project my big important name without doing anything” to “I did everything that wasn’t anyone else’s job.” With him I’m guessing it was somewhere in between, like bringing money into the projects plus differing levels of creative work. But even assuming he only put in work into half the listed projects, the comparison between him and RJ is hilarious or sad depending on how you look at it. They’re not even in the same playing field.
This is RJ between TLJ and… actually he has nothing after TLJ other than the untitled first movie in the trilogy that has no release date yet, so I decided to be generous and went back 10 years.
And yeah, these are director credits as opposed to producer credits and maybe it is too soon for RJ to be working again or something, except JJ’s been working nonstop after TFA and has a video game that he was creative director for coming out in 2019 in addition to EpIX. RJ doesn’t have anything going on since TLJ, not as a producer, not as a writer or anything else that I can find. But, you know, I bet he’s beat and needs his rest unlike that slacker JJ.
This originally started out as a reblog @thelastjedicritical reblog about continuity and it evolved into this.
I’ve been thinking a lot about if JJ will softly retcon TLJ’s consequences, or what little and few consequences it had.
Considering Force projection have now been brought into the new canon, force teleportation for Luke’s survival and Souls transferring or surviving after the body was destroyed for Snoke’s survival isn’t that far fetched. Both powers existed during the Old Republic era and could be brought into the new canon like how RJ pulled force projection from an old, out of date Legends force power book.
It all just depends on where JJ and Star Wars is going to go after IX.
If IX truly is the ending of everything, then Luke, or at least Snoke, should stay dead. If Star Wars is going to be like the old EU and the MCU, and start telling stand alone stories more, than bringing Luke back as the Grand Jedi Master and Snoke back as a Lager Scope Villain would be a good idea for the series as a whole.
Luke could become the big good of the franchise and stay on Coruscant helping serve the New Republic, which Leia would be named the Chancellor of, while he also rebuilds the New Jedi Order. That way both Luke and Leia can remain in the story, while not getting involved with the many adventures to come in Star Wars outside of cameos and novels. Beyond that, unless where doing a 10 year time skip, Rey isn’t nearly as strong or even knowledgeable about the politics of the galaxy or Jedi to start a new order. I mean there always Ahsoka too…cough, cough.
Even if you agree with Snoke’s death, no one can argue the fact that he was an intimidating villain who seemed a lot stronger than any other character we’ve seen. He could be like the Thanos of Star Wars. Darth Neggings/Benny Boy, and even Hux work as an Antagonists, but not greater scope villains. Snoke did.
I know some would disagree with me, but turning the Star Wars saga into stand alone movies like Marvel would be a better move on the chessboard. We already have Rogue One and there’s a Boba Fett movie coming. I think an anthology series approach would serve Lucasfilms and the fans better.
A Knights of Ren movie with Kylo.
A Mandalorian movie with Finn.
A Black Squadron movie with Poe.
A Jedi Order movie with Rey.
Other standalone movies set in different eras Like an Ahsoka movie, Clone Commandos, Kotor. Then they can all converge in bigger movies together like the Avengers.
I think a major problem Lucasfilms is having with these new movies is that they are trying to emulate the old trilogies formats while also trying to do new stuff like Marvel, and it’s not working.
Just ditch the trilogy format all together and start focusing on the characters and their stories.
If marvel can take a bunch of B rank comic book heroes that only comic fans knew about and turn them into literal box office juggernaut hits and beloved characters, than Lucasfilms can do it for Star Wars.
Sharing screen time like the way they have been doing it guarantees that all these characters will never actually get the character development they deserve without one of them taking it from another. The Dark Knight, Winter Soldier, Logan, Black Panther, they had such great character development for their characters because there wasn’t a million characters to focus on.
In TLJ we had to follow Rey, Finn, Kylo, and Poe, and all of their character arcs. Then there were characters underdeveloped like Rose, Holdo, Luke, Leia, Snoke, Hux, and Phasma. As well as characters completely ignored or not even present like Ackbar, Chewie, R2, Lando, Wedge and the Knights of Ren. And finally we had plot threads entirely dropped like Finn’s origins, Rey’s parents, Snoke’s backstory, Poe’s father and his insecurities, Leia’s family relationships, Luke’s 30 year history since ROTJ, Hux’s relationship with Rae Sloane and his father, Rae Sloane herself, Phasma’s corrupt dealings, the New Republic politics and First Order’s history of what actually happened in the unknown regions of space.
If anyone thinks we’re gonna get all of this settled in one movie, then that shit is either going to be 8 hours long or your high off death sticks.
Lucasfilms should ditch the trilogy format, end this whole Skywalker format and just start making stand-alone movies like Marvel and DC, just please no Joss Whedon.
Lucasfilms is already trying to subtly be like Marvel anyway, spinoffs planned, multiple new projects being produced by different directors… All I’m suggesting is that they drop the formalities and just started doing standalone movies now.
The Anthology approach for marvel isn’t just working either, it’s getting better. Their Movies have gone from all being copy and past generic movies to films to Hiest movies, war movies, action comedy movies, westerners, horror, and dramatic family epics. Meanwhile Star Wars is still trying to copy a format that ended with Revenge of the Sith.
Move on and start evolving. No good ever came from trying to copy the past. Good only comes when we learn and improve from the past.
I mean does anyone seriously believe Disney will stop milking the Star Wars money as long as it can make money?
They’ll ride this train till it burns beyond recognition. So the least they can do is rebrand it so it starts making more money than comic book movies. Back in 2016 Star Wars was king, now they’re just that tired old franchise with 2 racists (Rian Johnson and Kathleen Kennedy) screwing things up.
Yeah the trilogy format has run its course and clearly it’s not what LF is actually doing. This isn’t George Lucas’s show anymore, for better and for worse, they need to do what they need for this new canon–and for those sweet profits, of course.
One fly (two flies?) in this ointment is that two of the biggest stars in the franchise, John and Daisy, have stated they won’t be returning after IX. They went as close to setting it in stone as anything can get in show biz, which I grant you isn’t that final and could be a negotiating tactic. It could also be, though, that these up and coming actors don’t want to be tied to the brand too strongly, especially given its current chaotic management. Either way LF will have to make the deal pretty sweet and run a HECK of a tighter ship if it wants to keep them for future projects and get anywhere near Marvel’s level.
“I think that one of my favorite memories was when they showed [Tiana] to me in color for the first time. It was a surprise. They played this footage for me, and I just started to cry. So moving to me, and so amazing. I had no idea that she would look so much like me. It was such a great, great honor.”