Tag: fandom bs

silveritemine:

lj-writes:

silveritemine:

@lj-writes I’m putting this in a separate post to stop clogging up the notes on that photoset, but seeking me out and then unblocking me to rag on my interpretation of two of my favourite characters is really not classy.

Lmaoooooo I saw your addition on the notes to that post, how’d I have seen it if I’d blocked you? Like I’d seek out your ugly pedophilia defending blog. If I did block you (I don’t remember every Reylo or Kylostan I block, there are too many), rest assured it was Tumblr’s fuckup and not mine that you came off the list.

I’m just tired of Kylostans derailing every popular Finnrey thread, okay? Some things are not about your shitty fave and being nice to Kilo is not a litmus test for Finn’s morality.

Again, ANTI Kylos derailed that thread. It had shit all to do with Reylo or Kylo Ren until they rubbed their paws all over it. For people who supposedly hate Kylo, you lot really are obsessed with him.

And again, you’re really a fan of putting words in my mouth. It’s unfair and it makes you look like an arsehole.

So, if you recognized it as a derail… you decided to FURTHER the derail by making it MORE about Kylo, adding the ugly insinuation that Finn would be pro-abuse and pro-brainwashing unless he empathizes with Kylo. Those are words you yourself put in your mouth, steaming fresh from your arsehole.

You know what, it’s fine if you don’t want Finn and Rey to end up together and Rey to not have a romantic partner. You want your aro representation, your ace representation, your badass male-female platonic friendship representation. That’s your prerogative, go to town with it and have fun!

What you can’t do is pretend that the relative unpopularity of finnrey as a ship in the fandom as a whole is for the sake of this progressive, girl-power, ace-positive representation. You know what’s an actual, canon representation of a platonic male-female friendship? Mad Max: Fury Road. Max and Furiosa, two strangers and enemies, learning to love and care for each other without a flirtatious glance in sight. Now that was a great, non-romantic friendship between a man and a woman.

And guess what the most popular pairing in the MM fandom is by a large margin? Max x Furiosa. Where’s all the ace-positivity and boys and girls can be friends rah-rah feminism there? Nah, fandom is a highly sexualized space that interprets any intense interaction (at least between people that fit the Aesthetic) as sexual/romantic, and it is not predominantly platonic/ace friendly. No matter what you personally want in terms of representing male-female friendship, it does not explain why Finnrey gets so little attention in the fandom as a whole.

So keep your “but platonic friendship!” comments out of posts about Finnrey and fandom racism. Don’t try to make a discussion about fandom biases about you and how good a person you are. We heard it all before, it doesn’t add up, and we don’t give a shit about your virtue signaling and look-at-me-I’m-so-good-ism.

And why do you get so defensive when Finnrey comes up anyway? No one’s saying you personally need to ship Finnrey. We’re talking about fandom in the aggregate, and don’t have the power to make you ship or stop shipping anything. So why do you care enough to derail posts that are not about you in any way?

I suspect you do it because it stings on some level. I think these discussions make you wonder if you, too, might share fandom’s biases. That these large-scale trends might also explain something about you. I suspect you go out of your way to derail, deflect, and defend because you’re uncomfortable.

That’s good. Be uncomfortable. Question your assumptions. (Which is not the same thing as questioning your self-worth and feelings, lmao. You people who try to conflate all personal discomfort with abuse are ugly.) Explore your discomfort instead of running from it, though by all means take whatever space and time you need–there’s no hurry. That’s how you grow. That’s how you learn.

But for God’s sake, learn on your own time without barging into conversations that don’t concern you. Just… stop derailing Finnrey threads. We’re tired of it.

starkylosolo:

I️ DARE one more anti to assume that reylos hate Finn because I️ love and will protect Finn with my entire LIFE!!! TRY ME!!!

It’s not an assumption, which is a supposition without proof. Far from being an assumption, there are documented instances of reylos saying Finn is not a main character, that he’s not a hero, that he’s killed more people than Kylo did, that he’s not good enough for Rey, of them literally erasing Finn from his scenes to replace him with Kylo, using Finn’s lines and story for Kylo… so yes, reylos do hate Finn. Not all of them, no doubt, but enough that many of us feel the need to defend Finn and don’t want anything to do with that section of the fandom. I mean, if you really do feel that strongly about Finn I’d have thought you’d care a LITTLE about this anti-Finn bullshit, but evidently your comically exaggerated outrage is reserved solely for “antis” who are sick of Finn being shat on.

And if you think this is a ship thing, Finn stans regularly call out racism against Finn from Finnreys and Finnpoes, too. But I guess you were too busy being ready to protect Finn with your entire LIFE!!! to notice that he is one of the most unfairly demonized, erased, and ignored characters in this shit fandom, across all ships.

kiriki1:

lj-writes:

kiriki1:

general-0rganaa:

March 15th, 2018… rlos still believe finn isn’t a main character

I’m a reylo and OF COURSE Finn is a main character!! That reylo doesn’t speak for the fandom but only for herself/himself

I agree that no one is responsible for the actions of another. At the same time, you can’t deny that this is the kind of behavior people encounter in the Reylo fandom. It was Reylos who were saying Poe isn’t part of the heroic trio, “Ben” is. It is by and large Reylos who tear Finn’s character down, calling him boring, violent, a clown, unrealistic, and so on. People have bad experiences with your side of the fandom that you may not be personally responsible for. Why is that hard to accept? There’s no call for coming on to a post to be defensive when it’s not about you.

You’re right, i was being defensive when it isn’t about me and i believe you when you talk about people who may ship reylo behaving in such nasty ways about finn. I guess i reacted because i personally have never read any reylo post dissing finn in tumblr and i’ve been in here since 2015, though i’m sure it has happened, i know it has happened on twitter. What i’m trying to say is that the fact that some few nasty people happen to ship reylo, they don’t speak for the fandom, just like there have been anti people being quite nasty as well. I’m tired of the reylo community being called racist just because some people that happen to ship reylo are.

Would you like to see a few?

Look, nobody speaks for “the fandom.” I’m a Finnrey and Finnpoe shipper and anti Reylo, and there are racists and assholes in all of these groups. I don’t go onto posts where people are talking about racism from shippers or harassment from antis to say “I’m not like that!” or “Not all antis uwu.” Their experiences aren’t about me and my morality is not defined by some fucking fandom affiliation.

Also like, nice attempt trying to deflect with “antis are bad too!!” Yes, they are. And?

This isn’t even the first time you’ve pulled this derailing tactic, nor is it even the first time I’ve personally linked you receipts in response to your “see no evil” attitude. This is just a regular thing with you, isn’t it? You derail threads where people are talking about racism from Reylos, claim to have seen nothing bad, and ignore people when they give you receipts. Fuck off.

ohqira:

reynaberrieorgana:

reynaberrieorgana:

Hugs were invented to let people know you love them without having to say anything. 

Just an FYI, this is a romantic FinnRey gifset. I know that’s completely obvious to most, but I don’t need crackshippers trying to derail this post by trying to tag it as besties or brotp. Stay in your lane. Thanks.

In any way i was trying to derail your post and i really sorry if the way i tagged the post offend you. I just love Finnrey (maybe not in the same way as you,but i really do) and i just wanted to have more content of them. Im deeply sorry if i offend you in any way,it was never my intention.

We have to deal with almost every shipping post that leaves our immediate circle being tagged or added to with “I don’t ship them but…” “Brotp!” “Friendship goals” and so on. I don’ t care if you don’t see Finnrey as romantic, just do it on your own posts where you’re not reminding us, over and over, that the fandom loves denigrating our ship.

Also “sorry if I offended, it was not my intent” is not an apology. It’s just a sugarcoated way of saying “that’s not what I meant, why are you so sensitive.”

reyloisrancid:

waltdisneyconfessions:

“I’m a cosplayer and I made the mistake of cosplaying Kylo Ren at a convention in my state. Everything was fine until these two girls obsessed with Reylo started following me almost everywhere. The only place I could get away from them was in the bathroom. Once I was there, I managed to get help from a few other male cosplayers and they helped me get to my hotel room. I’m never dressing up as Kylo again.”

Yikes. At least this has a happy ending. That sucks OP

It’s awful that he was scared away by stalking assholes from something that gave him joy, and that he spent money and time on.

Charles Soule, the PD comics writer, has said he wants to put Poe in a romance and people have said he’s posted Damerey-friendly stuff on his twitter. I don’t see it but people are also saying Poe is looking longingly at Rey in the cover art of that comic, so that might be what your anon means, plus Soule posted he got approval to do something huge and it might be putting Rey and Poe together. I’m a finnrey but I’ve figured out no one official actually likes the ship for whatever reason so idk.

diversehighfantasy:

awesomeswimmer21:

Hello!

Hmmm, interesting, thanks for the information!

Like I said, it really seems as if the supplemental material isn’t taken seriously by the movie people at all, and the movies (both fortunately and unfortunately) have precedent as far as canon goes (and Daisy seemed pretty positive Damerey is not happening in the movies). So if the Soule does go that route, I’ll prob just ignore it.

Thanks for the comment!

I really don’t think he is. He’s bringing the trio together, and certain fans have decided that means damerey.

Here’s the cover art:

Here’s what Soule said about the issue:

The exciting thing here is that the trio that’s never been a real trio before in the films are together post-TLJ, and we learn what all happened with Poe during TFA while the movie followed Finn and Rey.

As usual, fandom is ignoring Finn to advance a ship.

I’m looking at that cover and excuse me, “longingly?” Like… I guess they figure that if a guy is looking at a thin white girl it must be with longing, right? Lmao.

can I just say it’s nice to see an older sw fan who doesn’t support damer*y! I’m sick of all the fandom moms obsessed with it, writing meta about it and ignoring criticism UGH

One reason I decided to put my age and parental status on my header is because I know a lot of fans in my cohort are totally lacking in any self-awareness or receptiveness to criticism, and are trying to pass that off as maturity. WELL IT’S NOT. Obviously they can like what they like even if I find it gross, it’s not like I can stop anyone. What i find unbearable is the way they get condescending about it like their creepy ship is the epitome of intelligence and sophistication. And like I can’t see how some fans seem to think a ship that looks like it was created from two names grabbed out of a hat is better than Finnrey? Honestly fans my age are some of the worst parts of fandom and I’m heartily sorry about it.