Y’all do you that you can like both Kylo and Finn at the same time
Like I am almost tired of saying this. Y’all. Chill out with saying it’s one or the other. That’s stupid.
I like Kylo as a villain. What I can’t stand is that woobified Darth Negging creature that fandom has created, that’s nothing but a whitewashed Finn. Because what they really want is Finn. They just don’t want a Black man to have that character or story, they feel that the white Nazi allegory is entitled to it.
Believe me, I like Kylo just fine. It’s the fandom woobfied creature and his racist stans I loathe with a passions.
Why don’t you go tell these people they can like Kylo without turning him into Finn, without sidelining Finn’s importance and without vilifying the Black male lead?
And since I know “fans” like you and your “this never happens” bs, here’s some receipts for you.
And that’s just me going through the first couple of pages of my Reylo Racism and Reylo Receipts tags. If you want more just go read through those tags yourself.
Some of them seriously say they don’t ship Kylo Ren and Rey, but Benny Boy and Rey. They’re the SAME PERSON, Karen.
Benny Boy doesn’t even like the name “Ben”.
It’d be like Rey calling Finn “FN-2187”.
Does no one understand character development. The only people who knew him as “Ben” are dead or view him as Kylo now.
Reylows fail at their own ship
He only just shanked his father to cement his chosen identity, that’s clearly nothing of significance whatsoever. They dgaf about Kylo as a character either, hence “Ben” “save Ben Solo” “redemption fetus” “he’ll just switch back to Jedi in IX, Finn who continuity what Rey’s agency I don’t know her” “praise Ruin aka R/ylo Ben Johnson!! our only god!!”
No liking him for what and who he is ever to be found. No accepting of his own terrible choices, it’s always someone else’s fault, he got no say on himself poor babby. No Rey switching to the dark side either, if they must ship it. Only mental gymnastics to replace Finn, lbr now.
Woobie Puppet Solo is boring as fuck and only exists for one purpose and one alone: One-upping Finn. Finn was brainwashed and abused all his life to do evil? Well Benny was brainwashed as a FETUS. Finn bravely defected at risk to his life, earning widespread admiration and striking a blow against the First Order? Benny’s going to do it BETTER and COOLER. Finn has an adorable and heartwarming, yet mature and poignant relationship with Rey? Benny’s relationship with her will be an EPIC ROMANCE that will bring BALANCE to the FORCE.
Benny is just whitewashed Finn made up by people who can’t stand the fact that Finn is the male lead, who want their white male OC to outshine him and be the TRUE hero that they refuse to believe Finn is. Benny is an embodiment of classic white whataboutmeism, the belief that they have been robbed if whiteness is not centered. Woobie Ben is a puppet of fandom racism much as he is an imagined puppet of Snoke’s.
I finally spotted her upper body. Some are saying it might be Poe? I say Rey, though, due to size. Then again they’re not far apart in height…
For all we know it’s just a BTS shot out of costume and John could be talking to JJ. JJ wasn’t an attention whore like RJ who put his face on one of the discs of TLJ.
I’m just happy JJ made it JUST Finn/John. I love Rey and Daisy, but Finn is discredited like hell! JJ was subtly letting people know that John/Finn is a big deal in Star Wars.
What a giant middle finger to RJ, putting that VII IX engraving in front while centering Finn in the background.
By the way I saw coverage of this photo saying Chewie is on the far left flanked by Finn who writes like that asdk it’s clear FINN is in the middle flanked by chewie and maybe-Rey?
Yuuup. And the assholes crawling out of the woodwork to scream “sHE WaS grIEvInG” are all that more of a nightmare.
Johnson could have just done something different easily. He just chose to do it in a way that disrespected Finn the most and made Rose a conflict, which was his intention.
The scene could have gone relatively the same way, up until Rose notices Finn’s bag, and Rose can even try to taser Finn, but since Finn is aformer elite Stormtrooper and Rose is a mechanic with no history of combat experience, Finn disarms her easily.
(I would not do that stupid as hell reasoning that someone gave her clearance to stop deserters. Who gives a mechanic with no combat experience the job of guarding escape pods from actual trained soldiers Who are serving in a volunteer militia? Rose could have been serious hurt.)
They could have their same exchange of figuring out their being tracked and Finn could also question Rose on how she even got to the escape pods because something like that should have been sealed off by a high-ranking security clearance and neither he nor Rose should have been able to get in. Rose could say she hacked her way in, a skill she taught herself over the years.
They both realize what this could mean and go to Poe and the three create a plan. Finn will use his knowledge of Snoke’s ship to infiltrate it, Rose will get them through to where she needs to go through hacking, and Poe will go with them as added support and their pilot since they’ll need to be quick on getting in and out of there.
And then boom!
Rose actually has a purpose that doesn’t involve being a conflict to Finn and adds something to the story while still allowing her to grieve
Finn isn’t made a joke out of and reminds the audience that he IS a trained and capable soldier.
Poe is doing what he does best and is breaking the rules to save lives at the cost of his own life.
And even better, now Holdo has to stand on her own two feet as a character without being thrown into conflict with Poe, and get screen time with her life long friend Leia and we can actually learn to care about this character they are going to kill at the end of the movie.
Now Canto Bright is cut and we have more time for character development. We could learn about Finn’s conflictions on fighting in a war against people who were enslaved like him, his desire to free them instead of kill, Rose’s desire to help the Resistance because it’s all she has left after Paige, and Poe’s determination to not let all of the sacfices his family made be in vain.
Plus it makes this picture make more sense.
Whoopsie! There I go trying to make Johnson’s film better.
I’m sorry.
The best thing about TLJ are all the fan fixes of TLJ which make it 100000x better.
I think it’s both. The Resistance is a volunteer militia like the Rebellion before it–there was never any problem with Luke going “awol” to Dagobah instead of meeting up with the Rebels after Hoth. Though Rose was ordered to stun deserters according to the novelization, that doesn’t make it right. It’s doubly wrong in relation to Finn, who had never joined the Resistance and made that fact clear shortly before Rose stunned him.
The racist part comes in where the above is completely ignored and the tasing–which resulted in Finn being thrown into a wall, losing consciousness, and experiencing partial paralysis–is treated largely treated as a joke or simply just desserts for a deserter (which he wasn’t). Fandom constantly shits itself trying to justify the attack, adding another layer of racism in fandom reception.
Hey, as an Asian woman you should obviously recognize that Rose was being Wise™ and Serene™ in her decision to violently suppress the “uppity” black guy.
Argh the trope of the wise guiding Asian woman who exists for the growth of some fucking man can die a fiery death
I don’t want Naomi Ackie to be Lando’s daughter. I’d Naomi Ackie play Finn’s twin sister, a theory I love from @jewishcomeradebot and have Lando have multiple children! They can be a Twi’lek/human hybrid that looks like Twi’leks and others humans. There’s no aliens in this sequel trilogy and TLJ killed off the last iconic one.
There’s nothing wrong with Finn having a badass force sensitive sister AND Lando have an entire military squad of badass daughters and sons.
I’m not about this TLJ exclusion shit where only one person can have a family and be relevant.
Give Finn a family
Give Lando a family
Heck, Keri Russell can play Lando’s half-Twi’lek daughter in body paint and cgi. I’d like to see multiple children too and for them to all look a little different–no way they all look like humans with Technicolor hair.
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