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Tag: finn
watching that video of john tearing up when talking about the day he got cast in star wars and then remembering how horribly lucasfilm treats finn, how rian johnson treated finn like shit in tlj, how finn is constantly shoved aside and ignored in advertising and merchandise, how lucasfilm has 0 respect for john whatsoever, it makes me seethe with anger. john is too good for that shit company and i will always hate lucasfilm for how they’ve treated finn and john
Me thinking about Finn
Favorite trope for @finnappreciationweek Day 4: 👑👑Long-lost Prince Finn👑👑
This is more a fandom trope than anything else, but I still want Finn to be discovered to be a prince captured from his planet as a baby. He returns to his planet after he helps defeat the First Order and he ascends the throne, learning that he is from a long line of Force-sensitive monarchs who have fought for the light in galactic wars.
Drawn on commission by the amazing @cersell. Thank you, Charlie!
Finn Appreciation Week | Day Four: Finn + Tropes
“I really like Finn, but I thought him sacrificing himself would be a really touching end to his character arc.”
A) You’re wrong. So wrong.
B) If you claim to like a character, but then you’re all for him making an absolutely pointless self sacrifice… You don’t like that character nearly as much as you think you do
Okay hang on, I’m all with you on A, but you *can* like a character and still think that them having a heartbreaking death scene would be awesome.
Perhaps I should have been clearer about the fact that this is really about how fandom treats Finn BECAUSE he’s a black character in my original post.
Because fandom has, historically, been full of people who swear they love black characters but can only see them getting an honorable death or making a sacrifice (primarily for white characters).
Fandom doesn’t look at white male characters and decide that they should totally have a sweet send off after sacrificing themselves. They don’t.
That dubious honor is largely only bestowed upon characters of color – predominantly Black characters when they’re present.
(I’m on my way out the door and on mobile so I can’t be handy dandy with links, but if you’re not getting where I’m coming from about Finn’s treatment and why wanting him to sacrifice himself is a negative sign, please go through my “fandom racism” and my “the star wars discourse” for how he’s been treated in fandom.)
^This entire phenomenon is examined at length in Toni Morrison’s Playing In the Dark. In which she pretty much states that in the American literary consciousness, Black people are used (while also denied agency) and once their usefulness has ended, they’re discarded with no forethought/consideration for the Black person/character.
According to Morrison, this is basically the building block of the American literary identity (which has strong parallels to slavery, and the modern prison industrial complex).
“These images of impenetrable whiteness need contextualizing to explain their extraordinary power, pattern, and consistency. Because they appear almost always in conjunction with representations of black or Africanist people who are dead, impotent, or under complete control, these images of blinding whiteness seem to function as both antidote for and meditation on the shadow that is companion to this whiteness –a dark and abiding presence that moves the hearts and texts if American literature with fear and longing. This haunting, a darkness from which our early literature seemed unable to extricate itself, suggests the complex and contradictory situation in which American writers found themselves during the formative years of the nation’s literature” (Morrison 33).
Basically Blackness is alright, as long as it serves whiteness. Anything outside of that is pushing the boundaries. Which is why so much of fandom’s treatment of Finn is him either making Rey and Kyle look better by comparison, or having Finn “die nobly” so Rey/Kyle/everyone else can save the galaxy.
And it doesn’t just stop at Star Wars, it’s pretty much present in all forms of media. I mean, there’s a reason we have a “Black guy dies first” trope.
Morrison also noted elsewhere in her book that the entire white literary identity (and by extension the cinematic identity) is dependent on Black subjugation. If Black people aren’t subordinate to the White identity, then where does that leave White people? There was a reason people were more pissed about John’s face being in the TFA trailer for five seconds, far more than anyone else’s, including Rey’s.
Thank you for that reference @mikeymagee. So much for the jerks who want to pretend it’s all oversensitive Tumblrinas who make an issue of media and fandom racism. The most recent example I saw of the expendable Black character who lives to serve a white character was Wells Jaha in The 100, but there are really too many. I remember first watching The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi and being afraid to be attached to Lando because I was convinced he would die in a way that served the main characters’ stories and not his own. I was pleasantly surprised that this wasn’t the case, but between Saw Gerrera’s terrible arc (or lack of one) in Rogue One and Finn’s sidelining in The Last Jedi it looks like Star Wars still has a long way to go. And that’s not even getting into fandom’s ugly reaction to Finn.

@selfhate-me To answer your honest question, which was incidentally asked in a way that I couldn’t have known unless I came back to the post, see this post I did just now for Finn Appreciation Week. See the second row of gifs where Kylo stares at Finn, Finn stares back, and then Finn–who is already heavily traumatized at this point–nearly jumps out of his skin when Kylo releases the blaster beam from Poe at a structure close to where Finn is standing, blowing it up. I mean if this doesn’t count as canonical interaction or bullying to you idk what else to say.
There’s something pretty wrong imo with Rey asking her friends and allies to work with someone who’s tortured and nearly killed them, to say nothing of having directly ordered the murders of innocent people. She’s putting the extremely uncertain redemption of a war criminal over the safety and well-being of the people who suffered at his hands, and that’s pretty fucked up.
@finnappreciationweek Day 3 favorite relationship: Finn and Kylo Ren
I love the contrast between these two, the way they resolve their inner
conflicts in opposite directions every time. Kylo Ren, in defiance of
the pull to the light, orders a massacre of disarmed prisoners. Finn, in
defiance of the obedience drilled into him his entire life, refuses
that order. Ren punishes Finn by startling him
with the blaster beam. Where Finn reassesses his entire life in light of his trauma, Ren entrenches himself deeper by invoking the legacy of Darth Vader. Han recognizes Finn as a good man, if a psychically wounded one, when he tells Finn to keep the blaster he gave him. He does the opposite with Ren, attempting to take the offered lightsaber before Ren treacherously murders him. The contrast between Finn’s first face-to-face scene with Ren in the movie and his last is clear when, instead of being cowed into fear, he fights back. I look forward to their next meeting in Episode IX when their foil relationship is hopefully given its due.
@finnappreciationweek Day 3 favorite relationship: Finn and Kylo Ren
Finn appreciation week @finnappreciationweek
Day 3: Favorite relationshipIt
was not easy to chose as i love Finn interracting with pretty much everyone.
But I ADORE his antagonistic
relationship with Phasma. She was his commanding officer and while she
disagreed with his decisions when he was a trooper cadet, she saw potential in
him to be an officer. It’s clear that she’s his most direct abuser and was disappointed and “sad” to a level that he left the FO when she believed he could do great things for them. I love how at the end of tfa, he could give her what she deserved, overpower her for once. And their fight, yet cut down, was the thing i was the most excited for in tlj.i’m also biased because john and gwendolyne seems like good friends.