from fire to ice, from silence to screaming with rage and hatred, from masks to glaring into each others eyes, from haunting stillness to violent action, from finn choosing not to fight to kill but to fight to protect who he loves, from kylo calmly and casually displaying his power to desperately trying to kill an (as of yet) untrained jedi, from them sharing a moment across a wide open space to them literally fighting blade to blade
I have honest to God seen every excuse pulled out of every ass for Rose’s tasing of Finn and it’s so tiring. She was grieving! (Doesn’t justify it.) She had to defend herself! (From what?) He was a deserter! (Nope.) He was a traitor! (Nope.) He was… a prisoner? (Whut?)
How about: It was wrong. Why is it so hard to say that Rose tasing Finn was wrong, just like Rey hitting Finn was wrong? It was not instructive for him. (And why are you all so hung up on the idea that Finn had to be “taught” by violence and pain anyway?) He did not need it for his character development.
Just stop with the bullshit excuses. You can love a character who did something wrong. It doesn’t make her an irredeemable monster; it means she has flaws and room for growth.
@infinitepunches Yes, it’s morally wrong to inflict pain and injury on unfounded suspicion when the person is non-threatening and could be given a chance to back down quietly, or even be ordered to the brig under armed guard. At this point the idea that Finn is a traitor was pure speculation and he was not a physical threat. The use of force was unfounded, excessive, and yeah, wrong. And thanks for being Asshat #6,049 to come at me with your contortions trying to justify violent assault, on the VERY POST WHERE I WAS RANTING ABOUT HOW SICK I AM OF THAT SHIT.
Did anyone in the movie ever even say that she was authorized or told by the Resistance leaders to do that? Because I got the impression that she just did that on her own without being sanctioned or told by anyone…
@scorpiokillmonger even if we assume the facts as favorably as we can for Rose, that she was under orders to tase anyone who wanted to leave, it was a wrongful order if it included attacking people who could be made to stand down peacefully (which is a big if, but again assuming for the sake of argument). No one is obligated to follow unlawful orders so the whole “she was just following orders” argument is bunk even under this most favorable set of assumptions. It’s almost like she was in an organization created to RESIST wrongful authority… or something…
I have honest to God seen every excuse pulled out of every ass for Rose’s tasing of Finn and it’s so tiring. She was grieving! (Doesn’t justify it.) She had to defend herself! (From what?) He was a deserter! (Nope.) He was a traitor! (Nope.) He was… a prisoner? (Whut?)
How about: It was wrong. Why is it so hard to say that Rose tasing Finn was wrong, just like Rey hitting Finn was wrong? It was not instructive for him. (And why are you all so hung up on the idea that Finn had to be “taught” by violence and pain anyway?) He did not need it for his character development.
Just stop with the bullshit excuses. You can love a character who did something wrong. It doesn’t make her an irredeemable monster; it means she has flaws and room for growth.
@infinitepunches Yes, it’s morally wrong to inflict pain and injury on unfounded suspicion when the person is non-threatening and could be given a chance to back down quietly, or even be ordered to the brig under armed guard. At this point the idea that Finn is a traitor was pure speculation and he was not a physical threat. The use of force was unfounded, excessive, and yeah, wrong. And thanks for being Asshat #6,049 to come at me with your contortions trying to justify violent assault, on the VERY POST WHERE I WAS RANTING ABOUT HOW SICK I AM OF THAT SHIT.
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