rose stunning finn is absolutely not played for a laugh. it’s a heartwrenching moment for her. your spoilers seem to be misrepresentative. rose is guarding the pods during/after the battle in which paige dies. finn plans to sneak away to find rey. rose is sobbing, but when she recognizes finn she’s AWED. she admires him! it hurts her deeply that while her sister was dying, he’s trying to flee. (also she didn’t ONLY stun finn; 3 others, too.) she’s heartbroken that the cause p died for is losing.

I do not. Give a FUCK. Whether it was heartwrenching. For HER. What the fuck is the matter with you? FINN was the character who was tased into a wall, knocked out, and temporarily paralyzed after almost dying to save the Resistance, and you want to talk about how. Painful. Hurting. Him. Was. For. ROSE? How HE had hurt HER? What kind of ass-backwards victim-blaming bullshit is that?

I also didn’t even say the tasing was played for a laugh. I strongly suspect it was, since fans have reported Finn’s paralysis and numbness to be played for comic effect, but I haven’t seen it myself. I said Rey’s striking Finn down when they first met was played for a laugh. So why don’t you give yourself a pat on the back for not only misreading my post but also, based on that misreading, going on an unnecessary and repulsive spiel about how much it hurt Rose to gratuitously hurt Finn. The fuck?

i cannot fucking believe ryan has his head so far up his own ass he doesn’t understand the connotations of having a black man get on his knees in front of his oppressor and be slapped across the face in the attendance of his former colleagues. people keep talking about the poe slap, which i am also disgusted at, but finn getting degraded on such a grand scale was infuriating. in 2017, ryan and kathy “i don’t want a black man to lead sw but jj changed it” kennedy thought that was a great idea.

This was one of the many reasons I am not giving that crap my money and it will be painful to watch even pirated. I still haven’t decided if I will, I’d still like to live in a world where that thing never existed except in a weird collective fever dream.

At this point I’m even disheartened at the prospect of JJ’s return. Kennedy is still there and still her racist piece of shit self. She greenlighted this hot steaming pile of a movie. Even if JJ wants to give Finn and the other characters of color fair treatment, is she going to let him? And can he fix the mess TLJ made?

I’m looking at reactions for people who have seen TLJ and all I’m getting is people talking about Kylo moments and Relo fuel and nothing about Finn or Poe or Rose and honestly I’m a little worried.

nabyss:

lj-writes:

Maybe people have their own biases, but from what I’ve heard it sounds as though nothing Finn, Poe, or Rose did made the slightest difference to the plot so maybe it’s a natural choice.

You don’t need to worry about canon Rell’o, though, the movie closed that door at least.

On the contrary, because they were keep in the dark by the white leaders, Finn/Poe/Rose made things worse ending with many rebels being killed and them (Finn/Rose) being nearly beheaded. (I choose to reveal this because people should be warned of how fvcking racist if not triggering this movie is.)

So there’s your life lesson, kids: Always listen to the nice white people. Thet know what’s best for you.

thelastjedicritical:

BTW: Imagine they had set the entire ST up from the beginning as the story of a girl that was sold by her parents at the age of 5 and a boy who was abducted by a facist organisation as a baby, who then end up becoming the heirs of the Skywalkers/Solos bc their actual heir is a monster? Coming to the conclusion that Luke and Leia became heroes bc of their characters, not their bloodline, and that thus the priviledged son of Leia and Han who turns into a facist murderer has no right to the legacy, but the abandoned girl and the abducted boy do bc of who they are? 

Guess what, that would’ve been amazing…

OMG DON’T MAKE ME CRY I would have been 100000% behind this version of Rey Random, if they hadn’t tried to make some bullshit mystery out of her parentage.

Have you seen spoilers from the visual direction? It leaked. Someone linked in finn’s tag. Would love your thoughts.

Holy shit I have so many thoughts. Here be spoilers below the cut:

From the Stormtrooper page it looks, unfortunately, like the Stormtrooper Uprising is a bust at least for this movie. The Executioners are not a dedicated unit but whoever happens to be on duty rotation that day to execute a disloyal trooper. It seems more likely Finn is going to get caught and the Executioner is going to try and execute him as a disloyal Stormtrooper (bitch you thought). I still hope Episode IX runs with an uprising and that TLJ will set it up, but I’m not getting up my hopes for it happening in TLJ.

Rose’s community had children stolen by the First Order, interesting! Is this to show the extent of the FO’s destruction and create a bond between her and Finn, or could it be a hint of something more? I’m  leaning toward the former, but it’s fun to speculate. Also, I’m still holding out hope that she’s from Jedhan diaspora and that a lot of Jedhan refugees setled down in the mining colony.

Is it just me or does the Prima Jedi, First of the Order, look a lot like Snoke? Here’s a flipped version of the image in the Dictionary.

Speaking of, I wonder if Luke and Snoke have similar ideas about how to restore balance. Luke’s entry mentions the cataclysmic conflicts that happen every time the cycle changes from Dark to Light and vice versa, and Snoke in the trailer similarly comments on how light rises to meet darkness. Maybe they’re each trying to end the cycle, Luke by bringing the Jedi Order to an end with him, Snoke by…. idk, killing all Force users? Bringing eternal Darkness?

It’s interesting to me that Finn doesn’t put on a full Resistance uniform but rather wears a hybrid outfit of the Resistance bomber jacket and Stormtrooper body glove. He does the same on Crait when he’s wearing I think a Resistance shirt and FO officer slacks? I’ve written before about how he may become a balancing power even if he joins the Resistance, and his wardrobe seems to symbolize that he isn’t given to any organization while taking the strengths from the organizations he comes across. It shows his pragmatic and independent spirit.

And wow, the Resistance really is going into some gray areas with some of the ways they’re surviving this all-out assault. Tasing deserters? Hiding escape pods from aid? None of these actions are evil, but they certainly are ruthless in a desperate situation. Good for them, and fuck the people who say preserving a spark of resistance in the face of a genocidal regime makes them as bad as said regime. But it does raise the question–where does the cycle end?

Rey Skywalker/Solo feels are stronger than ever with this Force bond that’s so emphasized. Either she and Kiln are kin or the franchise is breaking its own rules, and I’m giving them the benefit of the doubt for now to say it’s the former.

And this is a small thing but I called it on the implications of Phasma’s background shown in the Phasma novel and that Finn totally saw through her. Phasma’s description in the Dictionary is practically a summary of that post.

The description of how Luke’s school was destroyed still bothers me. Like, his nephew led the the destruction of the school but the wider galaxy would not know of this calamity for years to come? So the deaths of a bunch of students were just…. covered up? Or does that sentence have a different meaning, that they didn’t mean it was Ben Solo? I still think there’s something there.