Tag: finn

porgsitter:

lj-writes:

porgsitter:

We now know who is most likely the gunner in the Falcon during the Crait attack: Rey

Makes sense, since with his arm length and experience Chewie is the better choice to pilot the Falcon alone. (Well, alone with a random porg on the console. Did they leave Ahch-To in a hurry? New ship’s mascot?)

OMG this would mean Rey is a pilot and Finn a gunner in TFA, while Finn is a pilot and Rey a gunner in TLJ. How neat is that?

Exactly what I was thinking 😉 also Finn’s cheers about the Falcon shooting down tie fighters is him cheering at Rey

And I’ll bet she cheers him too!

porgsitter:

We now know who is most likely the gunner in the Falcon during the Crait attack: Rey

Makes sense, since with his arm length and experience Chewie is the better choice to pilot the Falcon alone. (Well, alone with a random porg on the console. Did they leave Ahch-To in a hurry? New ship’s mascot?)

OMG this would mean Rey is a pilot and Finn a gunner in TFA, while Finn is a pilot and Rey a gunner in TLJ. How neat is that?

awesomeswimmer21:

stormscavenger:

I’m looking forward to this!

Should be cool.

This supports my theory that there is going to be some parallels between Finn and Rey’s storylines. I think they’re both going to struggle with finding their place and identities (which includes learning about the families neither of them knew) and will deal with a personal shoulder angel and devil. 

For Rey I think her “devil” will at least initially be Kylo and her angel be Luke, where Finn will have Rose as his angel and DJ as his devil. However, as the story goes the lines between angel/devil and good/evil are going to get pretty blurred.

This isn’t to say that Luke and Rose will actually be evil and DJ and Kylo will be good, because that still requires the characters to operate under this good/evil dichotomy that Rian apparently wants to eliminate or at least smudge. Therefore, I think this will just mean that Luke and Rose will do things or have motivations that while aren’t evil, are also not exactly “good” while DJ and Kylo will do things or have motivations that are certainly not “evil”. 

I think the experiences will ultimately land Rey and Finn somewhere in the middle as far as being a hero and villain goes. For me, this means that while they will not be “villains” by any stretch of the imagination they aren’t going to be the perfect heroes that the audience may think Rey is or Rose thinks Finn is at the beginning. How this will actually look, I really don’t know.

I’ve speculated about Finn becoming a balancing power in the galaxy, a) neither Resistance nor FO, or b) the leader of a distinct subgroup within the Resistance/Republic, and it’s… the least popular Finn meta I’ve ever written so maybe it wasn’t very good 🤣

My speculation about Rey is that she won’t be a Jedi in the traditional sense but follow a different tradition/strike out on her own path. Not that she’ll be partly evil or something, but that she won’t subscribe to the anti-Dark Side puritanism of the Old Jedi.

I think, in other words, that Finn and Rey will be the Balance together, fundamentally good but unafraid of morally ambiguous pragmatism and owing their allegiance not to organizations but their own consciences, traits they have already shown in TFA.

this-one-guy-over-there:

rose-griffes:

just-a-random-rpg-fan:

diversehighfantasy:

rose-griffes:

This isn’t a call-out post for a specific person. I’ll just call her X. Fan X made a post to complain about mean anti-reylo fans, saying how reylo shippers were being unfairly accused of racism (among other things). She cross-tagged her post with the finnrey tag. (Anyone who’s spent time in the finnrey tag has seen similar posts, yeah?) I sent X a PM, politely asking her to remove the tag. Some people had already commented on the post, asking for the tag to be removed, but it was still there, and I figured a PM might get her attention faster. I mentioned in passing that her post was off-track as well as badly tagged, and thought that would be the end of it. 

Instead it evolved into a conversation where X wanted to prove that she’s a fan of Finn, and she has NEVER EVER seen anything racist said about him on her dashboard from her fellow reylo fans. 

So before I dove back into the conversation, I did a keyword search on her tumblr. One of her most recent reblogs at that moment was a post that talks about how Finn is a beta male and inferior to Rey, and Rey had to save him 100 times, and so forth. (Some of y’all know the post I’m talking about. And no, I’m not exaggerating on the wording of it, that’s literally what it said… along with a bunch of light-and-dark and Romeo-and-Juliet imagery about reylo.)

X hadn’t noticed it. She missed the blatant racism and erasure of Finn as a lead in the post. She liked the pretty wording about how epic reylo is going to be, and that was enough to make the racism not ‘visible’ to her.

That’s what I think of when I see someone say that they’ve never seen anyone being racist in [insert ship or character or movie/show name here] fandom: a fan who will reblog a blatantly racist post that comes across their dashboard, and then have the ignorant bliss to say that they’ve never seen any racism in their section of fandom. 

This is why talking about racism (fandom of otherwise) is so hard. If it’s not a slur or “I don’t like him and the reason, specifically, if because he’s Black and I am a certified racist” it’s not visible to so many people. It just shows how messed up things are in regards to race.

I feel like I’m butting in a convo I don’t know about, so if i am wrong it might be because I don’t know the actual X and their post.

but srsly, since when is ‘that guy is a beta male’ racist if said guy happens to be of a minority race?

I mean, it is rude by itself, calling them a beta male, but it’s not racist (Unless, that is, the writer says ‘he’s [race] so he’s a beta male’, or sth like that

So a common view of “alpha males” is that they’re manly men, dominant, good leaders, etc. And beta males are… not. (Ugh, the kicker to all of this is that the terms come from a debunked scientific theory about wolf pack behavior. Even the author of the study says he was wrong about it.)

Anyway. So Finn, who is played by black British actor John Boyega, gets described as a beta male and the phrase comes across as a semi-subtle way of reinforcing his inferiority to Kylo Ren as a potential partner for Rey. 

The post that X had reblogged also did the more obvious thing by literally stating that Finn is “totally inferior” to Rey. In case we missed the message, I guess.

It’s racist to call Finn a beta male in this context because it’s reinforcing their message that Finn isn’t enough of a man for Rey. You’re correct to guess that the reblogged post didn’t say a word about Finn’s skin color, but that doesn’t mean that it wasn’t racist.

As a bonus, white supremacists have recently fallen in love with the whole alpha male/beta male terminology mess. Alpha males–like Trump!–are to be admired for their leadership. Beta males aren’t “properly masculine,” they’re weak, etc.

I’m white. I’m guessing I could be missing more, so I’m hoping some black fans might add their voices.

(I’m wondering in what context you’ve seen the phrase beta male used, since it’s such a widely adopted one.)

Well, I hear it mostly in the sense of a male that is not dominant (which, I don’t get it. Anyone can be dominant In a relationship, it shouldn’t even be an insult to say someone is not), but what I didn’t (and tbh still don’t) get is that how is it racist to say someone is not a Dom, (if you say that because of their personality traits, not their skin color. As above, if it’s because of the color it’s definitely racist)
Which, well, maybe I’m wrong. I just wanna learn if I am.

Maybe look up “implicit bias.”

Finn In The Last Jedi Speculation

kyberfox:

falconlord5:

Gooood morning Internet! How is everybody?

Miserable? Good.

Today, I want to talk about Finn. Specifically, I want to talk about what he might become at the end of TLJ.

Potential spoiler warning! Join me under the cut at your own peril!

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I really like this and if TLJ runs along these lines it could be a decent movie (depending on the amount of Kale woobification going on)

I have two things I really want to add.

First:

I don’t think we’re going to see Jedi!Finn in this either, I fully agree with you there. Though part of me had hoped that since they seem to be expanding on Force traditions/views of the Force, they would use Finn that way and introduce another tradition via him. Possibly using Maz as a teacher.

No such luck it seems. Unless I’m right about Rose being from Jedha and they’re using her and her background in that capacity. But I’m not gonna hold my breath for this to happen.

Like you, what I could see is Rian (the jackass) further and more strongly hinting at Finn’s Force sensitivity through the movie with a confirmation at the end of it.

I’ve been thinking about how when it comes to fighting/not fighting Finn’s and Rey’s journeys seems to run counter point constantly. He wants to get away in TFA, she’s somewhat committed to fighting (though part of her is still drawn to Jakku).

In TLJ Finn finds his will and desire to fight, while I could see Rey wanting less and less of the fight in part due to Luke’s depression and lack of enthusiasm for training her and her confrontation with Snoke might make her just want to get the hell out of Dodge in the end.

It could be an interesting conclusion to TLJ if it ends on a reverse note than TFA, with Finn being confirmed Force sensitive (possibly by Luke who would have shown up by then) and Rey just really not wanting anything more to do with any of it.

Secondly, about this:

And, to be equally blunt, the Star Wars fandom has a bad case of ‘only Force-Users matter!’ when it comes to characters. Non-Force Users tend to get dismissed or overlooked, and writers in the Star Wars universe have the same problem.

Really, fandom’s problem here stems from canon. Not just the movies which have always centered around Force users and would color the perception of the general audience, but the old EU had the same problem with the overwhelming majority of the material focusing on Force users too.

So much so that it was bound to skew both fandom’s and most of the general audience’s perception of who is important. 

Would I like to see that “fixed” so that non-Force users were seen as equally important? Yes, I very much would. But can’t use a Black character to “fix” that.

Speaking of kelly’s facial expression when she thinks about finn, did you see kelly say finn would be slytherin? What do you think about it?

absolxguardian:

lj-writes:

instathotjohnboyega:

oh i was confused for a few seconds at first (cuz i’d say he’s hufflepuff) but later i remembered how loyal slytherins are.. and finn’s loyalty toward his friends is one of the most powerful and beautiful traits of him. i think kelly thought the same.

Finn “I lied to the Resistance to get my friend” Skywalker is definitely Slytherin material. Finn “I would flood this ship with poison gas before I let the First Order capture me” Starros-Aphra is more than ruthless and cunning enough.

I love how you just gave random theories on Finn’s parentage that fit his hypothetical parent’s traits. Nice touch. Also never considered Starros-Aphra Finn before. Thank you. 

Thanks! That formulation doesn’t work without a last name so I figured why not go for broke. This beautiful fanart by @stitchyarts​ is responsible for my Finn Starros-Aphra headcanon, and I love the idea of Finn as Ciena and Thane’s son, too!

Also something to consider is that Kelly knows Finn through TLJ as well as TFA. I think he showed more than enough Slytherin traits in TFA already, but I wonder if this intensified enough in TLJ for Kelly’s answer to become even more certain. Given that TLJ is supposed to be dark and morally ambiguous, I think that’s likely.