Tag: finn

lamantharp:

Haha to those reylos who ship stormpilot so Rey is free for kylo. Lol have you ever considered Rey is a lesbian, rey is asexual, rey doesn’t want a relationship, rey doesn’t want to be with someone who fucking mind raped her….

Please add on if you have more

Who killed Han whom she bonded with as a father…

Who tried to kill her best friend Finn…

Who committed mass murder…

I mean Rey could be the straightest girl ever born and Kyle could be the last male left in the galaxy and she still wouldn’t touch him except to kick his ass into outer orbit.

What the Phasma novel tells us about Finn

Warning: Phasma book spoilers.

I just read the Phasma novel, which is a fascinating study of how utterly ruthless and selfish she is, how completely dedicated to her own survival at the expense of others, and how there is no one and nothing she would not betray to further herself. It’s about peeling back the layers of a seemingly perfect First Order warrior to show her morally empty core, and with it the rottenness of the First Order itself.

The novel shows with unsettling clarity that, under all the pretty words about the ideals of justice and order, the First Order is a place where actual idealistic soldiers are used and then thrown away (see: Finn, Cardinal) while backstabbers, abusers, and murderers like the two Huxes and Phasma are actively shielded and rise to the top.

I’m especially excited because of what this means about Finn. It means the scene in The Force Awakens where Phasma lowers the shields under duress isn’t a plot hole or luck. Rather it means Finn is a fucking brilliant reader of people who knew that Phasma was only for Phasma and would choose her life over the First Order and the lives of her fellow soldiers in a heartbeat.

This truth about Phasma, by the way, took the characters in the Phasma novel a visit to a post-apocalyptic hellhole, hours of torture, a cat-and-mouse game between captor and prisoner, 400 pages of storytelling, plus lives and careers destroyed to uncover. Yet somehow Finn figured the same thing out on his own despite only knowing Phasma as a godlike exemplar of First Order ideals.

It also shows, as I’ve pointed out above, how intertwined Phasma’s nature is with the First Order itself. It only makes sense, since people tend to thrive in organizations that reflect their values–or lack thereof. Once Finn woke up to the great lie of the First Order it would have been much easier to see through the lesser lies about its leaders.

Finn’s ability to smash the idols that were built in his mind saved the Resistance and preserved hope for the galaxy. He can’t be fooled with smoke and mirrors anymore, even the mirror of Phasma’s armor. There is a certain pain in shedding a comfortable cocoon of lies, but he has gained in exchange an honest reckoning with the truths of the world and it was the salvation of billions that could have perished from Starkiller Base.

Another thing the Phasma book tells us is that she is going to be a HELL of an enemy to face in combat. I’m so looking forward to the duel in TLJ!

sithchirrut:

skispeeders:

ok time to put the sw tin foil hats on gays!! after the trailer i truly believe finn starts a stormtrooper uprising in the fo based on 3 shots so here we go

so in the trailer we have 3 main shots of finn and phasma fighting! they look rad as fuck but after closer examination™ i noticed the stormtroopers in the background, but they weren’t rushing to join phasma’s side, even tho they can clearly see them fighting

what’s also puzzling is why they aren’t at least one of them aiming their guns at finn?

from that gif it’s obvious they’re fighting on a fo base/ship, with the at-st and tie fighters being destroyed from explosions all around them. but what are the troopers shooting at? there isn’t any resistance fighters visible in that shot so?? are they just stupid and shooting at the fire???

even w this gif there’s a trooper on an at-st walking away from their battle…

this makes me believe finn and rose infiltrate the fo and somehow reverse the reconditioning on a squadron of troopers.

earlier this year sw stated that there will be the first slicer (hacker) in this movie, which makes me believe rose is the hacker. if rose could hack the system the fo uses to recondition troopers, it would make sense why she would have such a new and prominent role in this movie.

at this point i’m grasping straws but i think if they were to reverse the conditioning on a squadron it would be the squadron finn was apart of.

it would be a powerful scene – a group of troopers being able to think and decided for themselves, and finn letting them have a choice of staying or fighting, like finn has in tfa (bc finn would never force them to fight).

so basically what i’m saying is that finn leaves a rogue squadron to fight their abuser, and while finn faces phasma rose and the other troopers place explosives and ward off other troopers to come help phasma. thank you for coming to my ted talk

Okay, but I need to add something re: reconditioning.

I’ve talked about before how we see a guy – Agent Terrex – in the Poe Dameron comic be turned into something like a human droid for disobedience. Now Terrex is an all round bad guy who gets put through the process because he’s too valuable to lose, but he keeps putting his own goals over those of the FO and hence can’t be trusted.

Now the comic doesn’t actually use the word reconditioning for this process, but it makes a lot of sense if it is.

And it literally turns the people who undergoes it into human droids – think Lobot like – that are programmable. Programs that we in a later Poe comic see can be over written and maybe even reverse or the implant used for the control removed.

Remember, Rose is a mechanic and – and here’s an interesting thing – she and Finn goes hunting for “DJ” who’s a slicer. Now he would be able to reverse those programs if anyone are. Or its a joint effort between the two, idk.

And yeah, some of the Stormtroopers who have undergone reconditioning might be like Terrex, but there’ll be quite a few “Finns” in there too. Liberating them, giving them a choice to fight back, that would be an epic arc and scene indeed.

I love this! While the Stormtroopers might not all be reconditioned, the ones who were are likely to be the ones who had the most independent ideas (whether moral or amoral, as exemplified by Finn and Terex) but were too valuable, that is skilled, to lose. And they would have some Grade A beef against the First Order if they didn’t before. They would make an excellent and motivated core fighting force for the uprising that the others could rally around.

sithchirrut:

The Phasma novel tells us that the children the FO takes for the Stormtrooper forces are the forgotten children in the world. They’re orphans, abandoned or the children of those so disenfranchised that they cannot protect their children and the FO takes them. 

This got me thinking about Jedha and the Jedhan diaspora – you’re never going to convince me that part of Jedhan culture and people didn’t survive. They would have been very vulnerable to be preyed upon having perhaps no real home and it’s likely the New Republic would have forgotten all about them. 

So… Finn as the son of some of Jedha’s survivors, taken because they had no means to protect him, to keep the FO at bay. Who finds out where he comes from, about all that his people have suffered. That not only did the original Empire destroy his people’s home – first by oppression and stripping it of its resources, then scouring its surface in a test of the original Death Star – but that the First Order then saw fit to target them again, to take their children, their future.

Finn eventually returning to them after the war, with some of the other freed Stormtroopers – some who have Jedhan family too and some who just don’t know where else to go – both angry at what his people suffered, but also shy and uncertain of what reception they’ll get.

The Jedhan diaspora has done what Jedha has always done, survived in the face of the impossible, overcome adversity and though they never forgot their pain or those they had lost, determined to prosper all the same.

Finn and the former Stromtroopers being received with joyous welcome, as long lost Jedhan even the ones who had no family ties. (One part of Jedhan culture was that any who came and settled permanently, who learned the ways of Jedha, was seen as being as Jedhan as any who was born there).

Finn finally seeing his family, for the first time in his memory. Meeting his mother and father and grandparents, all his sister – who had been deemed too old for indoctrination and that was what saved them – and his younger brother, born after the Jedhans learned how to hide their children.

His family hugging and kissing him, and him hugging and kissing them in turn, all of them crying with joy of finally being reunited.

Finn learning the ways of the Force the Jedhan way, which is varied and manifold. Where you find the path that fits you, instead of being forced to fit the path set before you. 

Finn finally finding home.

leg-grestrade:

Interesting that the people who have been clamoring for finnrose are so giddy at the reylo implications in the trailer that they don’t seem to mind that Finn got about five seconds of airtime and Rose wasn’t shown at all. Odd 🤔

How very mysterious. It’s almost like Finnrose was a front and never represented a genuine interest in Finn or Rose.

Finn moments in The Last Jedi trailer

themadlovesofophelia:

lj-writes:

I’m super fucking stoked by Finn’s appearances in the trailer. Maybe it’s my theory goggles that Finn is going to start a Stormtrooper uprising, but it seems to me Poe’s line that “We have a spark that will light the fire that will burn the First Order down” is a direct reference to Finn and the possible Stormtrooper rebellion. What’s more, Finn shows up directly after that line, surrounded by, hmmmm, FIRE as he duels Phasma.

Poe seems to be speaking with repressed anger or sorrow (my God Oscar
Isaac’s delivery help me Obi Juan whoever the fuck you are), indicating
that this was spoken in a moment of conflict whether within himself or
someone else.

Could Poe’s clashes with Leia have to do with how to respond to the possible uprising? Did Finn convince Poe into letting himself and Rose to go on a rogue mission and into possible death, a choice Poe is himself conflicted about? Is that why Leia slaps him, when she finds out what he’s done?

Finn, by the way, is not carrying a lightsaber but some kind of energy pike weapon that seems to work similarly to the baton FN-2199 used against him in the battle on Takodana. It not only looks freaking badass, it has a great reach, versatility and can stand up to lightsabers, too.

Also the all-black ensemble with a glowy energy weapon…. is anyone going to comment on the similarities with Luke in ROTJ? As I said in my reply to @diversehighfantasy, I see parallels with Luke in my TLJ speculation for Finn, too, particularly my wildly speculative ending.

Furthermore, when Snoke starts saying “Fulfill your destiny” the first shot is directly on Finn, although I think the line itself is said to Rey or Kylo. Is this a sideways reference to Finn’s liberating Stormtroopers being his destiny?

Is it too late for you to write The Last Jedi? I want this so much!!!

Just waiting for Kathy Kennedy to call… any minute now…

What does it say about this franchise that I keep being told that my speculations about Finn leading a Stormtrooper uprising, freeing enslaved soldiers and children, and finding his family will never happen, while on the other hand thousands of fans are encouraged in their fervent belief that Rey and the mass murderer who tortured her will fall in love and produce Aryan superbabies together?

finnapologist:

I cannot wait to see Finn get angry. Finn who was raised to do one thing and got nothing to fight for, who was driven by fear and is now facing the person he was once obligated to obey to and call “captain”. I can’t wait for John to give a performance way above the standards of blockbusters movies and remind us once again why he’s a star and the most promising actor of his generation. I can’t wait for him to destroy, to burn the first order from the inside, wearing their uniform and using their weapon and turning it against them, getting his well-deserved revenge and taking a step further in his quest for his own identity. I can’t wait for him to defy the organisation that took him away from his family and stole everything from him, tried to turn him into something that wasn’t human and had no sense of self. I can’t wait for him to be the triumphant hero he’s going to be, the spark that will light the fire that will burn the first order down.