Why Rose could still be Jedhan

Yes, I know, she’s from Hays Minor in the Otomak system, but Hays Minor was a poor mining colony, a frozen wasteland only settled for its mineral resources. Even before the First Order took it over and systematically destroyed it Hays Minor was a harsh place, with no indigenous animal species and temperatures so lethal people couldn’t go outside without special protective suits. It’s not the kind of place where people dream of raising their families, but someplace people go because they have to make a living–and, if they have young children, because they have nowhere else to go.

And what was Jedha known for? Force religion, sure, but also for mining kyber crystals. It would have been home not only to believers and clerics, but also to skilled miners experienced at extracting these invaluable resources. And also to violent partisans, of course, a backlash to the Empire’s anti-religious repression and ruthless exploitation of the area’s resources, but for now let’s look at more ordinary citizens just trying to go about their lives.

Imagine you are a miner on Jedha.

You were fortunate enough to survive the blast of the Death Star. Maybe you escaped into space like the Rogue One crew did, or maybe you didn’t live in the Holy City–maybe you were working on a mine elsewhere. Even if you were not in the City or its outskirts, though, you have to get out eventually because the blast is breaking the whole moon apart, kiling your world. You’ve lived on Jedha for generations and have no ties anywhere else. Where do you go?

The galaxy is wide, but the reach of the Empire is long. The stigma of being from Jedha clings to you and comes back in the form of refusals to let you settle, even violence from the authorities or from neighbors. Maybe one of the excuses is that you’re a terrorist, because your origins are associated with the memory of the partisan zealots who held out against the Empire in a mountain fortress until their violent ends.

Maybe you settled on other, more hospitable planets only to be driven out, losing everything you built and barely escaping with your life. Others were not so lucky. Maybe you learned to change your dress and customs so you would not stand out, learned never to talk about Jedha so you would not draw unwanted attention. Even your spouse might not know, if you met them after Jedha. (All things in your life are divided into before and after Jedha.) Maybe your spouse is from Jedha, too. Maybe you met them in the diaspora, which is bittersweet because you never would have met and fallen in love on Jedha. The two of you agree that it is best to stay silent about the home whose name still echoes in your hearts. Survival comes first.

You never talk to your children about Jedha. You don’t tell them what the ceremonies you hold from time to time mean, religious ceremonies from home that you carry on in secret, mourning what can never be again.

Maybe you even fought in the Rebellion yourself, finally free to shout and scream and sob the name of Jedha when you run into battle, a cry for justice. It hurts every time to say it but you do it anyway, letting the name tear your throat and your soul, Jedha, Jedha, Jedha, so you will not forget, so the world will not forget.

Maybe, despite using the name as a rallying cry, the other Rebellion fighters did not always look kindly on you and the other Jedhan fighters. The whispers of “extremist” and “fanatic” still cling to you, and the same people who say “May the Force be with you” to each other may find your ways in the Force strange. There are a thousand glances and words that cut and every time you have to wonder, is this because I’m Jedhan? You try not to be so sensitive. You pick at the meanings behind meanings, trying to disentangle the threads that trip you up. You hope for a better galaxy anyway, and that’s what you’re all here for no matter where you’re from, right?

When the Empire collapses you rejoice and weep, and say a prayer of thanks. There can be justice at last, and better days for the Jedhan refugees. The New Republic promises to do right by you and the Alderaanians, to all the people who lost everything to the Empire.

The promises, fragile and hollow, break under strain. You, like much of the Jedhan disapora, are vocal against the truce with the Empire’s remains, warning they’ll be back. You are called warmongers and extremists. You and your fellows ask for the New Republic‘s assistance with resettlement, demand that the Empire officials’ riches from the lifeblood of your people and peoples elsewhere be returned to the Jedhan diaspora and so many others displaced by the Empire. You are called greedy and a nuisance.

You are still not welcome anywhere, and if anything seem to be an inconvenience to a universe that wishes to move on and forget. You drift, body and soul, without a home, and survival becomes increasingly more pressing as your family grows.

Then you hear about a mining colony far out in space–an inhospitable place, a deadly place actually, but they’re looking for people and they can use your skills. Maybe you even hear of it through the refugee grapevine, and other Jedhans are going so it’ll feel a little like home. Nothing will ever be home, but it’s a living and a community. You could do worse than that.

So you raise your daughters on a frozen planet, in a shelter specially shielded to keep the planet from killing you all. You watch them play in the artificial light, happy and smiling and alive, and you are content. You are luckier than many, so many that you will carry to your grave.

You don’t talk to your children about Jedha, the old fears locking your lips, not wanting them to go through what you had to as a Jedhan. When you and your spouse make them matching medallions you tell them they represent the twin planets of Hays Major and Hays Minor. In your heart of hearts you think of them as being Jedha and NaJedha, orbiting each other even in ruin. You hope your daughters’ lives will be better, not touched and tainted by destruction as yours was. Maybe that’s another reason you don’t want to tell them about Jedha, because you don’t want that shadow over their lives.

And Hays Minor has been good for your family, after all. Your daughters can do worse than think of a community of courageous, hard-working, honest people as home. This is enough. Not perfect (not Jedha, never Jedha) but enough, and maybe you’ll save up to move to a kinder planet where life isn’t quite so harsh, a place where your eldest can see and touch the animals she’s always talking about, where she and her sister can stand in the sun and breathe unfiltered air.

Your dreams and your heart shatter when a Star Destroyer blots out the sky over your home a second time. They will be back, you and your people warned the galaxy. You just didn’t think, never let yourself imagine, that they would come for your home and your family first. Not again.

Rose’s character has a lot of potential. Even though Kylo Johnson wrote her so lazily and offensively, she can still be redeemed and if in Episode IX her behavior is explained by “she was going through grief and not in her right mind” it would be believable. I just want Rose Tico to be the amazing character I know she can be

Oh yes, there’s a good character in that mess of incoherent writing. The Episode IX team would go a long way toward fixing the mistakes Johnson made with her character if they retcon out the bullshit morality lessons and make it clear some of her actions in TLJ were a) reactions to her trauma and b) deeply wrong.

I mean, I don’t think TLJ Rose needs to be necessarily out of character or to have been in an altered state. People can do terrible and destructive things out of grief and pain. The important thing is to make amends and process these emotions appropriately, not to say “That wasn’t me!”

Have you seen spoilers from the visual direction? It leaked. Someone linked in finn’s tag. Would love your thoughts.

Holy shit I have so many thoughts. Here be spoilers below the cut:

From the Stormtrooper page it looks, unfortunately, like the Stormtrooper Uprising is a bust at least for this movie. The Executioners are not a dedicated unit but whoever happens to be on duty rotation that day to execute a disloyal trooper. It seems more likely Finn is going to get caught and the Executioner is going to try and execute him as a disloyal Stormtrooper (bitch you thought). I still hope Episode IX runs with an uprising and that TLJ will set it up, but I’m not getting up my hopes for it happening in TLJ.

Rose’s community had children stolen by the First Order, interesting! Is this to show the extent of the FO’s destruction and create a bond between her and Finn, or could it be a hint of something more? I’m  leaning toward the former, but it’s fun to speculate. Also, I’m still holding out hope that she’s from Jedhan diaspora and that a lot of Jedhan refugees setled down in the mining colony.

Is it just me or does the Prima Jedi, First of the Order, look a lot like Snoke? Here’s a flipped version of the image in the Dictionary.

Speaking of, I wonder if Luke and Snoke have similar ideas about how to restore balance. Luke’s entry mentions the cataclysmic conflicts that happen every time the cycle changes from Dark to Light and vice versa, and Snoke in the trailer similarly comments on how light rises to meet darkness. Maybe they’re each trying to end the cycle, Luke by bringing the Jedi Order to an end with him, Snoke by…. idk, killing all Force users? Bringing eternal Darkness?

It’s interesting to me that Finn doesn’t put on a full Resistance uniform but rather wears a hybrid outfit of the Resistance bomber jacket and Stormtrooper body glove. He does the same on Crait when he’s wearing I think a Resistance shirt and FO officer slacks? I’ve written before about how he may become a balancing power even if he joins the Resistance, and his wardrobe seems to symbolize that he isn’t given to any organization while taking the strengths from the organizations he comes across. It shows his pragmatic and independent spirit.

And wow, the Resistance really is going into some gray areas with some of the ways they’re surviving this all-out assault. Tasing deserters? Hiding escape pods from aid? None of these actions are evil, but they certainly are ruthless in a desperate situation. Good for them, and fuck the people who say preserving a spark of resistance in the face of a genocidal regime makes them as bad as said regime. But it does raise the question–where does the cycle end?

Rey Skywalker/Solo feels are stronger than ever with this Force bond that’s so emphasized. Either she and Kiln are kin or the franchise is breaking its own rules, and I’m giving them the benefit of the doubt for now to say it’s the former.

And this is a small thing but I called it on the implications of Phasma’s background shown in the Phasma novel and that Finn totally saw through her. Phasma’s description in the Dictionary is practically a summary of that post.

The description of how Luke’s school was destroyed still bothers me. Like, his nephew led the the destruction of the school but the wider galaxy would not know of this calamity for years to come? So the deaths of a bunch of students were just…. covered up? Or does that sentence have a different meaning, that they didn’t mean it was Ben Solo? I still think there’s something there.

You Don’t Split Sisters Up

Characters: Rose Tico, Paige Tico, OC
Pairing: No romantic pairing; sisterly bonding
Summary: Rose is not chosen as a member of Cobalt Squadron. Paige intervenes. (I’m 99% sure the sisters’ background and parts of Rose’s personality are AU given recent information, but hey.)
Warnings: Mentions of mass death near the end; mood whiplash. Yes, this is the same universe as Don’t Stop. Yes, I am terrible.


The office door hissed open. “Commander! Can I have a word?”

“Space, Tico. Can’t you see I’m working?” Commander Torel of the Republic Navy looked from the star map on their desk to the gunner who had barged into their office.

“It won’t take a minute.” Paige Tico sauntered into the room, the flaps of her aviator’s hat swinging in time to her gait.

Running steps reverberated down the hall outside just as the door began to close, and it hissed open again to admit a shorter, rounder figure.

“I’m so sorry Commander. I’ll take care of this right away.” Rose Tico from maintenance took her sister’s arm. “Paige!”

Paige spun to her sister “Oh come on, you know you have higher scores than any mech who made the squadron-”

“That doesn’t give you the right to question-”

Torel massaged the bridge of their broad nose before barking: “Attention!”

Both women stopped and stood straight as though to pierce the ceiling with their heads.

“At ease, Tico. And… Tico. One at a time. Lieutenant Tico, you first.”

Paige, her hands behind her back and arms akimbo, looked straight ahead. “Commander. We recieved our new postings today.”

“I saw you made Cobalt Squadron, Lieutenant. Congratulations.”

“Thank you, Commander. But…” Paige gave a sideways glance at Rose, and their eyes met in a silent but furious argument.

Torel pulled at one their chin-length braids. “And Sergeant Tico, you are posted to…?”

Rose’s eyes snapped forward before she supplied: “Royndul Shipyards, Commander.”

“She volunteered for Cobalt,” said Paige.

“I don’t recall asking, Lieutenant.”

“But you know how good she is!” Paige burst out. “She’s better than any of Cobalt’s maintenance team.”

“The Navy makes its personnel decisions based on a number of pertinent factors. The shipyards need skilled mechanics of Sergeant Tico’s caliber.”

“Our mother has been talking to the brass, hasn’t she.”

Torel paused, then cleared their throat. “Senator Tico had a point. Navy policy discourages family members from serving in the same unit.”

“In wartime, but we’re not at war.” Paige relaxed her pose and her voice took on a wheedling tone. “Come on, Commander. You know how well we work together, the Tico sisters as a team. You can’t split us up like that–not you, not the Navy, not even our mom. Pleeeeease?”

“Not the sad Ewok eyes, Tico. Not the Ewok eyes.” Torel raised their hands and turned away from her. “I swear to Force you’ll be the death of me.”

“Commander.” Rose’s fingers twisted around each other behind her back. “I apologize for my sister’s behavior, but… if you could put in a word for us it would mean a lot.”

“Sergeant Tico.” Torel turned a little too quickly to her, as though they had forgotten she was there. “You do solid work and your performance evaluation is sky-high, I’ll grant that. But Cobalt Squadron is a different kind of posting than working here on base. We all thought you’d be happier close to home on Hosnian Prime.”

“I know I don’t look… adventurous. Glamorous. Not like Paige.” Rose ducked her head. “But being with my big sister gives me courage, and I think maybe I give her courage too?” She looked sidelong at Paige, who gave a huge nod.

Galvanized, Rose met Torel’s gaze head on. “Please, at least put in a recommendation for me to make Cobalt Squadron. I won’t let you down.”

Faced with two pairs of sad Ewok eyes, Torel threw their hands up. “All right. I’ll put in a word, but that’s all I can do. Now get out of my office.”

“Thank you, Commander!” “You’re awesome, Tor!”

“Out.” Torel pointed a finger at the door, though their lips quirked in a smile.

The sisters saluted at the same time and almost raced each other to the door. The squeals and the hugging erupted before the door entirely closed on them, and Torel shook their head before sitting back down at their desk.


"I told you they’d cave!” Paige pumped a fist as she walked down the corridors with Rose. “Tor’s a good sort, I knew it. You were great in there.”

“I thought you were gonna get both our asses thrown in the brig, spacehead.” Rose poked her sister in the ribs, prompting her to shriek and shrink away with both hands out in defense.

“Well it worked, didn’t it?” Paige resumed walking, wary eyes still on Rose.

“Well, maybe? We’re not out of the sandpit yet.”

“Trust me, I have a good feeling about this. I mean, I am your big sister who gives you courage, right? Right?” Paige pounced on Rose and bent her into a headlock.

“Ack, you bitch! I take it back! I take it back!” Rose threw her hands out to tickle Paige’s sides, prompting a scream of laughter.


And later, when Cobalt Squadron was on alert after an unidentified beam was seen heading for the Hosnian system, the sisters stood wordlessly by a viewport to watch it pass far away in space, fingers entwined in each others’ as they felt their world change.

And later, when they were collapsed to the floor with the weight of the news from Hosnia, they held on to each other as they screamed out their sobs and called for the ones who would never answer again. Each was the only part of the other’s world that was left and they clung together with all their strength, never to be split apart.

Is the “princess” actually Rose?

So I know this might sound wild, but hear me out! I kept thinking about Adam Driver’s recent comments to GQ about a princess hiding who she is in order to survive. The exact quote is:

“You have, also, the hidden identity of this princess who’s hiding who she really is so she can survive and Kylo Ren and her hiding behind these artifices.”

The immediate conclusion people drew was that he was talking about Rey’s origins, and I would be as happy as anyone if this means she is Leia’s or Luke’s daughter.

However, that seems to me a little too easy? And a violation of his NDA if this was an unauthorized comment? Make no mistake, the current promotional blitz is a carefully orchestrated event. The GQ interview and the other media appearances aren’t hard-hitting journalistic pieces on a search for the truth of a galaxy far, far away. They’re meant to sell the movie to us in a way LucasFilm has planned and approved. Unless Driver is currently being sued for all he’s worth I don’t buy that he let a spoiler slip.

It also doesn’t quite fit. Rey isn’t hiding who she is, her identity was hidden from her. There’s also no indication that not knowing her own identity helps her survive or hide.

There was also speculation that the line referred to Leia, but this also doesn’t fit because everyone knows who Leia is–a princess of Alderaan by adoption and the daughter of Anakin Skywalker and Padmé Amidala by birth. The revelation that her birth father was the hated Darth Vader derailed her political career years before TFA started.

What if the princess is Rose Tico? Here’s what we know about her: she works in maintenance, she is a “nobody,” her home was destroyed by the First Order and, according to the book Star Wars Made Easy, “she has a tragic past that she prefers to keep hidden.”

This last part has prompted speculations that Rose is a former student of Luke’s and survived the massacre of the Jedi school. But what about the part where her home was destroyed by the First Order? I guess one could say the Jedi Temple was her home, but we know that she has a sister, Paige, so she has or had an origin family. Wouldn’t it be more natural to say this family’s home was her home? Did the First Order destroy her school AND her family’s home? I mean that seems a bit much to me.

What if we assume instead that the destruction of her home and the tragic past are connected–her home was destroyed, and this is part of her tragic past? Running with the princess theory, she was royalty on her home planet but it was destroyed by the First Order, and she had to go into hiding as a result.

We know from the Princess Leia comic that the Empire targeted the surviving Alderaanians after destroying their home planet. The First Order is certainly not above such tactics, especially when any surviving members of the former leadership may be a threat to their rule.

Rose as a lost princess, in other words, fits the description of a princess hiding her identity to survive and also matches our scant prior knowledge of her. Even Kelly Marie Tran flatly stating that she’s not royalty could be read as a deflection that is not quite a lie–it was said in the present tense, and from a certain point of view (cough) royalty with no power and nothing to rule is not, in fact, currently royalty beyond a title.

Now think about the courage it took for a Princess Rose, marked for death by the same organization that destroyed her home planet, to run not away from danger but into it by joining the Resistance like a certain other Princess we know of. Think of how her story would affect Finn, whose internal conflict in TLJ is whether to stay and fight or to run.

To get even farther with the speculation, what if Rose’s destroyed home and the home Finn was taken from are the same? What if they are bound by the ties of a common origin, even the ties of family?

I would die of joy if we have Princess Rose and her knight Sir Finn, or Princess Rose and Prince Finn as brother and sister. Even if it’s not canon it’s a really fun piece of speculation.

And if you’re outright dismissing this theory as crack, why is that? If you’re willing to believe a scavenger can be a princess, why not a mechanic?

I’m so nervous for Finn’s fate in tlj. rian can try to deny it all he wants but i really do think they sideline him in order to give k*lo bigger shine. he’s obviously a big supporter of woobifying him while actively giving poc no time to shine. rose has SO much potential but it looks like we won’t be seeing much of her as it stands. it’s all making me sick to my stomach. i’m also scratching my head bc he baits fans with finnpoe art and the like but clearly doesn’t care. what do you make of it?

Rian has certainly done nothing to soothe such anxieties, though from what little they’ve shown of Finn in the trailer I’m excited for his role.

John discusses learning from the Star Wars marketing in making decisions about the Pacific Rim Uprising teasers and trailers, which is both encouraging and discouraging. On the one hand he talks about keeping Mako Mori in reserve for future teasers due to her popularity, which gives me hope that Finn, Poe, and especially Rose are being similarly kept in reserve and that some of their appearances are simply too spoilery to show in advance.

On the other hand John also says, “you have to make sure you describe as much of the [moviegoing] experience as possible in the trailer. That’s why people pay for a ticket.” This is what fans who are disappointed with the trailer have been saying all along, and if that’s what the TLJ trailer is trying to do it’s really not a good sign for the movie.

Besides, even the idea of keeping Finn and Rose back for future promotion rings increasingly hollow when the release date is so close and, as far as I can tell, we’re really really late in the game to be talking about building excitement by showing important characters late in the promotional cycle. PRU is a different story because it’s slated to be released in March of 2018, not December of 2017 like TLJ.

I’m at a stage when I’m preparing myself for disappointment while hoping for the best. Nothing Rian has said or done has given me confidence. It would be nice to be pleasantly surprised, but it would still be a surprise the way things are going.

I’m also not going to watch TLJ until and unless a trusted fandom friend gives me the all clear. No way am I spending money on a fascist woobifying piece of shit movie, if it should come to that.

Don’t Stop

Characters: Rose Tico, Paige Tico, Finn

Pairing: Finn/Rose

Warnings: Violence, angst

Summary: Finn and Rose have to save the Resistance. Paige gets in the way.

They fled down the length of the hangar with the sound of pursuit in their ears, their speeder hurtling toward the far entrance and the promise of their goal.

The discharge of a blaster shattered the air. The speeder screamed like an animal as it skidded along the floor. Rose wrestled with the handlebar trying to regain control while Finn, an arm still tightly clenched around Rose’s waist, had his blaster out and fired back at the source of the blaster fire.

Rose wrenched at the handle and the speeder bounded off the floor.

“Bail!” she spun in her seat to scream at Finn, her hair coming out of its tail and flying in her face.

As if by instinct they clutched each other and jumped clear of the speeder, rolling away together while it bounced off the floor and toward a bulkhead, where it crashed and fell to the floor. Smoke rose from the blaster hole and its fried engines.

A figure stepped out from behind a set of stairs, bright yellow in her gunner’s suit against the grey of the hangar, her weapon trained on the two of them.

“Hands up, both of you.”

“Paige.”

Rose didn’t budge as she faced her sister. Finn raised his own blaster, and Paige turned her gun on him.

“Looks like a stalemate.” Paige grinned. The sound of the pursuing speeders grew. “Why don’t we wait a few minutes while my friends get here?”

“Paige.” Finn looked down the length of the blaster barrel. “You know what Holdo is doing is wrong. She can’t imprison General Organa and strike a deal with the First Order.”

“Maybe you both need to remember what it means to be a soldier. I follow the Republic chain of command, because I am a soldier of the Republic. Just like you, sis.” Paige raised her voice just as Rose started sidling toward the door on the far end. “Take another step and I’ll shoot him.”

“Or maybe he’ll shoot you.” Rose looked between her sister and Finn, her face pale. “You know how good he is.”

“He won’t.” Paige smiled. “He won’t shoot the last family you have left.”

Finn swallowed at her words and tightened his grasp on his blaster. “Rosie…”

The pursuers were close now, their forms blurry at the other end of the hangar. Paige held out a hand at Finn. “Now that we’ve established you won’t shoot, Starros, why not give me that gun? I don’t know how you dragged my sister into your little mutiny, but-”

Blaster fire rang out, and Paige stumbled. She stared for a moment before she fell to one knee, uncomprehending.

Finn took a step back as though he himself had been shot. “Rose.”

Rose dropped her blaster from limp hands and ran to catch Paige in both arms. Her hand fumbled at a pocket in her coveralls and thrust out a data cube at Finn.

“Finn, go.” She sat down on the floor, propping a still shocked Paige against herself, and raised her voice over the sound of the approaching engines. “You have to restore the command codes.”

“I’m not leaving you here.” Finn’s hand tightened around both the data cube and her hand.

She pulled him by the hand and kissed him, fierce and sharp, as though to swallow in a single moment a lifetime of what might never be.

“And I’m not leaving my sister. Go. Don’t stop for anything.”

Finn’s hand, clutching the data cube, brushed her cheek for the briefest of moments as he turned away. She closed her eyes at the sweetness of it even as her hands yanked a medpac from her belt.

As Finn’s purposeful steps pounded away down the hangar, Rose pressed with her hands against the bleeding wound in Paige’s side and injected her with a stim. A shade of color came back to Paige’s face and she managed to focus her eyes on Rose’s.

“I can’t believe you shot me.”

“You were being a bitch.” Rose fumbled one-handed with the medpac before grabbing a pressure bandage.

“Did you seriously snog a guy over my dying body? Ew.”

“You’re not dying.” Rose’s voice shook as she started cutting away Paige’s yellow gunner suit. “I can put anything back together.”

Shouts and the hum of engines filled the air as the Republic soldiers’ speeders pulled up.

“Don’t move! Hands on your head!” Soldiers aimed blasters in Rose’s face. She struggled as they pulled her off Paige.

“I shot her. Please help, I shot her.” Tears leaked out of her eyes as she held up her blood-spotted hands.

“Where’s Starros?” A red-suited officer thrust his blaster against Rose’s chin, forcing her to lift her head. To his unit he shouted: “Get to the control room! Stop him before-”

At that moment the lights dimmed.

“This is Commander Finn Starros of the Resistance.” Finn’s voice came over the internal comm system. “As of this moment General Organa’s Resistance has full control over the base’s systems. Republic mutineers are advised to lay down your arms and surrender.”

The Republic soldiers pounded on the door up to the control room. “It’s no use, sir! We’ve been locked out.”

“And if you break the rules of engagement to harm any prisoner in your power,” Finn continued over the comm, a calm fury cutting into his voice, “rest assured you will face the full force of the law and me.

“Traitor. What did you do?” The officer turned his gaze on Rose.

Shaking, pale, her face stained with tears and her hands with blood, Rose smiled.

“You lost.”

With a roar of rage the officer raised his blaster and struck the butt across Rose’s temple while Paige screamed at him not to hurt her sister. Rose slumped to the cold floor unconscious, the elation of victory still carved in the curving of her lips.