Talking and laughing would be good enough for me for a start. Establishing them as friends for a while now, especially since there’s been a time skip and they’ll have gone through some shit together offscreen.
I want Poe wingmanning for Finn and Rey, poking at Rey to talk to Finn about her feelings. She swats at Poe, too nervous to talk to her own best friend.
I want Finn and Rey doing the same for Poe, encouraging him to ask out Lando’s super-cute aide (who also happens to be Lando’s son and is played by Chadwick Boseman i can dream ok) and, when Poe insists the guy is out of his league, take matters into their own hands by trapping Poe into talking to him alone.
I want them to have real drama together, like Finn wants to help the Stormtrooper uprising and Rey, still upset about his attempted self-sacrifice at Crait, is strongly against his taking such a risk. Poe tries to mediate and strategize, but his worry for Finn still shines through. And, of course, they’re coming with him and won’t hear his objections.
I want them in ACTION together, Poe in sniper mode again and Finn and Rey cutting a swathe through the enemy with Poe watching their back.
I would love it if they confronted Kylo Ren together, the three people he tortured, wounded, and manipulated facing him off side by side, the true successors to the heroic trio he would have all butchered if he weren’t such a flop.
I want to see them celebrating together, hugging and kissing. I want to see Finn spin Rose around in the air, I want to see Rey squeeze Poe until he begs for mercy, I want Finn and Rey to share an epic victory kiss (and Rey would be the one to dip him, of course). I want them to revel in the joy of victory and of being alive with each other in a galaxy that is once again free from terror.
I loved everything about this list!
Side note: In the TFA visual guide it says Poe has his mother’s ring as a necklace that he intends to give to his partner one day.
Imagine if we see one of Lando’s kids wearing Poe’s mother’s ring and we don’t find out till a little bit in the film that Poe got married to him and the baby casting notice is a refugee baby Poe and his husband adopted
It’s a tinfoil hat theory, but I think it’s sweet.
*dies from sweetness overload* Also it would be a way to overcome Disney’s homophobia by having nothing too overt on screen while also making it BLINDINGLY clear.
The marriage and adoption could have happened before EP-IX.
Star Treck Beyond did it and JJ produced the film and he loved the idea.
JJ loved the idea that Sulu was a gay character and liked how it was handled in a way that wasn’t controversial, but natural. If that’s the direction JJ and Oscar want for Poe, I can see that happening.
I feel like Disney could fix what they did to Valkyrie when they cut the short clip that confirmed she was bi-sexual.
Maybe the Rebels gain refuge on Cloud City with Lando, and Poe’s counterpart in coordinating their resources is Lando’s heir Ekino. Or maybe Leia decides to take a page out of their enemies’ playbook and the Resistance become a mobile strike force (I mean there are few enough of them left…), with Ekino being Lando’s liaison. Poe and Ekino grow close as they talk supplies and strategy, and Poe sometimes wonders what this devastatingly handsome man who is brave enough and generous enough to pour his fortune into and risk his life for the fight against the FO sees in him. He wonders if this make him a gold digger while Finn and Rey inform him that he is ridiculous. Ekino himself can’t believe that this daredevil and hero, the acclaimed pilot who flew so many missions for THE Leia Organa, actually returns his feelings.
Their feelings get a little complicated and they start seeing each other less. When begging Poe to just talk to Ekino doesn’t work Finn and Rey trap them into a one-on-one meeting, and Ekino confesses to Poe that a part of him always sought meaning in his life beyond his riches, that he yearned to live up to and even surpass his father’s heroism. But now that the universe has tragically given him all too much of an opportunity he is afraid, though glad to serve, all the more because he has a new fear–losing Poe. They lean into a long, sweet, kiss.
By this time Kes has barged his way into the Resistance despite Poe’s entreaties and threats to stay safe on the family farm. ”M’ijo, I’ve been here before. If you think anywhere is safe try turning on the holos for five minutes.” He, Leia, and Lando exchange knowing looks as they watch Poe and Ekino falling deeper and deeper for each other. They, along with Lando’s spouses Kaasha and Lobot, plus a holoimage of a smiling Shara that Kes carries everywhere, are there for the ceremony when Poe gives Shara’s ring to Ekino and Ekino, in true Calrissian fashion, gifts him with a dashing cape.
@lj-writes Looks like you’re not the only one who considers the ST a duology, looks like JJ agrees with you XD
Every even number after IV is invalid.
@lj-writes you spoke it and it became reality! Start preaching, boss!
From now on all the real ones will tag Sequel content as Sequel Duology.
J.J.: Thanks Johnson and Lucas on Twitter as he starts filming
Also J.J.: Does this
We stan a legend
JJ is the definition of kill em with kindness.
I aspire to get on that level!
OMG IT’S EVEN BETTER THAN I THOUGHT
He @’d RJ in the tweet where he posted the picture so RJ would HAVE to see the VII IX in the foreground. JJ YOU MAGNIFICENT BITCH
He was a producer on TLJ and had seen the script before filming . He may not have had the power to change anything in an official capacity. But he could have just come to Rian Johnson and said. “I like this script but there are some things that don’t feel right. Can we talk about it”. And they Rian Johnson would have listened to JJ Abrams or at least talked about how what he is doing will carry on to the next movie.
Filming episode 8 again just doesn’t make sense
I mean Daisy speculated that RJ threw out JJ’s outlines for the next 2 movies and she must have had a reason to say that publicly, so what makes you think RJ would have been open to JJ’s input lmao
And no one’s saying Episode 8 should be filmed again whut (much as I would like that)
I feel it anon. It is SO upsetting to see people just dismiss Finn out of hand as a love interest because of the color of his skin. Like I knew it was bad for interracial pairings, but the SW fandom just floored me with how much they will do anything do ship Rey with anyone but the black man. Finn and Rey are the kind of I-never-knew-I-needed-you-in-my-life, meant-to-be-together, actual soulmates ship, and yet people refuse to see it. And if Finn was white there would absolutely be no argument that they were the main ship of the series. But instead we get people trying to validate crack ships or a ship with absolutely no buildup because it’s more palatable to them. And it honestly just makes me so angry and sad when I think about it. The only thing that makes me feel better is that I strongly believe that JJ will make them canon. Because even if fandom stays a racist trashfire, that would be such a huge step (STAR WARS, possibly the biggest franchise in the world with a lead interracial couple) and a giant middle finger to all the racists who have been denying them from day 1.
This originally started out as a reblog @thelastjedicritical reblog about continuity and it evolved into this.
I’ve been thinking a lot about if JJ will softly retcon TLJ’s consequences, or what little and few consequences it had.
Considering Force projection have now been brought into the new canon, force teleportation for Luke’s survival and Souls transferring or surviving after the body was destroyed for Snoke’s survival isn’t that far fetched. Both powers existed during the Old Republic era and could be brought into the new canon like how RJ pulled force projection from an old, out of date Legends force power book.
It all just depends on where JJ and Star Wars is going to go after IX.
If IX truly is the ending of everything, then Luke, or at least Snoke, should stay dead. If Star Wars is going to be like the old EU and the MCU, and start telling stand alone stories more, than bringing Luke back as the Grand Jedi Master and Snoke back as a Lager Scope Villain would be a good idea for the series as a whole.
Luke could become the big good of the franchise and stay on Coruscant helping serve the New Republic, which Leia would be named the Chancellor of, while he also rebuilds the New Jedi Order. That way both Luke and Leia can remain in the story, while not getting involved with the many adventures to come in Star Wars outside of cameos and novels. Beyond that, unless where doing a 10 year time skip, Rey isn’t nearly as strong or even knowledgeable about the politics of the galaxy or Jedi to start a new order. I mean there always Ahsoka too…cough, cough.
Even if you agree with Snoke’s death, no one can argue the fact that he was an intimidating villain who seemed a lot stronger than any other character we’ve seen. He could be like the Thanos of Star Wars. Darth Neggings/Benny Boy, and even Hux work as an Antagonists, but not greater scope villains. Snoke did.
I know some would disagree with me, but turning the Star Wars saga into stand alone movies like Marvel would be a better move on the chessboard. We already have Rogue One and there’s a Boba Fett movie coming. I think an anthology series approach would serve Lucasfilms and the fans better.
A Knights of Ren movie with Kylo.
A Mandalorian movie with Finn.
A Black Squadron movie with Poe.
A Jedi Order movie with Rey.
Other standalone movies set in different eras Like an Ahsoka movie, Clone Commandos, Kotor. Then they can all converge in bigger movies together like the Avengers.
I think a major problem Lucasfilms is having with these new movies is that they are trying to emulate the old trilogies formats while also trying to do new stuff like Marvel, and it’s not working.
Just ditch the trilogy format all together and start focusing on the characters and their stories.
If marvel can take a bunch of B rank comic book heroes that only comic fans knew about and turn them into literal box office juggernaut hits and beloved characters, than Lucasfilms can do it for Star Wars.
Sharing screen time like the way they have been doing it guarantees that all these characters will never actually get the character development they deserve without one of them taking it from another. The Dark Knight, Winter Soldier, Logan, Black Panther, they had such great character development for their characters because there wasn’t a million characters to focus on.
In TLJ we had to follow Rey, Finn, Kylo, and Poe, and all of their character arcs. Then there were characters underdeveloped like Rose, Holdo, Luke, Leia, Snoke, Hux, and Phasma. As well as characters completely ignored or not even present like Ackbar, Chewie, R2, Lando, Wedge and the Knights of Ren. And finally we had plot threads entirely dropped like Finn’s origins, Rey’s parents, Snoke’s backstory, Poe’s father and his insecurities, Leia’s family relationships, Luke’s 30 year history since ROTJ, Hux’s relationship with Rae Sloane and his father, Rae Sloane herself, Phasma’s corrupt dealings, the New Republic politics and First Order’s history of what actually happened in the unknown regions of space.
If anyone thinks we’re gonna get all of this settled in one movie, then that shit is either going to be 8 hours long or your high off death sticks.
Lucasfilms should ditch the trilogy format, end this whole Skywalker format and just start making stand-alone movies like Marvel and DC, just please no Joss Whedon.
Lucasfilms is already trying to subtly be like Marvel anyway, spinoffs planned, multiple new projects being produced by different directors… All I’m suggesting is that they drop the formalities and just started doing standalone movies now.
The Anthology approach for marvel isn’t just working either, it’s getting better. Their Movies have gone from all being copy and past generic movies to films to Hiest movies, war movies, action comedy movies, westerners, horror, and dramatic family epics. Meanwhile Star Wars is still trying to copy a format that ended with Revenge of the Sith.
Move on and start evolving. No good ever came from trying to copy the past. Good only comes when we learn and improve from the past.
I mean does anyone seriously believe Disney will stop milking the Star Wars money as long as it can make money?
They’ll ride this train till it burns beyond recognition. So the least they can do is rebrand it so it starts making more money than comic book movies. Back in 2016 Star Wars was king, now they’re just that tired old franchise with 2 racists (Rian Johnson and Kathleen Kennedy) screwing things up.
Yeah the trilogy format has run its course and clearly it’s not what LF is actually doing. This isn’t George Lucas’s show anymore, for better and for worse, they need to do what they need for this new canon–and for those sweet profits, of course.
One fly (two flies?) in this ointment is that two of the biggest stars in the franchise, John and Daisy, have stated they won’t be returning after IX. They went as close to setting it in stone as anything can get in show biz, which I grant you isn’t that final and could be a negotiating tactic. It could also be, though, that these up and coming actors don’t want to be tied to the brand too strongly, especially given its current chaotic management. Either way LF will have to make the deal pretty sweet and run a HECK of a tighter ship if it wants to keep them for future projects and get anywhere near Marvel’s level.
That’s essentially what I’m saying. The movie pitch ideas I was giving are just general ones. I really doubt John and Daisy will stay after the next movie if things don’t change and they don’t actually get treated with respect, but at this point LS has already tarnished their image. Sure some people will go see the movies if they keep making it, but if Solo is anything to learn from, you can’t keep making half assed movies and expect people to pay to see them.
@lj-writes do you have anyone in mind who could actually run this company over KK? A lot of people say Dave Filoni, but I’m against someone who is never around the movie studio before in their life, and other reasons, being in charge.
I like Kiri Hart of the Story Group, who is rumored to be KK’s replacement. There are rumors that JJ was offered the position and refused it.
@yourfriendlyneighborhoodwraith Here’s one about TFA almost having an all-white cast due to LF’s cowardice racism (link). According to this report JJ was the only reason the cast had some diversity.