“Be wicked, be brave, be drunk, be reckless, be dissolute, be despotic, be an anarchist, be a religious fanatic, be a suffragette, be anything you like, but for pity’s sake be it to the top of your bent–Live–live fully, live passionately, live disastrously if necessary. Live the gamut of human experiences, build, destroy, build up again! Live, let’s live, you and I–let’s live as none ever lived before, let’s explore and investigate, let’s tread fearlessly where even the most intrepid have faltered and held back!”
–Violet Trefusis in a letter to her lover Vita Sackville-West, October 1918
So I have a hankering to do some edits based on this quote, specifically the parts “Live fully” “Live passionately” “Live disastrously” “Let’s live, you and I” “as none ever lived before.” I hope to feature a different wlw character/couple for each gif. Here’s the ones I’m thinking:
Live fully: Anissa and Grace from Black Lightning dancing together
Live passionately: A love scene between Carol and Therese from Carol
Live disastrously: Rosa from Brooklin 99 in jail
Let’s live, you and I: A scene between Louise and Henriette from Mystére á la Tour Eiffel. Kissing, walking arm in arm?
As none ever lived before: Drawing a blank on this one. Is there a live-action movie or TV show with relatively high-definition sources where there are canon wlw (especially woc) and no dead lesbians?
I’ve decided to split “Let’s live” and “you and I” into different gifs, so Crazy Ex-Girlfriend (from the third season) and Her Story (Allie and Vi) should fill up the two remaining slots nicely. I canNOT believe I had forgotten Her Story with its awesome and sadly rare trans lesbian representation, played by trans actress @smartassjen at that. On the other hand, I’m a little sad I only squeaked to six total in the criteria of “live-action show with canon wlw and no dead lesbians.”
Now I’ve gotta find the sources I don’t have (Carol and Tour Eiffel) and learn the editing skills to make these gifs shine like they deserve to. I feel sorry for this awesome idea that fell into my incompetent hands, though.
Also it turns out a movie of Vita Sackville-West and Virginia Woolf’s romance is coming out this year, but idk how much of Violet there is in it and I’d have to wait for a HD source anyway. Later on I might do another gifset from the movie with the people actually involved in this quote, which would be awesome.
I have all the edits ready, just awaiting export and optimization, except the last one. And for that I’m going to need Black Lightning to update on Netflix… come onnnn…
@thehungryvortigaunt Excellent idea. I’m taking out Rosa Diaz from B99 to add them instead. I haven’t been able to find really satisfactory visuals of Rosa and have some problems withthe show itself. And if I can get a decent source for The Handmaiden I’m going to add another gif, I can’t believe I’d forgotten about it smh.
@chewvbacca Thank you for liking this idea! I’ve done many of the edits now and I’m really excited. That sounds like an awesome movie, and it’s got a 100% critics score on Rotten Tomatoes and a 77% audience score too. The lesbian couple are escaping from their nursing home omfg I’m already giggling at the premise. I’m uh… seeing about trying to get it. *shifty eyed*
Here’s one of the edits, from the YouTube show Her Story. It’s the first time I tried an animated handwriting effect on Photoshop (I’d only ever done it on After Effects), and while the method seemed crude at first it seems to have worked out. I had forgotten how good human eyes are at creating continuous motion from limited information. The font is Mind Rush, for those who are interested.
By the way, should I have a “TERFs don’t interact” message in there as well? I’m hoping that having a trans woman in the edit, see above, would be enough, but I can also add a cute edit at the end telling them to fuck off in case some of them don’t get the message.
Lupita’s a Latina but y’all staying silent about her
Quick question: Why didn’t yall care about getting your own “Captain America”, “Iron Man”, “Superman”, “Wonder Woman”, “Batman”, “Thor”, “Avengers”, I👏🏿 CAN👏🏿 GO👏🏿 ON👏🏿
Quick answer FOR FOREVER the same as Asian people. We’ve all been waiting for our people to be seen as more than side kicks, to be able to be seen as love interests and not exotic foreign woman that gets with hero white male. Or not just be the Asian male who can only tell jokes and will never be seen as a romantic lead. People can wonder when they will achieve a success and opportunity like Black Panther. But sure say how others haven’t stood behind you all. How everyone is riding your “coat tails” bitch you should want other minorities to succeed. You should want them to be able to attain opportunities. Not say fuck everyone else stay the fuck down and shut up.
Yet you only start talking about it when black people finally get something. That’s the only time these damn convos come up. Just like every February when it’s Black History Month, “why ain’t there such and such month” when Google is two clicks away from showing you that that shit been there. And when I say “riding our coattails” I mean yall expect us to do all the work for you and when we put our issues first you get all pissy and outraged. But newsflash, we ain’t your mules and our success in one thing doesn’t make us equivalent to white ppl. I ain’t saying fuck everyone else, but fuck you if you think we should lift you up even over our own selves.
Coco and Ferdinand came out and we didnt come out our face talkin about “whoa whoa aint we about due for an animated nigerian movie??” every Black person i follow on this site gets excited af whenever ANY non-white racial group gets good representation and WE always call out erasure of other non-white groups when we see it BUT WE ARE NOT YOUR GODDAMN WORK MULES non-black poc are so fucking obnoxious, STOP EXPECTING ALL YOUR SHIT TO COME OFF THE BACK OF OUR HARD WORK we only hear yall run your mouth when you see black people making progress, its not our fault you assholes dont fight for shit until you see us with something you think yall should just get automatically bc how dare Black people get it first when we’ve been fighting for it since day one
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And y’all don’t say shit when black people in your ethnic groups get left out.
Y’all want Latinx representation, but no Afro-latinx representation. Y’all want Asian representation, but not Afro-Asian/Black Asian representation. In fact, Black Panther released in East Asia and people are complaining that there are too many black people and it’s boring/irritating/making them drowsy.
Let’s also not forget that Black people have fought for Latinx and Asian rights despite a history of both communities engaging in anti-blackness or trying to be classified as white in many cases.
Black people, women specifically, coined intersectionality and the term People of Color to include non-black people in struggles against discrimination, the lack of representation, and so much more and still expect black people to do the rest of the work for them, as well.
If you want representation, fucking fight for it and create your own movements and on your own time, not just because Black people finally have something that represents them. We will still continue to support y’all but we not supporting this shit. If y’all want representation, fight for it but don’t try to fight for it by overshadowing and overreaching because we finally have some.
Please, nonblack pocs, especially Asians since I am one, stop this shit. This corrosive envy, this what-about-me-ism whenever Black people get anything at all, is really transparent and sickening. It’s like we believe Black people, particularly Black women, are at the back of the line and anything they have we deserved yesterday. From past experience I know that Black people will be excited for us and support us when we have a triumph like this, but trying to make a great moment for Africans and the African diaspora about us is just ugly. Celebrate with Black fans, let them enjoy this moment fully and stop derailing because, guess what? Any crack in the wall of white supremacy helps all of us and we are all richer for seeing more people represented in our media, treated well in our communities, and empowered to live without fear. Also, self-interest aside, it’s just the right way to act.
You did not read the fucking article did you? It doesn’t recriminate black people, it instead praises their efforts and calls for latinos to learn from them and create their own momentum and stories.
But please go off shitting on latinos and presuming you can know anything from headline.
In your tags you say youbare embarrassed. So am I. Im embarrassed that so many fucking people in the internet can’t read to save their lives
If anything the actual article is a bigger mess. The writer admits to “jealousy and frustration” in literally the first sentence, co-opts the tag #BlackExcellence, and makes the success of Black Panther all about strategies for Latine representation instead of, idk, engaging with it on its own terms for half a second? Maybe celebrate Afro-Latina Lupita Nyong’o’s groundbreaking role (oh except Lupita DOESN’T COUNT because she wasn’t born in the U.S.!), reflect on how the antiblackness that was a major point in the movie is prevalent in Latine communities as well? But no, all she gets from BP is, “When will Latinos … experience that feeling and similar ‘Defining Moment.’” Like, completely ignoring those Latines who might in fact have felt represented and empowered. Classy.
No. You are just… wrong.
Yeah the author admits jealousy. Jealousy is not an inherently malicious feeling. If Im jealous of you because of your cool relationship with your partner, I can either a) be bitter and take it out on you (which is bad) or b) stop feeling sorry for myself. be inspired, and get myself a cute relationship of my own ( which is good). The author does the latter.
#brownexcellence is an actual hashtag used by minorities of diverse backgrounds as a way to celebrate their accomplishments. It takes nothing away from #blackexcellence. Frankly this is nitpicking
“Makes the success of Black Panther all about strategies for Latine representation instead of, idk, engaging with it on its own terms for half a second?”
There are countless reviews and thoughtpieces dealing with Black Panther and what it means for black people (as it should be). One article by one latina writing about what she learned from it does not magically erase that. Besides if she was writing about black issues some people would tell her to stay on her lane. Doesn’t it make sense she would talk about what she knows about?
Gotta be honest… Lupita spent 1 year in Mexico as a baby and then 7 months studying spanish. There is more to being latina that being born while your dad happened to be in Mexico. John Mccain was born in Panama, is he latino? If she considers herself latina I welcome her with open arms but I literally did not even know until today. The media focused much more in her Kenyan ancestry.
Please don’t lecture me an the anti-blackness in Latino culture. I am literally living in Latin America. You did not mention being latinx so Im gonna assume I probably know a little bit more. If you think shee could have plced more empasis on afro-latinos… I think that is a fair criticism. Shame most of the criticism here seems to boil down to “lol latinos why uou so jelly?”
Its funny you accuse her of ignoring the latinos who were inspired by BP… while ignoring that she herself felt empowered and inspired by BP and wanted to urge her fellow latinos to follow black people’s example and create their own stories.
The article was fine, it celebrated black people while calling latinos to make their voices heard. Yet tumblr decided it would more fun to tear latinos down.
What you are doing is performative wokeness. Please stop.
Yeah, but if I see you in a cool relationship and all I can say is, “when will I get my [your partner’s name]?” then I’m not being a very good friend. And if I do that every time you have something good? It becomes a pattern, and a tiresome one.
It still has a strong copycat feel to me, but even if we put that aside how does #brownexcellence even encompass the ingenuity of Latinx creators anyway? I thought Latinidad was about culture and history, not color. Does #brownexcellence encompass all Afro Latinx people? Does it include Asian Latinxs like my cousins? If anything it seems weirdly exclusive and microaggressive to equate being Latinx with being brown.
I did not, in fact, suggest that Christine Davila talk about Black issues. Antiblackness within Latinx communities is a Latinx issue, like antiblackness among Koreans is a Korean issue. I have spoken multiple times on the latter without pretending to know what it is to be subjected to antiblackness as a Black person, and no one has once told me I was out of my lane–because I wasn’t.
I looked it up and idk if Lupita herself ever said she’s Afro Latina, but she’s been listed in articles about Afro Latinas in science fiction and identifies herself as Mexican-Kenyan. To my knowledge John McCain, who was born in the U.S.-controlled Panama Canal Zone, was never a Panaman citizen.
Wow. Imagine thinking that merely mentioning the existence of antiblackness in Latinx communities is “lecturing” you, lmao. I mean I know it exists and can be pretty bad because, surprise, Afro Latinxs, especially Afro Latinas, themselves have talked about it! Talk about fragile and defensive smh.
I directely quoted a passage at you that implies that the author did not in fact feel empowered by BP, and does not think Latinxs in general are. Maybe read it again?
I think I’ll keep doing whatever the fuck I like on my own blog, thanks. 😊 You’re not the op and I sure as hell didn’t get in your notes. YOU got in MY face, and you don’t get to tell me to go away when I never got near you except to reply. If you want to talk and argue, I’m fine with that. But if you want me to stop? How about no, genius. If you don’t want to see my shit the block button is right there.
“Tell him I’m trying to redeem the person who slashed him across the back and put him into a coma. Can you tell him that for me please? Thanks.”
Someone finally said it.
Rian Johnson is a fucking hack.
y’all forgot luke redeemed vader who tortured leia, had a hand in blowing up her home planet, killed obi wan and froze han in carbonite?
Do you think that Finn wouldn’t be at least slightly sympathetic if he knew what was actually happening to Kylo Ren, and what had happened to him in the past? You think Finn wouldn’t be against brainwashing and abuse, regardless of the target?
Awww lookit that, Finn is worthless unless he forgives and props up the man who bullied and would have killed him!
Abuse? Not an excuse even if it happened. Brainwashing? Total bullshit. Not only did Kylo disobey Snoke’s order in TFA, he murderized the pickled prune in TLJ. And still wanted to murder his mother and all the Resistance survivors.
I’ll take “shit I never said” for $500, Alex.
Implying Finn is unempathetic and cold unless he forgives and helps Kylo? Yeah you did.
No, I said he’d be against abuse and brainwashing. I said he’d probably understand, at least partially. If you don’t think he’d forgive Kylo Ren, that’s reasonable.
And let’s not forget, it was antis that brought Kylo Ren onto the post, not ~Reylos.~
So he’s pro-abuse and brainwashing now unless he “understands” the man who almost killed him and tortured his friends? How nice.
Finn was literally abused and brainwashed by the First Order and Kylo Ren who was a part of this process. Kylo Ren is one of the leaders of the FO, he’s directly responsible for the abuse and brainwashing Finn went through as a child. In TFA, Kylo Ren had the fucking gall to actually be angry at Finn for breaking his brainwashing and running away from his abusers. Kylo Ren wanted Finn to keep being abused and brainwashed.
I have no doubt that Finn is against abuse and brainwashing but even if it’s somehow revealed that Kylo Ren suffered any of these things too (which I sincerely doubt), Finn has absolutely 0 reason to try to understand or be sympathetic toward one of his abuser and implying that he or that anyone need to do this is disgusting. If anything Finn would probably hate Kylo Ren more and understand him less if it was ever revealed that Kylo Ren went through something similar and then decided to just go on to perpetuate abuse and brainwashing on a fucking industrial level. But there is nothing in canon saying that Kylo Ren went through this any way so that point is moot.
Also : Don’t use Finn to prop your fav white character.
(and while i’m at it, the difference with vader was that he was luke’s father not some rando he had just met AND luke did not redeem vader for his crimes against leia or his crime against everyone else in the galaxy : vader saving luke and luke forgiving him only redeemed vader for his crimes against luke specifically. vader/anakin could never be redeemed for all of his crimes, and neither could kylo ren because they both passed the point of no return a long time ago when they started participating in genocides – in any case, what luke did in the OT was nowhere near the bullshit we were subjected to in TLJ)
^^^Exactly. In support of your point about Vader and for all the dumbasses clutching their Vader pearls, let me just drop a George Lucas quote and get out of OP’s notes: “Anakin can’t be redeemed for all the pain and suffering he’s caused. He doesn’t right the wrongs, but he stops the horror.“
Lupita’s a Latina but y’all staying silent about her
Quick question: Why didn’t yall care about getting your own “Captain America”, “Iron Man”, “Superman”, “Wonder Woman”, “Batman”, “Thor”, “Avengers”, I👏🏿 CAN👏🏿 GO👏🏿 ON👏🏿
Quick answer FOR FOREVER the same as Asian people. We’ve all been waiting for our people to be seen as more than side kicks, to be able to be seen as love interests and not exotic foreign woman that gets with hero white male. Or not just be the Asian male who can only tell jokes and will never be seen as a romantic lead. People can wonder when they will achieve a success and opportunity like Black Panther. But sure say how others haven’t stood behind you all. How everyone is riding your “coat tails” bitch you should want other minorities to succeed. You should want them to be able to attain opportunities. Not say fuck everyone else stay the fuck down and shut up.
Yet you only start talking about it when black people finally get something. That’s the only time these damn convos come up. Just like every February when it’s Black History Month, “why ain’t there such and such month” when Google is two clicks away from showing you that that shit been there. And when I say “riding our coattails” I mean yall expect us to do all the work for you and when we put our issues first you get all pissy and outraged. But newsflash, we ain’t your mules and our success in one thing doesn’t make us equivalent to white ppl. I ain’t saying fuck everyone else, but fuck you if you think we should lift you up even over our own selves.
Coco and Ferdinand came out and we didnt come out our face talkin about “whoa whoa aint we about due for an animated nigerian movie??” every Black person i follow on this site gets excited af whenever ANY non-white racial group gets good representation and WE always call out erasure of other non-white groups when we see it BUT WE ARE NOT YOUR GODDAMN WORK MULES non-black poc are so fucking obnoxious, STOP EXPECTING ALL YOUR SHIT TO COME OFF THE BACK OF OUR HARD WORK we only hear yall run your mouth when you see black people making progress, its not our fault you assholes dont fight for shit until you see us with something you think yall should just get automatically bc how dare Black people get it first when we’ve been fighting for it since day one
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And y’all don’t say shit when black people in your ethnic groups get left out.
Y’all want Latinx representation, but no Afro-latinx representation. Y’all want Asian representation, but not Afro-Asian/Black Asian representation. In fact, Black Panther released in East Asia and people are complaining that there are too many black people and it’s boring/irritating/making them drowsy.
Let’s also not forget that Black people have fought for Latinx and Asian rights despite a history of both communities engaging in anti-blackness or trying to be classified as white in many cases.
Black people, women specifically, coined intersectionality and the term People of Color to include non-black people in struggles against discrimination, the lack of representation, and so much more and still expect black people to do the rest of the work for them, as well.
If you want representation, fucking fight for it and create your own movements and on your own time, not just because Black people finally have something that represents them. We will still continue to support y’all but we not supporting this shit. If y’all want representation, fight for it but don’t try to fight for it by overshadowing and overreaching because we finally have some.
Please, nonblack pocs, especially Asians since I am one, stop this shit. This corrosive envy, this what-about-me-ism whenever Black people get anything at all, is really transparent and sickening. It’s like we believe Black people, particularly Black women, are at the back of the line and anything they have we deserved yesterday. From past experience I know that Black people will be excited for us and support us when we have a triumph like this, but trying to make a great moment for Africans and the African diaspora about us is just ugly. Celebrate with Black fans, let them enjoy this moment fully and stop derailing because, guess what? Any crack in the wall of white supremacy helps all of us and we are all richer for seeing more people represented in our media, treated well in our communities, and empowered to live without fear. Also, self-interest aside, it’s just the right way to act.
The war on drugs is rooted in racist policies . The failure of the war and drugs is obvious. We need to find a better solution, because people of color should never be the victims of racist policies. White Americans are more likely than black Americans to have used most kinds of illegal drugs, including cocaine and LSD. Yet blacks are far more likely to go to prison for marijuana, which is not a hard drug. Moreover , even when white people get caught , they get less time in prison.
…is that Rachael Leigh Cook, the same actress who did the original anti-drug ad when she was a teenager?
So, your dumb ass is going to use art about Indian Soldiers sacrificing their life to save people from terrorists, for ship wars? You little shit!
Are you this mad about all the comedic permutations of this graphic floating around, or are you selectively outraged because it denigrates Reylo?
This is the first time I am seeing shit like this. I dont care if this is Reylo or anything else. You have no idea about Indians, or about our soldiers or how insensitive this is. You are an ignorant ass and this proves it.
You mean the same Indian army that’s killing, raping, and torturing civilians in Kashmir? Sorry mate, I’m not up the ass of any military, including my own country’s. 😘
Good for you that you believe false western propaganda without knowing the actual struggle.
Hey everyone Indian government-compiled statistics are Western propaganda now
So, you Google something from 2010 and suddenly you are an expert on Kashmir and Indian Army? I am pretty sure you didnt even understand the whole article. You have no idea whats happening, you have no idea about India or Indians or what or why we feel what we feel, but you want to stereotype us. If you hate Indian army so much, why use an art which was made to honour their sacrifice and turn it into a meme for your fave ship?
Pointing out that the Indian army, like any military, has serious human rights abuses under its belt and doesn’t deserve anyone’s uncritical stanning is hating and stereotyping them? Lmao. For the record, the Korean army is a hellhole of historical massacres, rampant sexual abuse, and corruption at all levels. It deserves all the mockery and criticism in the world. I must be stereotyping and hating myself now, right? (+ my father, brother, and husband, all of whom served)
It’s a meme, dear, look it up. I had no idea it was about the Indian military, but I don’t care that it is. They’re no more above mockery than any military and I’m not weeping for the world’s second largest military force of a nuclear power. And I find your militarist worship and the attitude of dismissing human rights abuses as “Western propaganda” downright frightening.
Attack The Block (2011) // Star Wars: The Force Awakens (2015) // Star Wars: The Last Jedi (2017) // Pacific Rim: Uprising (2018)
@littleflyingfuckwits funny, I don’t see anyone trying to downplay Nathan Fillion or David Tennant’s role as a scifi icon to this day.
Fillion starred in one SciFi property. Two if you count the Halo game voice work. He’s been everywhere in cameos because one small franchise made him a scifi icon, and you’re bothered John Boyega is being pedestaled for starring in three sci fi properties?
Same with David Tennant. Starred in one major sci fi property, became a big name, has continued a prolific and respected career outside of the genre – he’s no flavor of the month as you imply.
If we’re comparing Boyega to white actors, why not Chris Pratt, one of the few other actors today who has starred in three sci fi properties, including two major franchises. Why not Harrison Ford, who led two major franchises in the ‘80s plus starred in Blade Runner? Why not Sir Ian McKellen?
And Will Smith (who “isn’t even a white dude”) is an odd oversight, considering he’s one of the few actors, period, to have such a sizeable scifi filmography. Naming Nathan Fillion, a one-scifi-hit wonder who wound up on a cheesy TV crime procedural with the occasional sitcom guest spot, and not Will Smith, Boyega’s obvious predecessor in breaking the scifi barrier, just looks bitter, like you’re rooting for John to be an actor who never really catches on as an A-level star.
@littleflyingfuckwits It wasn’t a lighthearted jab. A lighthearted jab doesn’t start with “I have to disagree” and end with “you never hear from them again.”
You know what was lighthearted? The original post celebrating John and calling him King of SciFi. It isn’t a meta asking for a counterpoint, it’s a tribute gifset. It’s pointing out that John has already done something few actors have done: starred in multiple scifi/fantasy franchises. That he’s still relatively new is part of it.
Not to mention, “King” is a term of empowerment for men and boys in the Black community. John Boyega absolutely is a king who inspires people and breaks barriers while dealing with a hell of a lot more pushback than your microaggressive “it boy” examples ever did.
Also like… what if he is the flavor du jour who will soon be forgotten? I disagree with that prediction, but no one can see the future so let’s say that’s possible. What’s the harm in celebrating his achievements while his fame lasts? Why rain on someone else’s parade instead of making a new post or something? This is how you know @littleflyingfuckwits‘s comment isn’t about actually analyzing John’s status in the film industry or his future as an actor, but just crapping on other people’s fun. It’s insincere as critique and is nothing more than an asshole move with a veneer of intellectualism.
Um? This is the woman who was confirmed, over and over again, to have put her ambitions ahead of the good of others, of Bajor, or indeed the universe. She also ummm tried to assassinate her opponent (Bareil)? Which would make anyone a villain? But that’s not close to all of it, you even brought up the pah wraiths yourself–i.e. her last arc in the show, where she was going to burn Bajor down and kill the Prophets because they liked Sisko better than her. I’m not sure what Berman meant by violation, certainly Dukat raped her by deception and no one deserves that. Here’s some news, though: suffering a wrong does not in itself make you a good person.
@kyberfox The salt of Dukat stans in response to his story is a major reason to love DS9 as a show, if not the fandom. But eeewwww in addition to presiding over genocide (like that’s not enough) Dukat is a sexual predator and a serial rapist and he has stans, wow. I don’t think his history of rape was as blatant in the earlier seasons though it was certainly implied, but even then he was creepy as hell pursuing Kira. Terrible as Winn is, I’d be hard-pressed to say she’s worse than Dukat and felt awful at how she was tricked by him. And that’s another long rant on how misogynistic the show was toward women who dared to enjoy sex.
@seguun Well, maybe. He certainly had flashier material, more expected material for a bad guy/protagonist’s rival. On the other hand, Winn’s brand of evil is more understated and also more… prosaic? I’d call her more corrupt than Dukat’s brand of out-and-out evil. Hers was a more nuanced look at corruption, not like Dukat’s which comes about more rarely through a perfect storm of power, policy, and personality–the sort of evil that doesn’t happen unless there is a severe power disparity, unless there is a decision to use that disparity for destructive exploitation, and unless there are (and there always are) abusive personalities to carry out that exploitation.
Winn’s brand of evil, or corruption, on the other hand, can happen in a broader range of situations. In fact, Dukat was at his most Winn-like when he turned internally toward Cardassia, as a self-serving politician, than when he was dealing externally with Bajor as a past colonial overlord. Like Winn, Dukat resisted foreign occupation, then supported/led a civilian government. These are positives as far as they go, but we also know that both Winn and Dukat were ultimately serving themselves. I can think of a lot of politicians who would be Dukats if given the chance, but in most situations they have to settle for being Winns. Dukat himself was more like Winn in Cardassia between withdrawal from Bajor and the Dominion takeover.
I think the banality of corruption is one reason some don’t see Winn as a villain and thought Dukat was being redeemed–because these characters were in the normal work of politics, whether in operating government domestically or fighting against foreign threats. The thing is, of course, they were using the workings of government to lift themselves up and serve their own ends at the expense of their peoples. Dukat again does the more obviously evil thing by giving Cardassia to the Dominion, but Winn, too, chose her advancement over the good of others and of Bajor throughout the show.
Their parallels are shown in their relationships with Sisko, too. Dukat may have hated and opposed Sisko openly while Winn was in a position where she had to give lip service to and be friendly with Sisko as the Emissary, but it’s clear from early on that she hates Sisko and thinks she deserves the love and reverence he gets.
It’s deeply fitting and satisfying then, that despite their differences, and indeed their enmity, Dukat and Winn end up at the same place at the end of Season 7–serving the pah-wraiths and destroying Bajor. One is an open racist and unrepentent genocidaire while the other is the spiritual leader of Bajor sworn to defend the world and its faith, yet they reach the same conclusion: Bajor, and the Prophets, deserve to be destroyed for not exalting and appreciating them enough. Dukat’s evil and Winn’s corruption may have taken different forms, but they were both equally destructive in the end and, indeed, Winn’s role was more crucial than Dukat’s.
Winn’s real final arc begins not when she is cruelly deceived and violated by the pah-wraiths and Dukat, but when she learns of the deception and responds to it. Rather than look back on her life and her faith and withdraw to make some much-needed changes in her life and heal from the spiritual and emotional trauma of what she was put through, she yet again decided power was more important and made the ultimate, fatal choice.
Winn’s story was different than Dukat’s, certainly, but in many ways I thought it was a more universal story with greater subtlety and nuance. I think together they made for a more rounded look at the nature of evil in politics.
this is y i generally hate kinksters despite being into all sorts of f*cked up stuff m’self bc they love imposing their gross personal sh*t on strangers
how about you let two people do what they want since it isnt actually effecting you in any way
treating a woman like a literal dog out in public does impact society. GREATLY. contrary to popular belief, we don’t live in a vacuum where our actions have no fucking consequences.
It’s just fucking rude and shitty to bring your kink play into a non-kink friendly public space because then you indirectly make everyone you come across a non-consensual part of whatever you are doing just by them being witness to it. It’s fucked up amateur hour bullshit.
Also lol at the ratty-ass dreads on the white dude. Fucking gross.
I’m physically naseuas
Imagine having to explain this to your child? This is so extra and unnecessary
yessssss i get to use this gif.
I’ve told this story before but whateves. When I worked at the pleasure chest a woman came running in one night, very worried and upset because a man who was cross-dressing was chained to the bike rack outside. She wanted me to call the police, but obviously I wanted to check on the guy first. Sure enough he was all in pink, chained to the bike rack. He told me he was perfectly fine. His Master was inside and he was more than happy to wait. Humiliation was a part of their play.
Now I’m kinky as shit, a sub and all. But this fucked me cause as a woman, cross dressing combined with humiliation leaves me feeling some type of way. And then you have the other customers who are being triggered and are genuinely in fear for this man’s safety.
He and his Master probably had a great night, but how many people who didn’t sign up to be a part of their scene went home feeling all fucked up about it? I know I did and frankly to me this most definitely violates the terms of Safe, Sane, Consensual because you are taking away other people’s ability and right to consent. In other words, you should actually keep your kinks to yourself.
Seriously, keep it in the dungeon/bedroom
Yeah. Wow. This.
the other day i was in the store with my son, who is four, and we turned into an aisle to see a guy choking a woman (presumably his girlfriend). without even thinking i turned my son around and said loudly, “HOLD ON OLIVER LOOK AT THE TORTILLAS AND COUNT HOW MANY THERE ARE” to see if the couple would do anything.
they looked at me and glared, and the girl eventually told her partner to let go of her neck and they left after i continued staring them down.
what would have happened if my son had seen that? seriously, how the fuck am i going to explain why youre choking your girlfriend next to the mac and cheese? he’s four. he doesn’t need to see that shit.
Basic rule: everyone in the scene needs to consent. Is everyone in the pic or above situations consenting??
No they are fucking not
Stop this shit
I had to have this conversation with a BDSM couple who came into my coffee shop once, her on a leash at two o’clock in the afternoon in pretty skimpy, fetish-y clothing. Basically, what I said was, “I am a huge part of your scene right now. The look on my face, my words, my thoughts, my feelings, they’re what’s fueling the very scene you’re playing out, so how are you going to tell me that everyone involved is consenting? You didn’t ask for my consent. I didn’t fill out a negotiation form. You don’t know my background, my history, my kinks, or my safeword, but you come into my place of work and expect to play out a scene with me without even asking?”
She was mortified. He tried to argue with me, but couldn’t continue once I said, “I do not consent to being part of your scene,” without exposing himself for the creepy “faux-BDSM covering for his abusive personality” loser that he was. And he was. I hate to be stereotypical, here, but he was wearing a trilby and a trench coat. In Arizona. In the summer.
A couple years later, I was at a fetish ball, outside smoking back when I used to smoke cigarettes. And while it’s not a crucial element to the story, I’m just going to say that the girl I was seeing at the time and I looked fucking awesome in our coordinated rockabilly dominatrix outfits. Anyway, I was a little drunk and smoking and here comes the exact same loser with a different young girl following half a step behind him and I maybe hollered a little too loudly, “Hey, sweetheart, you played out any scenes with non-consenting women in coffee shops lately, or did I just get lucky that time?” Because I’m an asshole who can’t keep her mouth shut.
I also once turned an aisle in the grocery store late one night to find a girl blowing her boyfriend next to the canned vegetables and I just said, “No. Nope. No. Put it away. No!” They both seemed mortified that time, at least.
But seriously, though, don’t do this shit. It’s rapey and gross. Not towards her, she might be into it, but towards me. Don’t do this shit because it’s rapey towards everyone else you’re making into unwilling participants in your sex games.
ALL OF THIS.
Just to forestall the “BUT WHAT ABOUT DEMONSTRATING MY RELATIONSHIP IN PUBLIC???” argument:
Do you normally call your partner “Mistress,” “pet,” “subhuman slimewom” or “Lord Dom of All Creation”? In public, more conventional pet names like “sweetie” or “dear,” said with the right tone of authority or reverence, can work just as well.
Take off anything that could set off a metal detector (and yes that includes cock cages ffs) before traveling on an airplane. Don’t randomly grab someone’s neck or go down on them or lead them around on a leash in public.
This is fucking basic shit. It’s no less kinky to be stealth, and it’s smarter, safer, and fucking more respectful.
And if you really, really want to be watched while you’re collared or lead around or whatever? Spend the fucking money and go to a fetish event. Otherwise it’s not “demonstrating your relationship,” it’s “weirding out vanillas gets me off.”
And its demonstrating you care little about consent or safe practices. As has been said, if everyone isnt consenting, youre doing it wrong
yeah, this isn’t kink shaming. i have a massive collar/leash kink. just don’t fucking do this in public, because … basically, all the things above. and it’s just … it’s forcing people to look at your foreplay, and that’s just really upsetting and gross and could you PLEASE not do it?
These are the folks who talk such big game about BDSM being ‘safe, sane and consensual’ but sure as hell don’t give a fuck about those around them, just themselves.
Fuck this couple.
This is actually very important for anyone thinking of bdsm play outside the bedroom:
Keep it stealth mode, because no one except you and your partner consented to see that shit.
people today with access to more raw information than any other period: the earth is flat
german artilleryman in 1916, who barely washes his own ass: I need to account for the curvature and rotation of the earth when plotting my firing plans
Eratosthenes, an Egyptian, in 3750 BC when fucking mammoths hadn’t even gone extinct yet: Oh hey I can use these two obelisks to calculate the earth’s entire circumference based on
the length of their shadows
and the Earth’s curvature. Neat.
Erastothenes was born in 276 BCE.
The last mammoth died on in island off the northeast coast of Siberia in ~1650BCE.
And as I’ve pointed out previously, the Coriolis effect was known even earlier than that, although it may not have become important to gunnery.
I find it utterly bizarre that humans saw these megafauna.
“
In fact, the Wrangel mammoth’s genome carried so many detrimental
mutations that the population had suffered a “genomic meltdown,”
according to Rebekah Rogers and Montgomery Slatkin of the University of
California, Berkeley.
Analyzing the Swedish team’s mammoth data at the
gene level, they found that many genes had accumulated mutations that
would have halted synthesis of proteins before they were complete,
making the proteins useless, they report Thursday in PLOS Genetics.
“
That
“genomic meltdown”
is one of the reasons feminism is so potentially lethal, because they keep pushing for asexual reproduction, or trying to combine ovaries, when the most likely outcome is a population running about – unable to reproduce sexually since the whole “male genocide” bit – with incredibly damaged chromosomes.
Sex exists for a reason, and no, “because it’s fun” is not the answer,
sorry. It works better than reproduction otherwise. Which is why every
complex species uses it.
Intelligence requires a lot of things to be working correctly, and if you have an all female species that is over the tipping point of idiocy, then there won’t be enough people to maintain the technology to continue to reproduce. And humans will go the way of the
Wrangel
beasties.
Fortunately, feminists are horribly lazy bastards, so i doubt they’ll continue to get their way, but it does made for a decent plot for a dystopian fiction…
What …the fuck?
That went off the rails so suddenly like I thought I was just gonna learn something cool about mammoths and then WHOA.
I scrolled past this thinking “the earth is round, yes, something, something, mammoths…’
But the second time it came past I saw
That “genomic meltdown” is one of the reasons feminism is so potentially lethal
And I think I got whiplash from that pivot. I also laughed so hard that I couldn’t breathe.
Mammoths… went extinct… because they reproduced asexually by combining ova? Or smth??
What’s more, they don’t suffer from genetic degradation and have genetic diversity.
“The lizards reproduce by parthenogenesis, but offspring do not necessarily have the same chromosomes as their mother. This is because the lizards start off with twice the amount of chromosomes as would be found in sexually reproducing individuals. This diversity is maintained by combining sister chromatids instead of pairing homologous chromosomes, thus allowing a recombination and genetic diversity.”
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