Tag: luke skywalker

I can’t help myself, let me know if it’s too much. The prospect of a non-miserable Luke being alive in the same movie as Lando is too good to pass up. Lando’s got a retired general living in luxury vibe. His return to Cloud City was met with mixed results, but he helped unite the ex-Imperial sympathizers and Rebels under the New Republic. Helping him was Luke, who moved into Cloud City to start his Jedi Praexum. While Luke still has his lightsaber stored away somewhere (or maybe both), he hasn’t ignited it since the Death Star. The Jedi work more as a Doctors Without Borders, only working in medical, philanthropic, political, and peacekeeping fields. Lando’s mining companies do grant young Jedi the opportunity to acquire a lightsaber, and swordfighting is trained by some other Jedi (perhaps a cheeky Ahsoka Tano cameo.)

Originally, Luke was against restarting the Jedi Order, but on a visit to Kashyyyk, Luke and Lando met Lowbacca, a young force-sensitive Wookiee (from Legends) that struggled sleeping, what with hearing the voices of all the life around him. Lando helped him come to terms with the faults of the Jedi, and Luke decided to start the order to help those that need it. Lando is the Order’s primary funder, and often accompanies Luke on missions as a representative of the New Republic. The two could have a scene parting in the first movie.

Lando’s necklace was a gift from Luke, made with the force out of a dying star. Luke’s cloak is a gift from Lando, custom-made and designed by Lando himself. Luke’s belt is filled with badges made by his students. Lowbacca started the tradition, and each one is an Easter egg to a legends apprentice of Luke’s.
(Moth)

jewishcomeradebot:

Unpopular opinion: Everyone expecting Luke to come back and save the day in EpIX is going to be severely disappointed. If the galaxy is going to be saved it is going to be by Finn, Poe and Rey (and Rose, bring her back JJ) to do so. If Luke appears at all he’ll be tangential.

He’ll be a support and mentor figure at best, idk why people expect more of a dead guy lmao.

themandalorianwolf:

diversehighfantasy:

themandalorianwolf:

Han Solo didn’t sacrifice himself. Han Solo was murdered by Kylo Ren. In every sense of the word, through every form of media, by Kylo’s own admission and Lucasfilms confirms Kylo murdered Han Solo.

Han Solo was murdered. He did not sacrifice himself for Kylo Ren.

I’ll never understand why Reylo culture involves erasing the meaning of a scene.

I recently saw a conversation about this on reddit I think, in a “Is Kylo redeemable?” topic. Someone said that they believed that Kylo did not actually strike Han, that Han both ignited the lightsaber and used it against himself. Someone else responded that they’d thought that too, so they sat down and watched in in slo-motion over and over, and it actually does show Kylo holding the saber and stabbing Han through the upper torso.

And yet they said they still believe the theory that Han killed himself. It’s that level of refusal to put the blame on Kylo for something we saw him do that makes me hope he goes more evil in IX without the ambiguity TLJ allowed.

As much as I hate Rian Johnson’s writing, I will at least give him credit for establishing that Kylo Ren is a villain. It shows a clear understanding that the only people Kylo Ren ever cared about was his parents. He didn’t hesitate to attack Rey, but he did hesitate to attack his mother. It’s a trope called even evil has loved ones. The meaning, like the title hence that, means that even in evil person can have things they care about, usually family, which has been usually how the trope is portrayed because otherwise it comes off as corny or stupid when it’s used in a romantic sense.

The whole meaning of the scene is how Han Solo didn’t have to confront his son, but did. Kylo Ren didn’t want or have to kill his father, but did. It’s a parallel and a contrast to how Darth Vader and Luke had their relationship in the last trilogy. The son wanted to redeem the father, but the father thought it was too late. In the end the father did come back but died. In this trilogy, the father wants to redeem the son, but the son thinks it’s too late. In the end the son doesn’t come back and the father dies.

The meaning of the scene isn’t to show that the character is good. The meaning of the scene is to show that the character has more layers than we thought. Some villains you just enjoy watching because they are unapologetically evil like the Emperor or Joffrey. Other villains you enjoy watching because they are complicated like Darth Vader and Cersei.

A character can be sympathetic, have a family, be abused, and have more layers to them than just a mustache twirling evil prick, but that doesn’t mean they aren’t an evil prick. It just means there is more to them than being an evil prick.

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EXACTLY.

themandalorianwolf:

So this bull shit

Poe’s relationship to the Skywalkers:

Gets the map to Luke Skywalker

Tortured by a former Skywalker relative

He’s been working with a Skywalker for years and she’s his mentor!

Finn’s relationship with the Skywalker’s

Worked in the same organization as a Skywalker relative

Worked alongside 2 Skywalker relatives (Han and Leia)

Kylo, a Skywalker relative, is his arch enemy and foil.

Bonus

Finn’s best friend/love interest is the daughter student of Luke Skywalker.

Poe has been working with Leia for years, she’s his mentor.

Finn literally has a relationship with almost all of the Skywalkers, fought with their lightsaber, and started the entire plot of TFA.

This is bull shit that after 4 years Finn and Poe, but especially Finn, have to fight for their relevance in this damn franchise.

Fuck You, Russell Walker.

Finn was also the only character who argued that the Resistance had to go out and help Luke Skywalker against the entire fucking First Order military. You know, despite never having met the guy? It wasn’t the best idea but as Will Smith memorably said, he’s got the spirit.

Leia explicitly passed on her legacy to Poe, just as Luke passed his to Rey. And when Luke gives his “The Rebellion is reborn today” speech–setting aside whether it’s an earned moment–it’s Finn who comes up in the “war is just beginning” line.

Finn has Han’s legacy, part of it. One of the forgotten and downtrodden of the galaxy, the weary and traumatized renegade who very understandably wanted out of the fight and to get what little safety he could for himself, who ultimately came back to the fight because that was the right thing to do.

But Finn goes even beyond that. He was willing to stake his life in people around the galaxy rising up and coming to the Resistance’s aid. He was willing to give himself so there might be a tomorrow. He is the leader and symbol of the antifascist uprising that will come, that must come if there is to be any kind of future. He is the one who will tear apart the First Order’s lies. He is the man Supreme Leader Ren should fear the most, if he has any sense at all (a highly debatable point). Rose saved Finn at the risk of the entire remaining Resistance because she saw him as the hope for the future, mangled and marred as the message was.

And Supreme Butthead? He gets Jack Schitt. He gets Vader, at best, if he finally makes the right choice for once. If he does he may choose a sacrificial death that can never make up for the magnitude of his crimes, or he may get life in prison while his long-dormant conscience eats him alive. With the course he’s currently set himself on he will die defeated, unrepentent, ignoble and unmourned.

Without Finn, Rey, and Poe the Skywalker legacy is shit. It’s ashes and rot and failure. To erase two-thirds of what positivity remains in the Skywalker legacy for reasons that make no fucking sense is repugnant, reductionist, and yeah, racist. It goes against everything the sequel trilogy says it’s about.

The twitter user fangirljeanne said “Poe fails to listen to women and is still being touted as some progressive anti-masculine hero. […] While Oscar plays Poe as flirty with everyone, doesn’t change the fact that’s the character embodies traditional masculinity. Which makes his conflict with Holdo, a woman with purple hair who wears a crown and gown, emphasizing his distance from traditional femininity.”

pikrollo:

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lj-writes:

What a hot take! I’d love to print it out and use it as toilet paper!

@dasakuryo It’s another reason why this tweet isn’t even worth picking apart. I guess fangirljeanne, like RJ, can’t see anything more than a macho misogynist stereotype in Poe.

@pikrollo She’s a reylo, isn’t she. Not even going to check and risk seeing awful shit, she’s using their exact talking points.

@popavocadocat Internalized misogyny is a terrible, terrible thing…

I don’t think so? I think she’s just a really weird kylo fan who’s decided that he was intentionally queer coded because he somehow doesn’t fit into male gender norms. An whenever other lgbt would tell her she was wrong she got really mad.

You gave me the courage to go to her Twitter and in full context her points make more sense. She’s not saying people hate poor woobie Kyle because he’s queer-coded or some shit, she makes it very clear that he is evil and villainous. Rather she’s talking about the way Kylo and the First Order in general, from the Empire onward, have been portrayed in othering ways, from being British-coded to swishing around in decadent robes, which she sees as queer coding. It’s the kind of nuance that’s been ruined by all the fascist woobification in the fandom.

That said, the othering/coding is not entirely one-sided. Obi-Wan, who wears swishy robes with the best of them and has a British accent, is as clearly a good guy as anyone in the franchise. Luke himself dons the swishy robes, if not the accent, in RotJ and thereafter. It’s true that these trappings are meant to invoke a mystical and not everyday feel, but they’re not necessarily associated with evil, either. The non-Sith non-Force user members of the Empire and First Order in their uniforms are as “aggressively heterosexual” as anyone could wish, if fascist-coded. And if fangirljeanne reads Nazi aesthetics as queer-coding then that’s a whole another can of worms. Leia in ANH was dressed as fancily as Holdo. Didn’t prevent her from being a heroine. While the queer-coding and othering of villains is an interesting and debatable point, this analysis doesn’t have anywhere near the depth it needs.

Also her take on Poe, especially the nonexistent flirty-with-everyone Poe, is still garbage and it’s not a good look to use Finn as an illustration of “aggressively heterosexual.” You wanna talk queer coding? Why not talk about Finn and Poe’s instant rapport, their Battle Couple moment during the battle of Takodana, their blatantly romantic reunion scene, the fact that Oscar Isaac outright said he played Poe romantically with Finn? Why is queer coding only ever clothing and accents, especially when those go more than one way (much like Finn)? Again, there is a whole lot of depth that’s missing here.