Tag: luke skywalker

thisforsakenbeauty:

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dankxsinatra:

longstoryshortikilledhim:

has this been done yet

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Okay, #1 he was under orders from Snoke who would have undoubtedly killed him and possibly his family just to make him suffer if he disobeyed orders. And #2 you have no sense of character depth. 🙄🙄🙄

Throwing in my two cents– even though I’m not a huge fan of Kylo, I gotta back Jaz on this one. Kylo’s been manipulated by Snoke since he was young. I’ve seen a bunch of people saying that he has no excuses because he had a good, happy family– but all that is based on assumptions. (I think– I’m drawing from the movies only, I’ve not read the text adaptations. Just let me know if I’m wrong) And even if he did have a good family– does that negate the fact that he was manipulated? No. Just because someone grew up in a loving family doesn’t mean they can’t experience abuse. It would be far more inexcusable if he HAD A SUPPORT SYSTEM from his family during that time, but we’ve not been shown anything of the sort. My point is, his family couldn’t possibly adequately help, support, or protect him if they didn’t know that he was being manipulated & groomed by a malicious person.

In no way am I excusing the fact that he murdered people– that is still wrong and it is only right that he accepts that blame, responsibility, and burden. Plus as Jaz said, he was under Snoke’s thumb. If he was indeed manipulated and groomed by Snoke since he was young, then placed in a significant position, that thus imposed a greater amount of pressure on him and would’ve given Snoke more excuses to manipulate him if he made mistakes. It would be difficult to break free from a manipulator/abuser’s influence if one’s been under his thumb for a long time. So there is a reason why he did it. Not an excuse, but still a reason.

However Luke isn’t blameless. Yes, Luke didn’t make him do it. It was Snoke’s influence and ultimately Ben Solo committed it. However, when Ben was still under his tutelage, Luke sensed that something Dark and powerful was influencing Ben. Because Ben was not with his parents at the time… as a Light Jedi, as his elder, as his trainer, and as his UNCLE, it was ultimately Luke’s responsibility to confront it– to protect Ben– to guide him THROUGH the temptation. If he had done just that, things could have been different. Ben was YOUNG. Adolescents are generally self-centered have difficulties seeing beyond that, etc– they need GUIDANCE and SUPPORT. But what did Luke do? TRY TO KILL HIM IN HIS SLEEP. (Can I just say that I really hate what the new trilogy did to Luke’s character? It’s bullshit.) Seriously? OF COURSE THAT’D MAKE THINGS WORSE. Obviously that was the last straw. And who knows what things Snoke’s been telling Ben? Luke trying to kill him may have just “confirmed” whatever Snoke’s been feeding Ben. So yes, he completely and utterly failed Ben.

Moreover, everyone deserves a CHANCE at redemption, to pay for their sins. Including Kylo. But that relies entirely on the character (and the writers)’s willingness to go down that difficult path. I’m a big fan of redemption arcs, plus I like Anakin so I feel that if Ben desires so much to emulate Darth Vader (ironic, because it was Anakin’s bondage and enslavement), it only makes even more sense for him to be saved/freed at the end too, and actually go through a redemption arc. After all, Star Wars is a story of hope.

“Ben” was 23 when he killed a school full of students. That’s mighty old for an adolescent. Also the point of the OP still stands–it was ultimately he who chose his actions, and it’s both dishonest and cowardly of him to blame Luke for it. It’s impossible for him to have a redemption of any sort while he refuses to take responsibility for his own actions.

On AO3 there’s 170 fanfics about Luke/Leia as romantic way (incest) but just 4 fics about Luke/Nakari and Luke/Lando has 96 fics. These fans prefer to write about incest than biracial couple? wtf

lj-writes:

And Han/Lando has 20. Fuck fandom.

This is beyond disappointing. Luke/Nakari are Luke’s only canon ship right now. They also had a tragic ending that should be fodder for fix fics as well as the usual AUs and conventions.

@aryainwinterfell​  I am striving to give fandom the benefit of the doubt, that maybe Nakari is a comics-only character and that makes her less well known. Even that excuse doesn’t hold true for the Lando ships, however, so like… yeah, beyond disappointing.

Rey’s Lack of Action

jewishcomeradebot:

petro1986:

big-hungry-gryphon:

ljones41:

Why didn’t Rey continue to question Kylo Ren’s excuse for murdering some of Luke’s other padawans?  I never understood that.  Why didn’t Rey continue to question his lack of an excuse for murdering Han?  What did Luke padawans do that led to their slaughter?  Did they deliberately tried to harm Kylo Ren as well?  Did they kidnap Leia or someone else that Ren loved and tortured that person to death for a month?  Why didn’t Rey berate Kylo Ren for nearly killing Finn?

Why didn’t Rey continue to question Kylo Ren’s crimes?  Why didn’t Rian Johnson allow her to continue questioning Ren’s action?

Why did Kylo Ren kill the other padawans in the first place? The more I think about it, the more I’m starting to believe this movie is worse than the bloody prequels…

Why did Luke think Vader still had good inside him? Once you head down the rabbit hole of thinking about the story of Star Wars, you get more and more close to the plot-hole event horizon…

1) Luke had something like a year to mull things through, Rey has had a max of two days since Kylo tortured her, tried to kill her, tried to kill her only friend, did kill a man she’d come to view as family (something she’d always longed to have). There is no time at all for Rey to get any kind of emotional distance to the crimes Kylo committed against her and people she care about.

2) Luke has a connection to Vader. One he suspects at first – Vader’s words just won’t leave him be even though he might try to deny them – which is then confirmed by Yoda and Obi-Wan. What is more, Vader is Luke’s father and it’s very clear from ESB that Luke has something of a father complex. 

Anakin is this mythical Jedi Knight, a legendary figure of good to Luke that he can’t live up to. Then he learns that this mythical figure is in fact the galaxy’s greatest villain. Luke has to believe that there’s good in Vader, that Anakin is still in there somewhere, or his whole world falls apart. It just so turns out that he was right, or at least in part. I won’t so much say that there was good in Vader as that Luke hit on that one button that drove both Vader and Anakin, family. When Luke pleads with Vader to save him at the end of the Death Star duel he’s pleading with him as a son to his father, that is what makes Vader finally turn against the Emperor.

Anakin turned to the Dark Side in an attempt to save his family, and fails to do so. Over twenty years later Vader turns against the Dark Side to do the same thing, this time succeeding.

But the tl;dr here is that Luke has a vested interest in Vader and his possible goodness given their relationship, what connection does Rey carry to Kylo? None, absolutely none. Had they been related, then I could see her drive for her family cling to a desperate hope the same way Luke did thirty years prior. Even with Rey Random had she build a connection to Luke even if they weren’t related by blood this could have worked, again if she saw Luke as family. Heck, Rian could have used the connection she build with Han in this way if he wanted to, but instead Rey’s feelings in this regard is never dealt with. She once asks Kylo angrily why he killed him and then the subject is forever dropped.

Rey, unlike Luke, has no in-universe reason to believe in Kylo’s goodness. We’re offered some vague, handwavey line about her “trying to save the Resistance” but no convincing argument or why she thinks he is their last hope (and not herself) or why he would ever listen to her as he’s done nothing but dismiss, manipulate and demean her since the movie started.

In short. With Rey as with all the characters in this movie, Rian gives jack all about what makes them tick. Which surprisingly makes him a worse writer than even George. Inept though George often was he usually had a handle on what drove the characters and let them drive the plot, rather than let the plot dictate the characters actions. 

(Only time he deviated was AotC which until TLJ was considered the worst Star Wars movie for exactly this reason. In fact, Rian managed to copy every single one of George’s flaws without having a single one of his positive traits or his charm. Hence he made the worst Star Wars movie to date)

corellian-smuggler:

To me Luke Skywalker will always be the young man who rushed to the aid of a girl he’d never even met—whose selfless courage and desire to help defined both the beginning of his journey, and its end.

To me Luke Skywalker will always be the character who was disbelieving and angry to learn that the apparent mercenary he’d met was choosing money and self-preservation over the rebellion—the PEOPLE—who needed him. He’ll always be the character to whom it was unthinkable and inexcusable to abandon those in danger, to refuse to fight for what’s right. He’ll always be, “They could use a good pilot like you. You’re turning your back on them.”

In my eyes Luke Skywalker will always be the man risking his life for the cause—for the galaxy—so that others might one day live in freedom and peace. He will always be the pilot, the rebel, the soldier who would not let tyranny stand unopposed.

And to me Luke Skywalker will always be—indisputably—the character who would never forsake his loved ones. Who would never give them up, and never give up on them. He’ll always be the character whose loyalty—to his friends, to his family—was unfaltering. He will always be, “I’ve got to go to them.” Will always be, “They’re my friends. I’ve got to help them.” Always, “And sacrifice Han and Leia?” Always, “That is why I have to go.”

Luke Skywalker will always be hope. Irrevocably and without question, Luke is the very embodiment of it. To me, Luke Skywalker will always be the character who says, “I can’t kill my own father.” The character whose belief in the Light and in humanity is so true and so strong that he saves the galaxy—so powerful that he saves his father’s soul.

Luke Skywalker is “Never! I’ll never turn to the dark side.” He is, at his heart and in my heart, the man who sees so clearly, who understands so completely, that he casts aside his lightsaber rather than fight to save his own life—not because he’s given up or because he’s weak or a coward, but because of his faith—because Luke Skywalker will die sooner than give into hatred. He will lay down his weapon sooner than turn to darkness.

To me, Luke Skywalker will always be this truth. He will always be the hero that realized the TRUE meaning of the Force, who understood what, for all their wisdom and good intentions, his masters did not: that it is love, not detachment, that saves. It is the strength of love, the belief in love, the power of love that saves us. Luke Skywalker will always be this, for me. He will always be this love, this faith where faith seems impossible, and this enduring hope where it seems that all hope has been lost.

And most importantly of all, to me Luke Skywalker will always be not only the character who loved, who hoped, who had faith, but the character whose story tells us—implores us, promises us—that this love is not in vain. That such faith is not foolish. That GOODNESS like that—because to me, Luke Skywalker is and will always be goodness—is not weakness, but strength that overcomes all else. Luke Skywalker is the Light Side. He is the hero we all need to believe can exist—the hero that reality—that war and violence and maliciousness—so cruelly tries to tell us could never be.

That is Luke Skywalker. He is this beacon. Luke is the hope that prevails. The faith that is rewarded. The journey that tells us that love can and will overcome evil even against the most impossible odds. Luke Skywalker is the story that begs us not to give up, that leads us to take a stand against oppression, and hatred, and hopeless darkness—the character who tells us to believe as we all, as human beings, so desperately want to.

To me, no matter what, Luke Skywalker will always be,

“I am a Jedi, like my father before me.”

ridleydaisyy:

finn appreciation week day 3 – favorite relationship: finn & rey

For what felt like the millionth time in a row, Finn dropped the floating rock, Luke Skywalker looking over at him with a light chuckle. Rey was swiping blindly with a stick and pretending it was a saber in the corner, focused and intent. Finn watched her with a sigh, a soft smile tugging the corners of his lips before Master Skywalker’s hand came snapping in his face.

“Don’t fret, Finn, you should’ve seen me when I was first learning,” Luke said warmly, extending a hand to help the younger man to his feet. Finn brushed his pants off with a sigh, his gaze still riveted towards Rey.

“How is she so good, Master Skywalker? She’s learning just as much as I am.”

Luke smirked, “Oh she’s not as good as she wants you to think.” With a wink, he extended his hand and picked up the rock Finn had been practicing with. He watched with fascination as it levitated into the air only to go flying towards Rey’s shoulder. The firm stone connected sharply with the woman’s shoulder and she let out a yelp of surprise before tumbling forward, her stick-saber flying out of her hand.

Finn walked over, slightly guilty yet still holding in a chuckle at the disgruntled look on Rey’s face. He watched as Rey slowly sat up, clumps of dirt stuck to her face and in her hair. Hazel eyes shot up towards Finn before Rey just began to laugh, her cheeks flaring up with brief embarrassment.

“Did you encourage him to do that?” Rey asked, watching as Finn tried his best to look innocent.

“Of course not, it was a Jedi test,” Finn teased, watching as Rey got to her feet with an even more playful look on her face.

“Alright then, let’s spar. See what you got.” Rey used the Force to call her stick back to her, her eyebrow raising in challenge. Finn looked over to Luke who just nodded them along with a warm smile.

“You’re going down desert girl,” Finn said with a laugh, calling his own stick towards him. The island was full of them after all, and it always made easy practice for Luke Skywalker’s best students.

The both of them got into their preferred fighting stances, immersing themselves deep into training mode and allowing the Force to blanket them.

In seconds, Rey already had the first move, Finn easily sidestepping to evade it only to whirl back around, his intentions set on Rey’s exposed back. Rey ducked just in time however, spinning outwards in an attempt to take Finn’s legs out from under him.

Finn jumped up in a flip and slashed out towards her neck, the stick slamming hard against the other stick as Rey reached up to block.

Their motion was fluid, the perfect pair, as not one could get a strike in on the other. They had trained together for a long time, and each time they sparred together, they grew more and more in sync with each other’s fighting styles.

The Force hummed through both of their veins’, pushing them further and further and allowing them to power through without breaking a sweat. Luke continued to look on, impressed.

However, after a good few minutes, Finn finally found a flaw in Rey’s form. Smirking and shielding his thoughts so Rey couldn’t sense his plan through their bond, he ducked under her stick, jumped over her swung out leg and whirled just in time to pierce through her defenses and press his stick into her abdomen. Rey looked down with wide eyes before she laughed once more.

“I guess you have been practicing.”

“You know it,” Finn said with a chuckle, pulling back and giving the customary end-of-spar bow, in which Rey quickly followed suit.

A sudden sound startled the both of them to look up and see Luke clapping, his eyes crinkled in amusement and making him look much younger than his years. “That was quite a battle, Padawans, I’m proud of both of you.”

“Thank you Master,” Finn and Rey said in unison, playfully nudging each other in the ribs despite Luke watching them with an amused shake of his head.

“I think that’s all the training you two require for the day. You should get some rest.”

Finn and Rey nodded and bowed once more to Luke before turning away and darting down the stone stairs, eager to go explore more of the island.

They held hands the whole way down, Luke pretending he didn’t notice as he turned away to tend to his duties.

@finnappreciationweek

leg-grestrade:

I have to thank @stitchyarts (and a great friend) for making this beautiful commission happen. Ever since Daisy Ridley said she felt Luke would give Rey away at her wedding, I’ve had this idea floating in my head. Despite my issues with TLJ, I would still love to see something exactly like what’s shown in this art: Rey and Force Ghost Luke sharing the father-daughter dance after her wedding to newly minted Jedi Knight Finn.

Thank you so much @stitchyarts!

@finnreyfridays

Why Luke Skywalker of ‘Star Wars: The Last Jedi’ Doesn’t Feel Like Luke

threadsketchier:

culturevulture73:

Another good article. 

This big change to Luke happening without anyone around also feels like an invalidation of what he learned and went through in the original trilogy. Really, Luke already ought to know better about the hubris and personal pride of the Jedi, because nobody has been failed by the Jedi like Luke has. His most trusted mentors lied to him and held back key information about him and his family, in order to manipulate him into killing his father. Luke ends “Return of the Jedi” disillusioned by his elders, and spends most of that story in pain. Even after redeeming Vader, Luke seems nearly broken by his loss. The ending of “Return of the Jedi,” with his father’s quiet funeral, is a distinctly downbeat moment, during a party no less, because we see a pained Luke struggling with everything he’s seen and experienced.

Luke Skywalker knows better than anyone the failings of the Jedi, because he lived them. To see him repeat the same mistakes of Yoda and Obi-Wan feels like a backstep. The man we watched Luke become and the man he is in “The Last Jedi” are out of sync. We missed what could have made him this way, and a few short lines of dialogue in which Luke explains a moment of weakness seems insufficient when set against three movies of character development.

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By the end of “Return of the Jedi,” Luke isn’t a guy who sees darkness in someone and fires up his blade to strike them down; he’s a guy who sees darkness in someone, and reaches out a hand to help them.

LOUDER FOR EVERYBODY IN THE BACK

Why Luke Skywalker of ‘Star Wars: The Last Jedi’ Doesn’t Feel Like Luke