“Those seven years, they do matter. The person you are at 17 and the person you are even at 16: totally different; and from 17 to 24 there’s a substantial difference. And I like that difference. You do need a relationship in which one has all the experience with life, and the other is just beginning to discover what life is.” – André Aciman, author of Call Me By Your Name (x)
Instead of watching call me by your name, which was explicitly written to romanticize a sexual relationship between a 17 year old and a 24 year old, how about you support these gay teen dramas instead.
Saturday Church Street comes out January 12 2018 (USA)
Love, Simon comes out March 18 2018 (USA)
Moonlight is available on DVD worldwide
Love of Siam, a Thai movie is available online with english subtitles
The Incredible Story of Two Girls In Love is available on DVD/online and actually deals with the issue of teens sleeping with adults
Briefly about Rose Tico and “Asian/Vietnamese women representation”
I feel a need to put this opinion of mine into words and spread it to this fuckin fandom because literally y’all are horrible.
I am not obligated to feel the need of having to like Rose Tico as a character in TLJ just because Kelly is American-Vietnamese.
Because, God, despite Kelly’s effort, Rose Tico in TLJ is a h-o-r-r-i-b-l-e character.
Let me get this straight: I am Asian. I am Vietnamese. Solid and proud. You do not know how pumped I was when I first knew there would be not only one, but t-w-o Asian females in TLJ,
Both of them are Vietnameses.
One of them is an actress whom I absolutely adore, Ngô Thanh Vân (or, Veronica Ngô). I literally count down everyday till I finally got to go see TLJ (my birthday!!! because in Europe it’s out on 13 Dec).
And God was I disappointed. Paige died a few minutes into the movie, and Rose was written horribly, terribly, annoyingly unbearable. I was so FUCKIN disappointed.
Because, if this is what you call a “representation”, please, take it away. I don’t want this. Either you do it properly, or you don’t.
I need a representation that is solid and make me feel excited whenever I see my people on screen; I want to come out of the theatre with excitement because Asian women!!!! Vietnamese women!!!!! Got treat well and great!!!! Not just some fuckin randomly insert as a shield called “representation” to prevent people to come after your horrid writing and your incapable of potrait and develop a character properly.
Rose Tico, or more specifically, casting Kelly Marie Tran, an American-Vietnamese as Rose Tico, is an act to caused conflicts about a poorly written character, so that the writer could hide under it to avoid criticism, like, “hey she’s a POC, an Asian, a Vietnamese, why are you disliking her, that’s your representation! Don’t you like being represented?”
Oh of course I love seeing my fellow Vietnameses on screen after seeing over and over again Hollywood’s idea of “Asians” is either Chineses or Japaneses.
But I do not want *this*. Seeing Rose Tico got hate and called “the new Jar Jar Bink” pains me, but even I couldn’t bring myself to like this character. There’s nothing about her in TLJ could make me go “wooooo I like her!!!” Nothing. She’s too…blank. And was written as an one-way and tasteless character.
So yes. I’d love a representation. But no. I am not obligated to love Rose Tico in TLJ because she’s my “representation.”
I, and my people, we want more, and we want better. We want an equal opportunity just as any other POC, to have an awesome, well-potrayed, well-written character to represent us.
So please, stop solving the idea of “one must support Rose Tico because she’s the Asian/Vietnamese character” down my throat.
I’m not talking about the real racist/sexist cases, I’m talking only about most of the blogs defending Rose Tico with the reason above.
And that’s an opinion coming from a female Vietnamese who loves SW a little bit too much.
Thank you for this. The way people use Kelly/Rose to shield RJ from criticism is super gross.
Thank you for reblogging to spread this opinion to as many as possible. I’m tired of seeing people accusing me for being racist for disliking the character of Rose Tico, like why would I do that? It’s even more exhausting seeing people using Kelly as a shield to prove that RJ is “not racist” because he casted a female POC in his so called movie.
Call me needy, but I’d like to see my people on screen properly, not as an excuse to anyone.
It’s so frustrating because as I understand it Vietnam has a long and proud history of women warriors like the Tru’ng sisters, and the Tico sisters would have been a lovely reflection of that. I was so excited about the resilience and tenderness of Vietnamese women being on full display in a galaxy far, far away. Instead we get Paige dying within minutes of appearing (Veronica was amazing with the little she was given and it breaks my heart that she could have done so much more) and Rose given a story that is both confusing and offensive. They had so much potential with these incredible actors, so much, and RJ pissed it away out of his ineptitude and intellectual laziness. This man is simply incapable of writing women and his men aren’t that great either.
In deed we have!!! Not to say Vân (Veronica) is literally the queen of action movie, her martial arts action scenes have always been aesthetically blessing and incredible, that man didn’t know what he’d missed!
Omg I only watched a small sample on YouTube but she is incredible–easily the most talented action star to grace Star Wars since Donnie Yen. If they’d actually utilized her and kept her kicking (literally) into Episode IX it would have been a huge help in the Chinese market, too. RIAN YOU INCOMPETENT ASS.
Briefly about Rose Tico and “Asian/Vietnamese women representation”
I feel a need to put this opinion of mine into words and spread it to this fuckin fandom because literally y’all are horrible.
I am not obligated to feel the need of having to like Rose Tico as a character in TLJ just because Kelly is American-Vietnamese.
Because, God, despite Kelly’s effort, Rose Tico in TLJ is a h-o-r-r-i-b-l-e character.
Let me get this straight: I am Asian. I am Vietnamese. Solid and proud. You do not know how pumped I was when I first knew there would be not only one, but t-w-o Asian females in TLJ,
Both of them are Vietnameses.
One of them is an actress whom I absolutely adore, Ngô Thanh Vân (or, Veronica Ngô). I literally count down everyday till I finally got to go see TLJ (my birthday!!! because in Europe it’s out on 13 Dec).
And God was I disappointed. Paige died a few minutes into the movie, and Rose was written horribly, terribly, annoyingly unbearable. I was so FUCKIN disappointed.
Because, if this is what you call a “representation”, please, take it away. I don’t want this. Either you do it properly, or you don’t.
I need a representation that is solid and make me feel excited whenever I see my people on screen; I want to come out of the theatre with excitement because Asian women!!!! Vietnamese women!!!!! Got treat well and great!!!! Not just some fuckin randomly insert as a shield called “representation” to prevent people to come after your horrid writing and your incapable of potrait and develop a character properly.
Rose Tico, or more specifically, casting Kelly Marie Tran, an American-Vietnamese as Rose Tico, is an act to caused conflicts about a poorly written character, so that the writer could hide under it to avoid criticism, like, “hey she’s a POC, an Asian, a Vietnamese, why are you disliking her, that’s your representation! Don’t you like being represented?”
Oh of course I love seeing my fellow Vietnameses on screen after seeing over and over again Hollywood’s idea of “Asians” is either Chineses or Japaneses.
But I do not want *this*. Seeing Rose Tico got hate and called “the new Jar Jar Bink” pains me, but even I couldn’t bring myself to like this character. There’s nothing about her in TLJ could make me go “wooooo I like her!!!” Nothing. She’s too…blank. And was written as an one-way and tasteless character.
So yes. I’d love a representation. But no. I am not obligated to love Rose Tico in TLJ because she’s my “representation.”
I, and my people, we want more, and we want better. We want an equal opportunity just as any other POC, to have an awesome, well-potrayed, well-written character to represent us.
So please, stop solving the idea of “one must support Rose Tico because she’s the Asian/Vietnamese character” down my throat.
I’m not talking about the real racist/sexist cases, I’m talking only about most of the blogs defending Rose Tico with the reason above.
And that’s an opinion coming from a female Vietnamese who loves SW a little bit too much.
Thank you for this. The way people use Kelly/Rose to shield RJ from criticism is super gross.
Thank you for reblogging to spread this opinion to as many as possible. I’m tired of seeing people accusing me for being racist for disliking the character of Rose Tico, like why would I do that? It’s even more exhausting seeing people using Kelly as a shield to prove that RJ is “not racist” because he casted a female POC in his so called movie.
Call me needy, but I’d like to see my people on screen properly, not as an excuse to anyone.
It’s so frustrating because as I understand it Vietnam has a long and proud history of women warriors like the Tru’ng sisters, and the Tico sisters would have been a lovely reflection of that. I was so excited about the resilience and tenderness of Vietnamese women being on full display in a galaxy far, far away. Instead we get Paige dying within minutes of appearing (Veronica was amazing with the little she was given and it breaks my heart that she could have done so much more) and Rose given a story that is both confusing and offensive. They had so much potential with these incredible actors, so much, and RJ pissed it away out of his ineptitude and intellectual laziness. This man is simply incapable of writing women and his men aren’t that great either.
Briefly about Rose Tico and “Asian/Vietnamese women representation”
I feel a need to put this opinion of mine into words and spread it to this fuckin fandom because literally y’all are horrible.
I am not obligated to feel the need of having to like Rose Tico as a character in TLJ just because Kelly is American-Vietnamese.
Because, God, despite Kelly’s effort, Rose Tico in TLJ is a h-o-r-r-i-b-l-e character.
Let me get this straight: I am Asian. I am Vietnamese. Solid and proud. You do not know how pumped I was when I first knew there would be not only one, but t-w-o Asian females in TLJ,
Both of them are Vietnameses.
One of them is an actress whom I absolutely adore, Ngô Thanh Vân (or, Veronica Ngô). I literally count down everyday till I finally got to go see TLJ (my birthday!!! because in Europe it’s out on 13 Dec).
And God was I disappointed. Paige died a few minutes into the movie, and Rose was written horribly, terribly, annoyingly unbearable. I was so FUCKIN disappointed.
Because, if this is what you call a “representation”, please, take it away. I don’t want this. Either you do it properly, or you don’t.
I need a representation that is solid and make me feel excited whenever I see my people on screen; I want to come out of the theatre with excitement because Asian women!!!! Vietnamese women!!!!! Got treat well and great!!!! Not just some fuckin randomly insert as a shield called “representation” to prevent people to come after your horrid writing and your incapable of potrait and develop a character properly.
Rose Tico, or more specifically, casting Kelly Marie Tran, an American-Vietnamese as Rose Tico, is an act to caused conflicts about a poorly written character, so that the writer could hide under it to avoid criticism, like, “hey she’s a POC, an Asian, a Vietnamese, why are you disliking her, that’s your representation! Don’t you like being represented?”
Oh of course I love seeing my fellow Vietnameses on screen after seeing over and over again Hollywood’s idea of “Asians” is either Chineses or Japaneses.
But I do not want *this*. Seeing Rose Tico got hate and called “the new Jar Jar Bink” pains me, but even I couldn’t bring myself to like this character. There’s nothing about her in TLJ could make me go “wooooo I like her!!!” Nothing. She’s too…blank. And was written as an one-way and tasteless character.
So yes. I’d love a representation. But no. I am not obligated to love Rose Tico in TLJ because she’s my “representation.”
I, and my people, we want more, and we want better. We want an equal opportunity just as any other POC, to have an awesome, well-potrayed, well-written character to represent us.
So please, stop solving the idea of “one must support Rose Tico because she’s the Asian/Vietnamese character” down my throat.
I’m not talking about the real racist/sexist cases, I’m talking only about most of the blogs defending Rose Tico with the reason above.
And that’s an opinion coming from a female Vietnamese who loves SW a little bit too much.
Thank you for this. The way people use Kelly/Rose to shield RJ from criticism is super gross.
Fans who complain that canon romance between female characters takes away from representation of female friendships are being lesbophobic and biphobic, period.
Your mom almost got it, lol. I mean, I don’t let men of color, or for that matter women, off the hook regarding their sins against female characters, but it’s undeniable that the media is very white male dominated. The fact that so many of them suck at writing female characters doesn’t mean female characters in themselves are the problem.
Every single white lesbian who has spent years complaining about the lack of lesbians on screen had better support The CW’s Black Lightning.
Anissa Pierce (portrayed by Nafessa Williams):
is a canon lesbian with superpowers (who goes by the name Thunder) who has, among other abilities, the power to make herself invulnerable (this means she’s essentially unkillable-although she can be hurt/injured!)
Her comic-canon girlfriend Grace Choi (Chantal Thuy) has already been cast:
Grace is half-Amazon, and has superhuman durability and rapid healing abilities-which also help to make her relatively invincible!
Also, they’re really cute in the comics:
So basically-support this lesbian, interracial, basically invulnerable couple on the CW’s Black Lightning-airing January 16th, 2017!!!!!
I’m just wondering @kylosjedi why you won’t @ me on tumblr but you want to screenshot my post and talk about it on twitter (a platform I don’t use very much) and act as though I’m demonizing Rose when all I said was that her scene with Finn was scary. Because you know, I was speaking as a fucking black person who was watching another black person be hurt on screen. Idk your race but it’s sort of ridiculous to frame my concern as racist or problematic when all I’m doing is talking about how that scene affected me.
And as for Rey well, lmao I don’t actually rock with her like that, and that scene between her and Finn where she also knocks him on his ass has been talked about by black people all fucking ready. Are you black? If not then you don’t get to police my reactions to a scene that mirrors violent anti blackness.
So if you’re gonna talk about the shit on my blog, be about it and reblog from me. Or, you know, @ me.
The way people frame any attempts to point out the violent antiblackness in that scene as anti Rose is fucking ugly and insidious. They think they’re slick, using an Asian woman as a shield for a white man. Fuck them, a ton of Asian fans have expressed their discomfort with that scene and we’re pissed that we can’t unconditionally celebrate Rose as representation for Asian women in Star Wars.
Im so grateful for Sonequa Martin Green for giving us Michael Burnham, I’m just so happy for it. To be honest, i feel like when everyone learned that there was going to a black female lead on Star Trek, there wasnt a big reception for it, like there was for the new doctor on Doctor Who. Especially when that subject was trending for a couple days here on Tumblr. If y’all happy and grateful for Michael Burnham, reblog/like.
God, I am so grateful for Michael Burnham. I haven’t loved a Trek character this much since Ben Sisko. She’s smart and strong, but that doesn’t mean she has to sacrifice her humanity for those attributes.
I love her natural hair. I love the fact that she gets to have a love interest (and a very cute one to boot!)
I love her multiplicity. I love her interactions with the other members of the crew. I love that she grows as a character throughout the course of the season. I LOVE the fact that this show stars a Black woman and everything is filtered through the eyes of a Black woman. I love how she’s caring but doesn’t need to sacrifice her own ideas or values for others. I love that we get to see a Black woman be a science specialist, and actually look at and TALK about science. I love that her knowledge and skill set is valued. I love that Ash treats her with respect and warmth (and that she does the same for him.)
Michael Burnham is amazing and I’m so grateful she’s now a part of the Trek canon!
My feelings exactly. I don’t want Asian representation to come at the expense of representation for other groups. I just can’t squee about Rose uncritically while disregarding how she treated Finn. And it’s super shitty because this was a first for Star Wars and a lot of us are unable to be celebrate her to the fullest because of Johnston’s terrible decisions.
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