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God, they’d better not be Sleepy Hollow-ing Finn. I mean I’m pretty positive they’re not killing him, but he could still be seriously sidelined.

This isn’t really new they have always had very little Finn merchandise. It’s the same old bull shit Disney has been pulling with there black characters for a very long time. It’s the same reason there’s very little princess Tiana merchandise, Falcon, Iron patriot, Ect.

Disney doesn’t care about there black characters except for the ones from black panther and that’s really an anomaly for them.

What’s the source for Finn being removed from new TFA merch? There is definitely merch that leaves him (but not Poe) off going back to 2015. I have pics to prove it. But I had a much harder time finding FN-2187 merch (blood streaked helmet) until the last year or so. SuperHeroStuff has several Finn shirts for sale, including an FN2187 and a “I’m kind of a big deal” tee I never saw when TFA came out. Not to mention WalMart sells multiple Finn and Rey figure sets and other Finn toys, well more than Poe toys, especially from TFA lines.

So what are they basing it on?

Yeah I’ve had the same experience as you, that Finn merch (and FN-2187 merch) is easier to find now than it has been so far. And no I’m not talking about shops where I’ve been asking about it. I mean just seeing it in the normal toy/figure/SW/whatever section of the shop along side all the rest. 

I used to have to dig – or ask – about it, now I can often find it on the shelf. Or at least more often than I used to.

I’m not saying it doesn’t/hasn’t happened, but it conflicts very much with my own experience. So I too would like some actual examples of this.

Disney parks and there stores are a very different situation. They have very little if any Finn merchandise that’s not just an action figure. I know cause every time I go to Disney I ask what Finn merchandise do you have? Shit I was in Disneyland right after tlj came out. All Finn got was a couple figurines Rose didn’t get much either. Yet the porgs where fucking everywhere. They do this with all there non-white Star Wars characters. I made a post about it awhile back and seems nothing has changed.

You can go to Disney official website and see there dismally small supply of Finn merchandise. Meanwhile kylo, rey, luke, Han and Leia are easy to find. Do to the solo movie we did get more Lando merchandise but I see it falling off soon. I remember that campaign about where’s Rey and how she got all new toys and merchandise. Wish we could get that same energy for Finn the current male lead of the series.

But people are saying Finn has been “removed” from new TFA merchandise, not that Disney parks stock less Finn than WalMart, which has been true from the beginning. All that says is that people who shop at Disney are less interested in Finn merch than people who shop at WalMart, where there are a decent number of Finn items.

There’s a big difference between Finn merch not being on shelves vs Finn Merch not being made or removed. If anything, Finn merch sitting on the shelves is a bad thing. It means no one is buying it.

Yup and the only toys I’ve ever seen in the 80% off bargain bin are Kylo and Pretorian guards. The dollar store near me still has unsold $1 Kylo Ren items from three years ago, while the Finn versions are long gone (and I know they were there because I bought some of them). That’s all anecdotal, too – the business journal articles about Kylo items massively underselling aren’t, though. The business of merchandising is separate from the business of making the films (look at FoD, Finn has two episodes, Kylo has zero, yet there was Kylo doll). And in the case of LF, their merchandising Dept has always had tremendous bias in favor of white buyers who want white toys.

What are the business articles describing the underselling off kylo items?

The focus on Kylo merchandise over the heroes, especially Rey, was a scandal in early 2016 covered extensively in the media.

John Marcotte of Heroic Girls was widely quoted after he spoke with Disney execs about the lack of Rey merchandise when TFA was released. He said they were “blindsided” with the lack of interest in Kylo, who they expected to be the breakout character. He said, quote:

“Now they’re stuck with vast amounts of Kylo Ren product that is not moving and a tidal wave of complaints about a lack of Rey items.”

The miscalculation led to a TFA script rewrite to focus more on Finn, Poe and Rey. RJ had planned to focus on his own new characters, as well as Kylo, presumably.

TFA toy sales were huge despite of Disney’s miscalculation. Top TFA toys per Google research were the app enabled BB8, Millennium Falcon toys and Lego sets, Stormtrooper figures, and Rey items once they started rolling out.

It’s also been widely reported that TLJ’s toy sales fell by 47% compared to TFA sales. Hasbro CEO blamed releasing the toys in September, but later noted that Star Wars merchandise was picking up online (where fans have choices beyond leftover TLJ merch like the Pretorian guards that didn’t sell).

The cult of Kylo Ren in fandom and on social media has not translated into blockbuster sales of Kylo merchandise.