rose-griffes:

Is there any kind of non-shippy fic exploring Rey and Kylo’s Force bond? Because honestly, that whole Force bond is ripe for dramatic exploration (think Ezra Bridger and Darth Maul), but it definitely throws me off any interest in reading it if there’s a mutual romantic feelings element. (I wouldn’t even be that keen on Kylo having one-sided feelings~ for Rey, given the whole “blame her for Snoke’s death and later order her ship to be shot down and also try to kill everybody in the resistance” thing.)

Honestly, the Force bond stuff has a lot of fic potential for not-at-all-romantic Rey and Kylo. Not something I’d want to see in episode IX, but in fic it would be fascinating to explore the idea that Rey tapping into Kylo’s Force-abilities is something that can be affected and even stopped… and that Rey might have to re-learn how to do certain things in the Force for herself once the Force-bond is severed. Or that Kylo could tap into what Rey knows by using that Force-bond, and he attempts to harm the Resistance with what he learns.

People posting fic to AO3 need to learn that the & represents a non-romantic connection. In other words: there are multiple reylo fics using the tag Rey & Kylo Ren that should instead be tagged Rey/Kylo Ren.

Seriously there is not enough genfic about Rey and Kylo, and not enough genfic in general though that’s another (if related) complaint. Her becoming more powerful through the Force Bond is in fact an interesting idea that should have been shown and dealt with in the movie, and I think it also serves as a metaphor for the way people can hesitate to cut off unhealthy ties because they gain something through them–including survival itself. Like maybe Kylo threatens to cut the bond himself when Rey rejects his offer, warning her that she will lose her accelerated learning and will be defeated, giving her a real choice to make and actual suspense. She would in fact start losing, but the ship getting cut in half would save her much like the planet falling apart in TFA saved him. And then there would be other fallout later, Rey has to find harder but ultimately more lasting ways to train, Kylo uses information he gleaned from the Bond as you say. Like, give me actual consequences, choices, and tension. I did like that the idea of Kylo Ren as some poor misunderstood woobie was thoroughly trashed and Rey had one of the better arcs in the movie having to grow beyond her insecurities that he preyed on, but the execution was weak compared to the potential of the idea.

shellstrapon:

nbjanet:

duvallon:

why are jason’s only solutions for any problem either ‘molotov cocktail’ or ‘marriage’

Most people: fight or flight

Jason Mendoza: fight or fuck

He’s got the the face of a Greek god and the problem solving ability of one too

Lando Calrissian: An Unsung Hero of The Star Wars Universe – Black Sci-Fi

diversehighfantasy:

dreaminginsteadofsleeping42:

While on the topic of Finn, it occurred to me today that he does exactly what Kylo’s family/Rey wants Benny Boy to do: reject the First Order and find his place along the “good guys.” Now, this could be completely unrelated, BUT maybe Finn rejecting the First Order and becoming a “good guy” (I honestly don’t know why I feel the need to use quotation marks for this) is foreshadowing of Kylo’s story or maybe a parallel of some sorts? Regardless, Kylo and Finn start out the trilogy in pretty similar positions and then go down very different paths from that point. I’m hoping they have some sort of interaction that highlights the similarities of their stories in Episode IX cause Finn and Kylo actually have a lot in common.

Finn and Kylo are each others’ foils, as they contrast each other in every way.

Finn is not a device for Kylo’s story, he’s a protagonist, so I highly doubt his story is meant to foreshadow Kylo becoming a “good guy.”

Kylo highlights Finn’s heroism, not the other way around. If anything, Finn’s story highlights Kylo’s lack of anything resembling heroism, because Kylo was actually handed freedom from the FO on a silver platter multiple times and refused, while Finn, who made the choice to leave all on his own, had to fight his way out, and put himself at a grave risk by leaving.

There is one sense in which Finn’s choice might be seen as a foreshadowing for Kylo’s redemption: A mistaken one, and it was done in TLJ. Rey’s goal of bringing Kylo to the Light and her belief that he would turn make a lot more sense if she was thinking of Finn and how he turned away from evil. Except Kylo yet again proved himself to be the opposite of Finn and made their contrasts all the clearer. So, in my opinion, the foreshadowing that op theorized about has already been played with and discarded.

I’m also curious, what do Finn and Kylo Ren have in common? I’ve actually tried to think of something, anything, and didn’t come up with much. For the most part I only see contrasts.

Contrasts:

Birth and background: Stolen from a family he never knew/Grew up with loving parents and uncles galore
Personality: Exceptional empathy considered to be his only problem/Showed signs of entitlement and violence
Affiliation: Left an evil organization/Voluntarily joined one
Circumstances of changing sides: Refused to kill innocents/Willingly killed innocents
Relationship with Poe: Rescue, friendship/Capture, torture
Relationship with Rey: Helping, affirming/Hurting, tearing down
Endgame with abuser: Refuted Phasma’s abusive training/tried to continue Snoke’s abuse with Rey in his old role

Commonalities:

Left family for an education–but only if we reeeeallly stretch the definition of “left” and “education” in Finn’s case
Both considered exceptional and talented in training–which is not saying much tbh, action movie heroes and villains tend to be extraordinary individuals
Went from a place of doubt to certainty: The only commonality I can really see, if we interpret Kylo Ren’s internal conflict as doubt.

So I’m not seeing “a lot” in common, personally, maybe I’m missing something.

Omg are you in your Cassian Mockingjay feels too? It was one of my first thoughts after watching RO, that Jynn was the wrong protagonist and the heroine should have been Cassiana (I love Diego Luna but imagine her as a South American indigenous woman??) setting the Rebellion alight with inspiration, with Jynn as a courier/quest object figure and eventual girlfriend.

cassandor:

lj-writes:

cassandor:

okay I have so many emotions about THG and Rogue One specifically and in conjunction with each other so this is about to be a HUGE can of worms AND you touched on female!Cassian which is ANOTHER can of worms so now I’m just going to break down all these bits into sections and move on from there

but *cracks knuckles*

List of TLDRs (oh yeah this post IS LONG):

TLDR1: Katniss, as the Mockingjay, is hope personified.

TLDR2: Cassian is hope personified, and both he and Katniss are symbols of hope, and are the basis of rebellion (both literally as recruiters and figuratively as hope)

TLDR3: Jyn is most like Katniss

TLDR 4: Jyn being the lead for Rogue One makes the most sense

TLDR 5: heck yeah woc and especially heck yeah woc in star wars and also heck yeah Jyn is bi

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I love Cassian and Peeta and R1 and THG with my wholeeeeeee entire heart man

also links to everything I mentioned in the OP and didn’t link to because TUMBLR

Cassian and Peeta

Katniss and Jyn

Jyn as a WOC

Cassian as the Final Hope (Fic – the second chapter)

Omg are you in your Cassian Mockingjay feels too? It was one of my first thoughts after watching RO, that Jynn was the wrong protagonist and the heroine should have been Cassiana (I love Diego Luna but imagine her as a South American indigenous woman??) setting the Rebellion alight with inspiration, with Jynn as a courier/quest object figure and eventual girlfriend.

cassandor:

okay I have so many emotions about THG and Rogue One specifically and in conjunction with each other so this is about to be a HUGE can of worms AND you touched on female!Cassian which is ANOTHER can of worms so now I’m just going to break down all these bits into sections and move on from there

but *cracks knuckles*

List of TLDRs (oh yeah this post IS LONG):

TLDR1: Katniss, as the Mockingjay, is hope personified.

TLDR2: Cassian is hope personified, and both he and Katniss are symbols of hope, and are the basis of rebellion (both literally as recruiters and figuratively as hope)

TLDR3: Jyn is most like Katniss

TLDR 4: Jyn being the lead for Rogue One makes the most sense

TLDR 5: heck yeah woc and especially heck yeah woc in star wars and also heck yeah Jyn is bi

Full text under the cut:

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themandalorianwolf:

lj-writes:

jewishcomeradebot:

themandalorianwolf:

“Finn is the military part of the trilogy, him having the force wouldn’t work.”

Characters who have had the force and were also apart of the military aspects:

Kanan Jarrus

Ezra Bridger

Ahsoka Tano

Luke Skywalker

Rey

General Leia Organa

EVERY SINGLE JEDI IN TCW THAT WENT BY GENERAL OR COMMANDER

The force and the military have never been separated. Even TLJ, can’t erase the fact that Rey specifically says she’s with the Resistance and was sent to Luke because of them.

Finn can have the force and be a commander in the Resistance. Y’all just looking for reasons to make him less important. It’s a you problem, not a Finn problem.

It’s kinda funny, because people have been trying to make a case for Han having the Force since 1977, no matter that his arc was about becoming a responsible leader and a general. Funny how having the Force was and is not see as ruining his character and that fans thought it’d work brilliantly for him, but somehow it’s a detriment to Finn?

[insert thinking emoji]

Also missing: any serious fandom speculation of Lando having the Force, despite his piloting and brilliant tactical judgment saving the day. Nah, Lando’s got to be the Everyman even though he clearly isn’t, I wonder why? 🤣

I’ve seen every excuse why Finn can’t be force sensitive.

“He lost to Nines and Kylo.”

Finn never used a lightsaber before and every SW protagonist has gotten their ass handed to them, including Rey the first time she met Kylo.

“He needs saving.”

He’s saved more people than anyone has saved him.

“He’s the Han Solo type”.

Han and Finn are fundamentally different, and even if he wasn’t, fans have been asking/claiming Han was force sensitive for decades.

“Finn’s the every man.”

Finn is an ex Stormtrooper who was stolen from his family, raised in a fascist organization and goes on an adventure with a homeless, an old pirate, and big foot. What the fuck kind of every man is that?

“Finn was a bait and switch to hide Rey being force sensitive and the real protagonist.”

Rey uses the force multiple different times that have no actual relation to Finn until she fights to save his life. Beyond that, Finn shows his own hints of being force sensitive, and he is the co-protagonist.

There is actually no reason for Finn not to be force sensitive beyond some people not lining the idea of it.

In addition to the above very valid points (bigfoot lmaoooo), Finn was in the 99% percentile in Stormtrooper training and considered officer material other than that pesky empathy of his. If he’s an Everyman then Bill Gates is a middle class dad.

I don’t get why people think Finn both being a military leader and having the Force is somehow strange for Star Wars. After all, we have a rather outsized example of this already.

It’s not just the combination of Force and military abilities either, but also the characters’ story positions. Finn being the “war” part of the triad gives him the position Leia should
have occupied in the OT, the character with ties to both the military
and the Force who embodies what the war is about: The human face of the
Empire’s atrocities, the survivor who chose to fight. Leia should have
been the central figure of the war and not Han’s plus-one on what
were essentially his plots and missions.

Done right Leia would have been
more like Katniss in The Hunger Games, damaged and traumatized from her
experiences, inspiring by her story and example. RO tried to shoehorn
Jynn into Katniss’s Mockingjay role except it never worked because Jynn
didn’t have the representative story. Obviously the Mockingjay figures
were Cassian and the Jedhans (Bodhi, Chirrut, Baze), but yet again SW
shied away from giving center stage to victims of wide-scale atrocities.
It shied away again with Finn in TLJ.

This refusal to have central Mockingjay figures, I believe, reflects SW’s basic ambivalence as a franchise that is more comfortable with destined saviors than with exploited and destroyed peoples saving themselves. Maybe that comes of SW being a USAmerican franchise dealing with fascism, the contradiction of a country that is fundamentally fascistic and imperialistic trying to tell itself a story of being antifascist and anti-imperialist. America can’t face the full implication of truly upending its fascist underpinnings, in fiction as in reality. Instead the brutal form of fascism is replaced by the “soft” fascism of worshipping benign supermen.

Then along comes JJ Abrams, someone in a position to know the contradictions and falsity in the story America tells about itself. He shows the New Republic’s compromise with fascism destroying it morally as well as physically, a year ahead of the 2016 election. He shows how the worship of the Skywalkers as the chosen line gave us Kylo Ren. He gives us Finn, one of the First Order’s victims, as a strong and central figure.

Finn in IX could be the character that Leia could have been–the one who ties it all together, the military plot and the Force plot, the story of war with the story of spirituality and morality. He could be the character that embodies both the evil of the First Order and the determination, on a personal, visceral level, to fight it. He could be the character that brings audiences face to face with what it means when people who are considered expendable in the quest for greatness stand up and fight back. He could solve the Star Wars dilemma and finally break the vicious cycle of destruction the galaxy far, far away has become trapped in. I certainly hope so.

(Spun off from a discussion with @fuckyeahrebelfinn [link])

I can really recommend watching Resistance. I fully caught up the other day and I can say that this far I actually like it more than I did with Rebels or TWC. I don’t if it’s going to deliver on all the narrative promises it’s made so far – no details because I don’t want to spoil things – but it is looking very promising so far.

jewishcomeradebot:

cassandor:

I only saw half of the first episode and I was really wary of how Poe might be portrayed but I’ll def look into it more now!

@cassandor If you’ve watched first half of the first episode then you’ve seen half of Poe’s appearance on this. After he leaves in episode one which iirc is about half way) he doesn’t show up until episode six and he’s pretty much in line with how he was in one. Definitely more TFA/comic!Poe than TLJ!Poe so far.

Resistance is not a show without problems, but then neither was TCW or Rebels and so far Resistance is still coming out ahead here. That’s just my opinion though.

I will say that in one way Resistance is very different from TWC and Rebels. Both of those were pretty straight forward war shows where the questions or mysteries raised in an episode or episode arc were also answered there. Yes there were exceptions but that was pretty much the over all trend.

Resistance on the other hand is a spy story. While a single episode will conclude its main story many episodes leaves the viewer with many unanswered questions to what is actually going on. I’ve seen several people complain about this and the “plot holes” it leaves, but I don’t think it’s plot holes at all. The show is building up its mystery plot, the underlying plot of what the hell the FO is up to in the Outer Rim – apart from taking over the galaxy of course – and on Colossus specifically. We’re not getting all our answers in every episode or even in 2-5 episode arc, because all episodes are part of a much bigger story that’ll take at least the full first season to tell. Which is 22 episodes long and we only have the first seven episodes so far.

It’s a very different way of building a story and it leads to a lot of “plot holes” along the way. Which aren’t really plot holes at all because questions will be answered, just not as quickly as we’re used to.

You know that fictionalized love story of Cyrano de Bergerac saying he wrote love letters to Roxane, the woman he was in love with, on the behalf of Christian whom Roxane was in love with and vice versa?

I think Eleanor was a little like that with Chidi and Simone. She didn’t exactly write poetic letters but she did lend her greater eloquence in matters of love to Chidi, just as an initial push, because she knew how she would court Simone. She wouldn’t get between Chidi and Simone when she knew they were attracted to each other, though. She loved both of them too much, these good and brilliant (and hot!!!) people who were doing so much to help her. And now Simone will never know 😭