I’m really uncomfortable with this idea that Rey being as strong in the Force as Killoren supports Reheelo rather than Rey Skywalker/Solo. I mean, does that strike anyone else as uncomfortably eugenic? Of course, the idea of a kind of divine lineage (which just happens to be white/white-passing) deciding the fate of the universe already lends itself to illiberal interpretations. See David Brin’s “Star Wars” despots vs. “Star Trek” populists on this point.

However, the idea that Rey is Force-destined to marry Kul-de-sac, a man she hates, so they can have a new generation of super-strong Skywalker babies takes this already problematic premise to new and disturbing lows. Rey’s own feelings of disgust and pain from her interactions with Kal are brushed aside or outright romanticized in this process, making the way this pairing is shipped frequently misogynistic as well. And let’s not even get into the blatant misapplication of the concept of a Force bond making them love each other against their will. The Force is not a date rape drug, damn it.

If Rey is a Skywalker or Solo, on the other hand, it makes sense within the existing canon that she would be as strong in the Force as her cousin or brother. It also preserves the recurring theme of choice, that one’s moral choices matter more than blood, making this canon palatable. As others have pointed out, Rey and Krill being the opposite ends of Anakin Skywalker’s legacy both underlines that theme and neatly ties off the three trilogies. To me they’re the only parentage theories that make thematic sense and make for a satisfying conclusion.

paige-tic0:

lesbianrey:

i think one of the many things that really bothers me about reylo is how like….they think women’s anger is like, not Valid™ like a lot of them are like “oh haha rey HATES kylo isn’t that funny tee hee. but it’s not actually real. what a little spitfire she is! but obviously after kylo is really sowwy it will be good after that.” and its just really fucked up lmao

Yupp. She means nothing to them.

Why the fuck people think Kylo is in love with Rey? Are they sure they watched The Force Awakens?

I blame the heteronormative idea that any significant interaction between a man and a woman, particularly young and conventionally attractive ones (thin, able-bodied, white etc.), must necessarily be romantic/sexual in nature. Meanwhile if one of the people involved falls outside of that constructed circle of desirability the relationship, no matter how epic and romantic, Just Doesn’t Feel Right and Is Brotp Forever and Unnecessary and Heteronormative because a Strong Woman Don’t Need No Man.

Reyyyyaighno also ties into a toxic idea that mistreatment, in this case by a man against a woman, is romantic. Seriously, not only does Kylo assault, abduct, and torture the woman he’s supposedly in love with, he tries to use her deepest, most painful vulnerabilities against her and shippers are calling it romantic. The whole thing is so uncomfortable because it reminds me of my own verbal and emotional abuse. What anyone ships is their own business but it’s shitty when they go out of their way to make harmful abuse apologist arguments. If it’s “just fiction,” why make arguments that harm actual abuse survivors?

Oh right, because to the worst shippers their ship has to be canon and the relationship between Rey and the man who actually cares about her, a guy who just happens to be Black, is somehow Lacking and Terrible and Cannot Be Endgame FOR SOME MYSTERIOUS REASON. Fuck that.

buttart:

toddypalmpie:

bogleech:

futuristicmgtow:

Modernity has shown us how women act when they get a license to behave any way they want. They cover their bodies in tattoos, they sleep with a 1000 chads, they date criminals and give birth to their children, they abort their babies, they drink alcohol like they are men, they wear skimpy clothing and they smoke like chimneys. Absolutely vile.

This person just crossed my dash and I’m not usually into reblogging people just to say “get a load of this piece of work” these days but this post is apparently dead serious and their posts only get worse from there.

Jesus.

1000 CHADS

How do u say they birth criminals children but also abort them like there’s some confusion here bro

So I can’t stop laughing because I just saw a different post whose punchline is “Don’t be a transphobe, Chad” and now I imagine these Chads have dropped their cissexist beliefs and the ladies, trans and cis, love them. I support the thousand Chads’ personal growth and the women who fuck them.

maurice-dandi:

culturevulture73:

otterandterrier:

kalinara:

quidditchchick:

obi-wan-ken00b:

neverthebubblegumbitch:

obi-wan-ken00b:

quidditchchick:

I’m so glad Poe is Leia’s new son

ahahahaha oh these people I swear. I SWEAR.

I love how these people so desperately want leia to be a terrible mother xD

almost as if they hated her.

Y’all do realize Leia has no obligation to “be a good mother” to Kylo anymore after he murdered children, kidnapped other children and brainwashed them to kill for him, blew up an entire planet (which is what happened to Alderaan, Leia’s home), and murdered his father, the love of Leia’s life, right??

Like if Leia wants to forgive him and get him to turn back into the light, then that’s fine, it’s her choice.

But calling her a “terrible mother” for saying Poe is like a surrogate son to her and possibly not wanting to call Kylo a son anymore after what he has done is ridiculous.

Kylo is a grown man who directly engaged in the massacre of a village, murdered two unarmed old men (one of whom was his father), aided in the genocide of five planets, stood by with the knowledge that the planet destroying weapon was aimed directly at his mother’s base, and defended said base from the people trying to stop further genocide.  ALL ONSCREEN.

Leia owes him nothing.  And if Leia does choose not to recognize her son after these acts, that doesn’t make her a terrible mother.

It makes her a human being.  And as a Leia fan, I value her as more than just Kylo Ren’s all-forgiving mommy.

maybe… just maybe… the responsibility shouldn’t be ON LEIA at this point… maybe… it’s not that she’s a bad mother… but that Crylow is a terrible son… given that he’s a fucking grown up who CHOSE to cut ties… maybe don’t accuse “these people” of hating Leia when you’re treating her as a fucking tool, a doormat that has to once again find it in herself to be strong and forgiving after being cruelly stepped on BY HER FUCKING GROWN ASS SON.

also, a person can care about multiple people, and multiple children, even if they’re not their children by birth, FLASHNEWS. And Poe’s mother died when he was still a child, so no, saying that Leia is a mother figure to him isn’t meant to erase Shara Bey or to say she “forgot” to care for Ben because she was too busy with Poe (???)

but maybe that’s too simple and straightforward for the reylos’ “superior” subtext analyzing skills *snort*

I felt the need to reblog this again because…

How in the hell is Leia a “terrible mother” if she doesn’t want Kylo Ren back and instead wants a son like Poe? 

Huh?

Please come on over and answer me that one. How is she a “terrible mother’ if she doesn’t want him back? Really, how? I mean, I thought collective you had already decided she was a terrible mother for sending him to train with Luke or not hanging on his every word and deed or some such that “caused” Kylo to go off and be a murdering fascist. 

But please explain. 

Because how is she a “terrible mother” if she doesn’t want back a fascist, genocidal manchild who murdered his uncle’s students and murdered an old family friend and tortured people back? I mean…all he did for an encore was murder his father? Y’know, the man she loved, who loved her? And let’s not forget, aimed a damn super weapon at her.

Why wouldn’t she want him back?

No, the question, is WHY WOULD SHE?

I’ve seen this garbage way too much. How it’s going to be “good” for Leia and Luke, after all they’ve suffered, to have Kylo back/

So, what, they can see every day the man who destroyed their lives and murdered Han? 

How does that make them feel any better?

Not that one damn thing that happens to Luke, Leia and Han makes anything “right” in this whole movie, but seriously, you tell me how welcoming back Murder Boy makes Leia’s life good in any way.

Lines are open and operators are standing by.

Yes, I also wanted to point out, that it seems no matter what Leia does, in the eyes of reylos, she always be a bad mother. No matter what she does, she can’t win. Either she’s seen as a neglectful mother, who causes Kylo to fall, or when it turns out that canonically Leia, Han, and Luke! were loving, caring parents to this bastard, then the narrative shifts, and she is blamed to be a bad mother just because of acts like a great! mother figure to other young people. 

Leia Organa, adopted daughter to Bail, who was tortured by her biological father, who was almost killed by Kylo, who lost her husband by Kylo’s hand, who’s brother is being hunted down to be killed by Kylo is seen as a bad mother because she knows it’s not genetics that makes you a family. Classy…