I’ve started to think the real conflict in the sequel trilogy might actually not be between the Light and Dark Sides of the Force. The former can be immoral and the latter can be moral, after all.
Pacifism in the face of injustice can be irresponsible cowardice, which is why people have criticized the “That’s how we win” line. Rationality in the face of others’ pain can be dismissive and callous, as we saw with Yoda toward Anakin.
On the other hand, violence to fight unjust violence is moral. That’s the entire foundation of the Rebellion and later Resistance. Anger and pain in the face of oppression, suffering with those who suffer, can be compassion.
No, I now think the real conflict in the sequel trilogy is between elitism and egalitarianism. Think about it. JJ has said that it’s very deliberate that Finn and Rey don’t have last names. We thought it was because they would get big reveals later on (or at least fandom, including me, thought that was true of Rey), but what if he meant something else entirely?
The third main hero in the new movies is Poe, who has a last name and known family but who was at best solidly midle class his whole life. In TLJ we got Rose, whose homeworld was destroyed by the First Order.
These heroes are arrayed against Kylo Ren, a son and nephew of famous heroes and a genetically powerful Force user, who had every advantage growing up and every reason to be the greatest force for good the galaxy had seen.
In a way, being told he is the ultimate good may be the very reason he went so very wrong. Kylo’s actor Adam Driver has said that Kylo has absolute conviction that he is right and that he is an elitist. What would that do to a person’s morality if he is told, implicitly or explicitly, that he can do no wrong by virtue of being a good guy and that he is a cut above everyone else?
Maybe this is why many people are still flummoxed by Kylo Ren’s character and insist that his motivations are lacking, that he is incomprehensible. Our template of the main antagonist in Star Wars is Darth Vader, who was indeed a Dark Side villain whose passion and fear ran amok, motivating him to murder and destruction. That’s why fans read abuse, brainwashing, or the loss of a loved one into Kylo Ren’s character, so we can fit him in the mold of the Dark Side.
But what if there is no Dark Side to be read into his character? What if there was no anger, fear, or loss that motivated him, at least not from legitimate loss or pain?
What if Kylo Ren’s brand of evil is far more mundane: Self-righteousness and arrogance?
In this frame, we can see why Rey misjudged him in The Last Jedi. Like the fandom, she thought Kylo Ren was driven by suffering and could be reached by a hand of friendship and understanding, like Luke had reached Vader. She learned to her surprise that Kylo didn’t hate the father he murdered, which should have made her rethink her approach. Luke himself who knew both Kylo and Vader warned her that she was dangerously misreading the situation.
And when Rey forgave Kylo Ren the pain he caused her, believed in him, stood by his side, and fought by his side–it had no effect on him at all. He had plenty of people believe in him, love him, and even forgive him after he did the unforgivable. That wasn’t what was wrong with him. It wasn’t the Dark Side that made him evil.
Rather he believed he was he ultimate good, that destroying the galaxy and remaking it in his image was the right thing to do. He thought Rey was nothing and had no place in the story because of her unremarkable birth, and only through him could she find meaning and worth.
The real evil in the sequel trilogy isn’t lashing out in hatred and suffering. It’s the belief that you are better than everyone else and are entitled to use others as a means to your ends. Such a belief may lead to suffering, such as rage at the fact that people aren’t treating you with the deference you believe you are due, but in that case you are not evil because you suffer; rather, your suffering stems from your evil belief.
This is the kind of evil the heroes of the sequel trilogy are standing against, and that their backgrounds and choices refute. Finn was kidnapped and enslaved to be a means for the glory of his leaders like Kylo, but he refused the role. He asserted his own individuality and self-worth and wanted to run far away from the First Order before he decided to fight with the Resistance.
Rey grew up in deprivation but never gave up hope, always longing for people who would love her and with whom she had a place. She projected her own pain onto Kylo, and that very nearly became her downfall.
Poe, like Kylo, was raised as one of the “good guys.” Unlike Kylo, however, he always remained open to questioning himself and whether he was doing the right thing. When he saw evidence of First Order activity as a Republic pilot, he didn’t dismiss it because he thought the Republic was always right. Instead he changed his entire life, leaving behind stability and certainty, to do the right thing. When a Stormtrooper offered to rescue him, Poe believed him and became his friend. In TLJ, though the execution was somewhat muddled, he again showed the humility to question his assumptions and admit when others were right.
Rose, like Finn, was one of the people Kylo deemed inferior and expendable. Like Finn she rejected that to fight back, and like Rey she knows she is more than her birth. Like Poe she showed a willingness to admit when she was wrong and to change her views.
These are the democratic and egalitarian heroes who will fight Kylo Ren despite the odds, who respond to his terrifyingly egocentric worldview with a resounding “no.” No, we are not fodder for your ambitions. No, we do not accept that we are less. No, the greater good is not in some Übermensch because good and evil lie in choices, not individuals or sides. No, we will not bow to you. No, we will not let you continue on this path of destruction. No. No. NO.
Kylo Ren is not evil because he is on the Dark Side of the Force, but because he believes himself to be the absolute good and the ultimate worth due to who he is. It is why he is a villain for our times and why he must be defeated by our heroes.
I’m having a hard time checking out this claim because there are so many different outlets and categories that I hardly know where to start. But if true, it’s disturbing.
I think it’s incredibly difficult to give a definitive answer to that claim. I’m not saying it isn’t true, it very well could be but to actually discuss this matter, we’d somehow have to get our hands on a list of merchandise items divided by characters or make one ourselves, truly digging it up by hand. I’d be very interested in the result and maybe also would like to see which type of merch features Finn and which type rather features Poe. Or truly check this for all characters.Sadly I fear this would take ages and I don’t think anyone has the time to do this. (or maybe we all don’t even have the resources)
When I reviewed the merchandise that Disney sells online and at there parks Poe technically has more merchandise than Finn. I say technically because the merchandise isn’t Poe himself but his ship and outfit that’s really just a regular resistance pilot suit with his name thrown on it. Even with these added items it’s not that much more versus say captain phasma. Who gets way more merchandise but that’s mainly because people like her design.
Poe no matter how much some people want or may worry isn’t going to outshine Finn in the merchandise or the film department. Also just checked out Walmart’s website and Finn merchandise outweighs Poe. An agian just like on the Disney’s sight a lot of Poe merchandise is ships and resistance gear. While I may not like how Disney treats Finn he’s doing very good outside the parks which is better when you really think about it.
Based off of @lj-writes meta “The Force Sensitive Five”, which you can click the link for the amazing meta goodness, the Force Five is a theory that Finn, Poe, Rose, and Caro, providing she turns out to be force sensitive, will go on to become pupils of Rey. Though more in a student teacher kind of way due to Rey being a learner herself. So it’s kind of like Kotor 2 when Exile trained all of their force sensitive companions as Jedi.
Instead of just reiterating what the above meta talks about, I’ll be listing what role I believe the five will serve in the new Jedi Order.
Some of these listingings are from the Legends canon, but considering force projection was brought back into canon, these count as fair game till proven otherwise.
There are 3 branches of Jedi in the Jedi teachings.
Jedi Guardian:
Knights preferring to take a physically active stance against the dark side of the Force and all other threats to the Republic were known to pursue the title of Guardian. Brandishing their lightsabers proudly, Guardians focused much of their training on perfecting their sparring and athletic skills, as well as the art of unarmed combat. The Force skills studied by the Guardians were typically those used for quickly disabling an opponent and aiding in agility and stamina.
Jedi Counselor:
Focusing not on physical force but on mastery of the Force and the sharpening of mental skills, the Jedi Knights who became Consulars worked closely with the Republic Diplomatic Corps and medical facilities. Overseen by the Council of Reconciliation, Consulars worked as healers, prophets, and researchers, wielding a lightsaber only for self defense.
Jedi Sentinal:
Knights that sought a balance between the intensive combat training of the Jedi Guardians and the wider philosophical views and teaching responsibilities of the Jedi Consulars. These Jedi ferreted out deceit and injustice, bringing it to light. They were generally employed in scouting missions and were skilled in security, computers, or stealth techniques, and also had diplomatic skills.
Rey
Branch: Jedi Guardian
Specialized path: Jedi Peacekeeper
The Jedi Peacekeepers were specialists in the art of policing the galaxy and ensuring that laws are enforced along the Outer Rim. Those Jedi wishing to pursue a peacekeeping role were stationed within planetary or sectoral government’s security agencies where they worked as the area’s special police.
Lightsaber: Double bladded Purple Lightsaber
Finn
Branch: Jedi Sentinal
Specialized path: Jedi Investigator
Jedi specially appointed by the High Council to uncover hidden and obscure threats to the galaxy such as powerful criminal syndicates, corruption and conspiracy against the Republic and other shady menaces. The Jedi investigator would often work alone and undercover to infiltrate suspicious organizations or would be busy investigating some act of crime.
Lightsaber: Dual wielding Orange Lightsabers
Poe Dameron
Branch: Jedi Guardian
Specialized path: Jedi Ace
The Jedi Aces were highly adept pilots and dogfighters. Piloting a variety of different starfighter models over the Order’s history, those specializing as Aces used their battle awareness to increase their firing accuracy and precision far beyond what a non-Force-sensitive pilot could achieve.
Lightsaber: Guard shoto Yellow Lightsaber
Rose Tico
Branch: Jedi Sentinal
Specialized Path: Jedi Artisan
Trying to understand creativity as a central aspect of the will of the Force, the craft pursued by Jedi artisans typically manifested in the construction of lightsabers and holocrons. Having an intrinsic skill with tools and machines, artisans joined their connection to the Force with their mechanical skill to guide their use of tools to create truly artistic and unique objects.
Lightsaber: Single Hilt Teal Lightsaber
Caro
Branch: Jedi Counselor
Specialized Path: Jedi Seer
Highly attuned to the Unifying Force, the Seers of the Jedi Order were gifted with pre- and postcognition, the Force granting them glimpses of things to come and things which have already transpired. Jedi Prophets were a rarity amongst the Seers, and were able to divine such things as the future of the galaxy.
Lightsaber: Curved-hilt Green lightsaber
I’d figure these five could be the building blocks of the New Jedi Order, though I think some elder Force users like Ahsoka, Ezra, and Maz would join due to have more extensive knowledge of the force and its history.