Tag: poe dameron

aimmyarrowshigh:

deputychairman:

Why are you booing him? He’s right

#this was a STUPID PLAN
#based on the First Order not having any WINDOWS (via @deputychairman)

And based on being unwilling to admit she HAD no plan, and WAS in fact just trying to bail everyone out and see how many, if any, survived. She didn’t ram the Supremacy until almost every escape pod had been destroyed. HOLDO caused the deaths of far, far more Resistance personnel and soldiers than Poe ever did. HOLDO let her vanity and vainglory get in the way of effective leadership – if the people ON THE BRIDGE, FUELING YOUR TRANSPORTS, are helping to organize a mutiny against you because your plan is bad and going to get them killed, that’s a bad plan.

Holdo’s entire action was based on wanting Leia to be proud of her, and not Poe, honestly. And granted: that’s a perspective we know that Poe can have, too, but what Poe wants more than anything else is to make sure the Resistance survives and the First Order is brought down without a chance of restarting the way the Empire did. Holdo mainly seems to want to be in charge and restart the New Republic that failed to stop the Empire’s roots to grow into the First Order in the first place, and she was unwilling to ACT against the First Order until what, twelve Rebels were left?

She could have saved all of those unarmed, unshielded escape pods if she’d rammed the Supremacy as soon as the last pod detached from the cruiser. But she didn’t, because she never planned to take any actual actions to stop the First Order. Holdo’s idea of resistance was so passive, so laissez-faire, that she might as well have been a First Order mole for all the good she did.

The difference between “the fire that will restore the Republic” and “the fire that will burn the First Order down” is immeasurable.

Holdo – quintessentially in a White Feminist move – wanted to “rebel” only as far as it restored her own place of power in the Galaxy as a Senator in the broken New Republic that ignored the growing threat of fascism until the NR itself was destroyed. (This New Republic she wants to restore being the same one that allowed slavery to flourish “in secret” across the Galaxy, allowed for poverty like that on Jakku, allowed for the immoral disparity of wealth and power on Cantonica).

In Bloodline, Holdo doesn’t stand up for Leia when Leia presents evidence that the First Order is a real threat. Why would Holdo have a ranking position in the Resistance when she didn’t think there was a need for it?? (BAD WRITING, THAT’S WHY. GODDAMMIT, STORYGROUP, WAS THIS NOT YOUR ENTIRE PURPOSE AS A THING? TO MAKE A STORY OF THIS SCOPE ACTUALLY MAKE NARRATIVE SENSE???)

In LPoA, Holdo’s “rebellion” doesn’t actually exist – she cares about people, specifically her own friends and the people for whom she is the Junior Senator, on Gatalenta. Holdo doesn’t really care about the good of the Galaxy. She cares about herself.

Poe doesn’t care about restoring the New Republic. The New Republic is who looked him in the face and said that deaths caused by the First Order didn’t matter – or didn’t exist. They were corrupt and complacent, and they refused to acknowledge that the ideals of the Empire had not actually died down. Their treatment of poor, disenfranchised Systems – those whom the Empire had most exploited, in some cases – caused those same Imperial ideals to take root again and blossom as an open secret. They allowed for the Centrists’ (literal) xenophobia to be communicated like a legitimate viewpoint, keeping some Imperial POVs mainstream when they could have been condemned. The New Republic did not deserve to be destroyed with Starkiller Base, but it also didn’t do enough good to warrant being restored as it was.

Poe cares about ending the First Order.

Holdo doesn’t.

If Holdo doesn’t care about preventing the tyranny of the First Order, then what exactly is she resisting…?

Kylo stans frequently like to say Han and Leia are terrible parents and I don’t agree with them. But I’m latina and always hated that people erased Poe’s family (calling Holdo “Poe’s mama” is creepy too and some white sw fans say “mama” with sexual connotation). Leia can be Poe’s mentor without being his “mother” and Holdo… She is basically white feminism

hanukkahfinn:

Nonny, sorry for not answering you yesterday, I didn’t really feel up to interacting much with anyone.

Honestly, I don’t subscribe to the Han and Leia were awful parents theory either, (when I wrote my answer to the other ask I was really just pissy at the people who erase Shara and Kes, usually supplanting them with Leia and Han). They might not have been quite ready to be parents when they got Ben, but I think they did the best job they knew how to do.

I have thankfully never seen Holdo called Poe’s mama, but then I tend to block Holdo fans on sight after seeing too much bs right after TLJ came out. Holdo is a case of a white man aiming for white feminism, but then forgetting the feminism part – Holdo only exist in the movie for Poe’s character progression, complete mangled as it is and not for her own reason – so honestly, I just find her white. As in, both she and Leia are used to assert white dominance, wisdom and leadership capabilities, over characters of color, but then gets short changed because Rian isn’t just racist as hell, he’s also a raging misogynist.

Leia can definitely be Poe’s mentor without constantly referring to her as his mom. Even if Oscar says he sees her as a maternal figure.

You know, there could have been a very interesting story in the fact that Poe lost his mother, whom he idolizes, as a child and how he might be project that idolization and all his mother’s good qualities onto Leia, though Leia is a completely different person. Having Poe deal with the fact that Leia is only human and a different person than his mom was, could have made for an interesting story (and brought Shara into movie canon, even if only by being referred to).

But hey, that would have meant Rian actually caring about the characters, their backgrounds and motivations, and not shoehorning them into his own racist and misogynistic stereotypes.

dasakuryo:

Bb!Poe helped Shara make churros on rainy days, and they would laugh and sing as they got the batter ready, and Poe would insist that it wasn’t too hot and he could knead it but would blow on his hands when he thought mamá wasn’t looking (of course she was). So Shara would help him and Kes would smile at them from the kitchen doorframe, then the oil sizzling would accompany the drumming of the downpour outside. Then they would set the whole system, Shara pushing the batter out of the churrera, Kes cooking the churros in the oil until they got golden, and then Poe would roll them on sugar to coat them really well.

And then Shara was gone, but they kept the tradition. It was one of the many ways they had to remember her.

attackfish:

While Poe has had fairly few sexual partners, he has in fact literally slept with the entire Resistance.  Space is tight, hours are weird, and people frequently fall into whatever bed is closest.  He can confirm that Pava snores, the general kicks, and one of the medics is the most obnoxious sleep cuddler in the galaxy.

aspiringwarriorlibrarian:

eyeloch:

pep-no:

taahko:

@ rian johnson

Doing so in a military organization will result in official reprimand, though. Or worse.

Going against those with power is always dangerous.  It is, however, often the right thing to do. Even when the consequences aren’t exactly as expected, what Ahsoka says here still applies. 100%.

What if Finn had the same “hope” Poe is expected to have in Holdo in Phasma and the First Order? As established in Phasma, many of the First Order stormtroopers have the same hope that the Order’s rule will bring peace and justice to the galaxy. It’s a dangerous double standard, to ask stormtroopers to question their leaders and do what feels right and then turn right around and expect rebels to blindly obey even when they think their leaders are immoral and possibly treacherous.