Stop doing my son Darcy dirty and comparing him to Kyle O’Reckt. Kyll is obviously Wickam, the duplicitous, manipulative predator who targeted vulnerable teenagers for his own gain, taking “whatever he wanted” from them. Cease this dishonor on the good name of Fitzwilliam “Disaster Man” Darcy 2kforever
Akajsdlksadjkadsa. Reylos really do not pay attention to anyone who isn’t Kylo do they? Like Rey’s age is basic canon knowledge. It’s in the TFA novel too, I’ll try to remember to take a picture of the page when I get home but here’s a screen cap from the Star Wars Character Encyclopedia: Updated and Expanded an official Star Wars book published under Disney and therefore canon. (Highlighting mine.)
Oh whoops. She’s officially nineteen and hence a teenager.
Rey’s age was so firmly fixed in my mind, I thought at first the comment was going to argue Georgiana and Lydia weren’t teenagers.
It’s SO FUNNY (ie ironic, ie racist) that Finn is painted as being the one and only character with infatuation issues when it’s like… exactly the opposite lmao, every character who has spent extended periods of time with Finn is helplessly enamored with him, sometimes to a fault
Rose? Toxically obsessed with him, abused him when he didn’t fit her idealized version of him she had in her head. Literally infatuated.
Rey? Begged him not to leave Takodana and then had a Force vision when she felt like he abandoned her. Wanted to LAY DOWN in the snow and DIE next to Finn at Starkiller. Infatuation? Probably not but that’s some pretty extreme attachment.
And yet these assbags are like “Finn is obsessed with Rey!!!!! HashTagReyloForever!!!!!!!!” and like uhhhh no lol Finn is one of the only characters in the main cast to show healthy levels of attachment, even though his dysfunctional unbringing could easily have ruined him for relationships
When he asked Rey to go to the Outer Rim with him, she said no and he didn’t ask again and he accepted her decision and told her to take care. When faced with either blowing up Starkiller Base OR immediately rushing to save Rey, Finn chose to help Han and Chewie shut down the shields first. When faced with the option to hold on to Rey’s tracker and run with it once he got to Canto Bight, Finn chose to give the tracker to Poe and go on the mission, risking Rey’s safety and his own. Finn loves Rey but he’s not infatuated, he respects her decisions and he knows the universe doesn’t revolve around her.
Anyways, tldr, if we’re talking about infatuation amongst the main characters of the ST, Finn is like the last one yall should be concerned about, thanks
I’m guessing you mean ALL or ANY of the female characters could be replaced by a sexy lamp without the plot falling apart. That said, much as I dislike TLJ, I disagree. The female characters in TLJ were by and large not inert plot devices, I can say that much, though enragingly enough it’s Leia who comes closest to that description due to spending much of the movie in a coma.
My issue with the way these characters were written is that they were not given their own stories but rather made to serve the stories of male characters with a fake sheen of empowerment. Rose was there to “set Finn straight” or whatever (there are so many levels of racism and sexism in this thinking it’s dizzying), Rey to try and bring Kylo back to the light and ultimately show how far he has fallen, and Holdo and Leia to guide Poe to be a leader. The flaws and traumas of these women are made subservient to the needs of male growth and change, and in the case of Rose and Holdo especially, instead of having their own messy humanity they are Right for the Edification of Stupid Men.
I’ve heard it said that feminism is the radical notion that women are human beings. If women are not allowed their own flaws and biases but can only be omniscient and hyper-capable devices to help and teach men, then they’re not being treated as human beings. Among its many other flaws TLJ is a fake feminist story, and predictably White Feminists™ in particular are eating it up.
I find it pretty telling that some white dudes described Rey as more ‘likable’ in this film – presumably because she was treated in a more ‘conventional’ way to them…
Yeah like… none of that inconvenient anger for being tortured and having her friends killed and hurt… so convenient. I mean, likable.
FN-2187 was trained since birth to serve the First Order as a stormtrooper, but a skirmish on Jakku awakened his conscience and drove him down a different path, one that proved both heroic and dangerous. He helped Poe Dameron escape the First Order – picking up the nickname Finn in doing so – and then sought his own freedom alongside Rey and BB-8.
They are right and they should always say it
Poe and Rey are co-presidents of the Love Finn and Hate Kylo Club.
rey: *confirms kylo tortured her, something that was clear and explicit in the movie*
reylos:
Because for some fucking reason it wasn’t explicitly known even though the novel, script, actors, writers, and director confirmed the torture was…torture.
Seriously? They’re throwing an actual tantrum over this? I mean, JJ called it torture more than once in the very Blu-Ray commentary they hold to be their ship bible. How could this have been unclear or controversial in any way?
This scene…THIS SCENE… was definitely one of my favorites! The look of relief on her face when she saw Finn running to her. 😍😍 After all the dark and gloomy stuff she had to deal with through most of the movie, she finally found something good. Something peaceful and safe. 😇 Also, while Finn was running towards her, she was frigging walking in slow motion towards him!! It’s like she couldn’t quite believe that he was actually there or she was taking in the moment of finally seeing and knowing he was safe. BROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
It’s so funny that people who talk about Finn “fixating” or “obsessing” unhealthily over Rey fail to recognize that Rey fixated to a far greater extent on Finn. Remember Takodana? Finn was the one who accepted Rey’s decision not to come with him and walked away from her like a normal, healthy person does because he is not an abusive shithole who tells her she’s nothing trying to manipulate her into compliance. Rey was the one who didn’t want to part with a guy she had just met but she also did not assault or belittle him to make him stay because she is not, despite her trauma and abandonment issues, an entitled and unbalanced woman who thinks it’s okay to impose her will on others. Yeah, Finn went back for her when it was clear she was abducted and in imminent danger, like a good and brave person does for someone they love. How is that unhealthy or weird again?
But Rey? Did you forget the part where she searched the woods on Starkiller Base to find a wounded Finn, except it wasn’t to rescue him or anything–the planet was disintegrating around her and she wasn’t looking for the Falcon, trying to carry Finn to safety, or even drawing attention so a passing Resistance vessel might see them. At the end of her mental and physical resources, having retraumatized herself in the fight by confronting her greatest fear, she gave up hope and simply lay down on her beloved friend (whom she had known for a day), crying. For all intents and purposes she had found him to die with him.
To be clear her reaction is fully understandable and sympathetic, like mentally ill lovestruck teenager helloooo, but if you want to talk about an unusually intense fixation on a new friend that’s clearly Rey toward Finn way more than the other way around. My weirdo space nerd girl out-weirds out-dramas her gorgeous space hero any day of the week and I love her for it, okay?
Listen I get what you’re saying, but also consider: she wasn’t just willing to die with Finn, she searched through the woods to find him (leaving Kyle to get blown up alone ha ha), flip him onto his back, check his heartbeat–faint, so faint, but there–and then collapsed onto his chest sobbing. What kind of magnificently overdramatic Ophelia shit… ok actually more Hamlet shit, but you get my drift.
Consider further: She didn’t even try to find the Falcon on her own and get help for Finn. She had a handy-dandy light-generating doohickey right on her in the middle of a very dark wood, yet did not try to wave it for passing ships to see. If the wood cover was a problem she could have climbed a tree and we know she can climb. And while I’m sure carrying Finn was a daunting proposition especially in her state of complete exhaustion, literally her first appearance had her dragging very heavy scrap parts on a starvation diet. Finding the Falcon or flagging down a passing ship would have been better options in terms of time and effort, but carrying Finn wasn’t impossible if she couldn’t bear to let him out of her sight (or arms).
The scavenger Rey, the survivor, would have thought of all these options and ten times more in less time than it took you to say “character arc!” Who knows, maybe she was running through them in the back of her mind. But she was tired, so tired, and what’s more, Rey the survivor was surviving for a reason: to wait for the people who would come back for her. And now someone had, and she was with him at last, and not only was she too tired to try anymore–she saw no reason to. She had what she wanted, right there, even if he might not be able to smile or laugh or cry with her, or hug her. There’s no more thought of going back to Jakku, of trying and striving and hurting. Here in enemy territory on the verge of annihilation she is safer than at any time in memory, and she just wants to stay right here in this moment that is about to melt into forever.
It’s a beautiful and bittersweet culmination of her story, and it is very much her death–one of those situations where the character has chosen death and is for intents and purposes dead but plucked out by divine machination, as you said, for the need of the next film/episode/book. She, like Finn, has found something bigger than survival, because what they really wanted to live for was love. Now that they had found it they found it was worth dying for. They found it in each other.
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