Tag: rey

diversehighfantasy:

i-just-like-commenting:

diversehighfantasy:

@chromiah

This is the kind of hostility I’m talking about.

You asked for examples, I gave examples, but they’re not good enough because they were telling the truth that Kylo is more important and the examples aren’t fans specifically saying “I want to see Finn sidelined because he’s black and I hate black people. White power!” That’s not how the vast majority of fandom racism works. It’s about implicit prioritization of whiteness, which is exactly what has been happening in the Star Wars fandom since January ‘16.

Wanting Finn to be treated like the main character he is is not using him as a weapon. Neither is noticing that, like Black characters in virtually every fandom, Finn is treated like he doesn’t matter, is boring, and is unnecessary. That’s not a weapon.

Reylo shippers saying Finn should have his “own movie” when he’s already the male protagonist in the ST (yes, including TLJ) is not supporting Finn, it’s supporting the idea that Finn doesn’t matter to the ST and would be a better character if he was cut out of it to focus on a character who just happens to be a white guy (what.are.the.odds). It’s not pro Finn. It’s same shit, different day.

To the person you’re replying to, literally the entire structure of The Last Jedi is based on the idea that Rey, Finn, and Poe are the new trio and the main characters. They are split up, each getting their own storyline, then brought back together for the big finale, with a camera panning over them saying they have everything they need…

Like, jeepers, Kylo exists to be the central conflict of Rey’s storyline just as Holdo is for Poe’s, and the unjust economic systems + Phasma is for Finn’s. And yeah, he got more screentime this time around because Rey’s story wound up becoming Luke’s story as well, and Kylo got to play double-villain as well. But stop looking at the awful posters and marketing and actually pay attention to how the film was built. Rey, Finn, and Poe are the main characters. Kylo is the villain who serves as the primary antagonist and foil to the main characters. That makes him important, yes, but he’s not a part of the new trio. Which is, again, Rey, Finn, and Poe.

Luke’s big speech spells it out, too. “This is not the end of the Resistance” (shot of Poe), “The war isn’t over” (shot of Finn), and “I am not the last jedi” (shot of Rey).

Oh, so Finn, Poe, and Rey were expressly made the heroic trio unlike what dipshits were saying about Finn, Rey, and “Ben” being a trio? 😂

leiasbluelightsaber:

resistancepilotfinn:

crazy how it’s suddenly time for the skywalkers to die out when the prime next gen candidates are a woman and a black man like really interesting how that worked out for you rian

interesting how it’s suddenly time for “more than just another villain” and making him “relatable” now that the main new heroes are a woman and a black man

interesiting how now we concern ourselves with showing that “anyone can have the Force” rather than explore the possibility of a female heir to the Skywalker legacy (and let’s face it – if Rey Skywalker were to have any children, it would be with Finn – meaning non-white Skywalkers in future films)

interesting how now that a woman and a black man are supposed to be the leads of the new trilogy, suddenly they have to *earn* their place in the story, while that same story bends backwards to revolve around the white male villain

interesting…

Also interesting how the moment the heroes are a woman and a Black man, a sizable contingent of the fandom are screaming that the real hero is the white Skywalker because it’s the Skywalker saga (even though TLJ was supposedly the nail in that coffin) and the heroine has to bear his children to continue the line after the physical, mental, and emotional abuse she suffered from him, despite her canon bond with the hero.

jedifinn:

listen: luke should have been the one who wants to save kylo ren. there’s no stupid backtory about him wanting to kill his nephew; ben’s solo journey to the dark side is his own. when rey arrives on the island, luke tells her how he failed to save kylo before but how he also still believes there’s good in him. rey is the one to tell him that no, it’s not possible, she saw him kill his own father!

rey’s arrival also awakens something in luke. whether they’re related or not, he cares for her and quickly becomes her guardian, her mentor. training her, he’s reminded of the old times, when he used to scold ben for not focusing during meditation.

and so luke decides that he can be saved. he sneaks off one afternoon, with rey meditating in the temple, flying off into the sunset in his old, trusty x-wing. chewbacca is the one to disturb rey’s meditation session, all distressed roars and arms flailing. rey wants to go immediately after luke but she’s stopped by a strange apparition, a young man engulfed in blue light. “luke has a good heart but he trusts too much. he saved me but i’m afraid my grandson is too far gone. don’t let him destroy luke.”

she takes the falcon and goes after luke. and then it’s simple: they fight alongide each other in snoke’s throne room, a battle of masters and their apprentices. light and dark. and between them?

balance.

Interestingly, all of the casual fans I’ve spoken to after the movie believed that Kylo was lying to Rey about her parents (whether knowingly or unknowingly). Also, and this is my own speculation, if Rian had input into Rey’s vision in TFA, why not have Kylo say “They sold you for a ship to get off Jakku”, which is what we actually saw, not “They sold you for drinking money.” Either the story group collectively made a huge mistake, or something’s not adding up.

thelastjedicritical:

lj-writes:

thelastjedicritical:

kingofjakku:

thelastjedicritical:

swshadowcouncil:

TBH, the fan analysis surrounding The Last Jedi has been painfully shallow. People only seem to think everything made complete sense and there’s nothing wrong or LucasFilm screwed up everything.
We’re pretty much the only one’s taking the view the movie makes no sense as presented based on what we know and that it’s completely intentional.
Ironically, the GA actually gets it.

Look, maybe this has a lot to do with people being overall so disappointed that even though they notice these things, they aren’t ready to believe it means anything? And most people disliked the movie to the point that they don’t want to watch it again to make any kind of analysis… like me for instance…

I know the feeling. My mother and her husband went back to believing that Rey is Kylo’s younger sister. They simply refuse to believe that the revelation is the truth. I’m 50/50 about all of this because it really killed my desire to speculate about her lineage. I just want Rey to accept that she’s the hero the galaxy needs.

This is what this has always been about to me… self acceptance and growth… 

In terms of whether the reveal is being swallowed by the GA: I’ve said shortly after the release that people I know walked out of the cinema saying that Rey is Kylo’s sister. So in the end if the origin story is true, it’s so lame the GA doesn’t believe it…

One of the things that surprised me about the fan theorizing after TLJ is that Rey Solo is actually having a resurgence. I’m fine with Rey Random personally, just dislike the unnecessary mystery that preceded it, but clearly some of the audience interpreted the Rey-Kylo dynamic as that of siblings such as the hand-touching through the Force Bond as a parallel to Luke and Leia.

And it’s not like when fans were saying Vader was lying in TESB, either, since there are actually concrete things that don’t match up. With even Rian Effing Johnson saying this isn’t the final word on the parentage issue and the revelation was just what made sense at the time as part of Kylo trying to make her insecure, it looks like we’re stuck in uncertainty for yet another two years.

Oh we are indeed. It just isn’t satisfying bc of all the things that don’t match. I have no issue with Rey not being related to known characters but I have a problem with there being nothing to her abandonment or parentage that they couldn’t simply have told us in TFA…

And I rest my case, no matter what happens, IF Rey Solo were true, TLJ would’ve made a lot more sense than it did… so I get why people suddenly came to this conclusion…

However… to pick up on one of your tags… I want this door in fact to be smashed shut… bc to me it stops the entire story, her character development… it’s so tiring and I wish we could just move past this, bc what matters is WHO she is and which decisions SHE makes… this is what I want to see, not this stupid parentage mystery

Rey’s story was mangled from the start by the excessive focus on the mystery of her origins, especially if she truly is a Random. What should have been a story of an abandoned girl who is alone in the universe but finds friends, new family, and a great destiny became eaten up by a bullshit mystery.

Her arc, already not that stellar in TFA, went to new lows in TLJ when it started revolving around two male characters instead of being her own, and even the mystery was a colossal waste of time and attention.

Rian Johnson is definitely the worst of two evils here, but both he and JJ mishandled Rey. It’s just our luck that the first female protagonist of the Star Wars saga met two successive writers/directors who shortcharge female characters so badly. JJ needs to step his game the hell up in Episode IX and stop making Rey’s story about everyone but her.

Yet more parallels between Biblical Moses and The Force Awakens: Our hero, while fleeing the genocidal enslaving regime he grew up in, runs to the desert and meets the heroine, an extraordinary desert-dwelling woman with whom he forms a deep and lasting bond. Her father figure becomes the hero’s mentor and advisor, unafraid to give the younger man tough advice when he needs it.

worth-three-portions:

Part 3 of three. I’ve decide that from now on, what I draw will be taking place in an alternative timeline which I shall call the “Four buns AU” where everything is the same as it was at the end of TFA, except Rey has her hair in four buns instead of three, and TLJ never happened 😀

Here are parts #1 and #2. 

I love Finn and I love John and they deserve all the good things in the galaxy!!