classifiedxrey:

so yeah the ‘you’re nothing’ line is awful and abusive and manipulative and should disqualify kylo ren from any positive relationship with rey ever and the fact that people are romanticising it is frankly disgusting but let’s also remind ourselves of some other moments in tlj: 

  • rey’s first instinct on seeing ren was to shoot him 
  • ren’s first instinct on seeing rey was to attempt to force her to bring luke to him, his motives are clear from the start 
  • she spends their first three interactions insulting him, rebuffing him and generally telling him to fuck off
  • the force “”bond”” is non consensual. rey never consented to it. ren never consented either but when he realised what it was, he instantly began using it to manipulate rey for his own purposes. 
  • the true force bond (which this is not) is not inherently romantic. previous force bonds include erza and darth maul as well as luke and leia. claiming that this bond is romantic is similar to claiming the connection between harry and voldemort in order of the phoenix is romantic when it’s sole narrative purpose is to manipulate the hero and for the hero to eventually overcome it 
  • she is extremely uncomfortable in his presence for their first interactions
  • ren manipulates rey into putting herself into a situation that would make her more emotionally vulnerable and feel completely and utterly alone because he wanted something from her aka luke’s location and her power
  • she didn’t want to turn him because she cared about him, she wanted to turn him for strategic value for the resistance
  • they don’t care about each other, just what the other person can bring to their side 
  • they only get along for five minutes before realising that their goals are completely incompatible with one another and the immediate reaction of ren is to begin insulting, manipulating and degrading rey. 
  • rey turned ren down, cementing their places on opposing sides 
  • rey left ren for dead on a ship that was about to blow up. this is literally the second time that she has done this in five days. 
  • ren ordered the falcon blown out of the sky with a high probability that rey was on it
  • seriously, he sent his entire air support to shoot down his father’s ship. the ship he knew rey had arrived on and that chewbacca was definitely on. 
  • one of ren’s final lines in the movie is a promise to ‘destroy her [rey], and you and all of it’. sounds pretty comprehensive to me when you consider he attempted to murder luke moments later 
  • when ren attempted to reconnect with rey through the bond, she rejected him metaophorically and physically 
  • rey looked happier hugging finn and talking to poe for a combined 25 seconds than she has talking to ren. ever. full stop. period. end of. 
  • speaking of the scene with poe, this is a direct response to the ‘you’re nothing’ line. it’s there to show rey and the audience that ren was wrong and she’s not nothing. that she is both someone and important. 

in conclusion, romanticising any of this is romanticising the emotional abuse and manipulation of a 19 year old girl who has gone through a lot emotionally in the past five or so days we’ve known her and have been following her journey. r*ylo is nothing but a shocking case study in how we as a society are conditioned to believe that a woman’s abuse, discomfort and pain is sexy if there’s a mildly attractive white man involved. thank you for coming to my ted talk. 

curiousartemis:

It’s funny how perspective differs from individual to individual. 

Just read an article wherein the author (a man, probably straight) claimed that “everyone is in love with Rey.” I legit read it twice and wondered if that was a typo. Cause it’s pretty obvious that everyone is in love with Finn?? Like, way obvious. He gets a kiss from Rose, jealous looks and a warm fuzzy hug from Rey, and when Poe hears he’s awake and walking around naked he practically cartwheels out of his x-wing.

Just HOW do you come away from that thinking everyone is in love with REY? Yeah, Finn, obviously, has a thing for her. And….? AND….? I legit don’t know who else.

kayardia:

spoilers for tlj below

ok you know what? unpopular opinion. I LIKE that rey is a ‘nobody’

because guess what? she’s the fricking opposite to douchebag ‘let the past die’ kyle ron.

He is a fanatic about his bloodline; as is Snoke, who wanted to carve him into new Darth Vader, and he is obsessed with fulfilling his grandfather’s destiny. He was expected to be something great bc his parents are freaking Han Solo and Princess Leia, his uncle is the the legendary Luke Skywalker. What did he do? He threw it away. He had everything, two parents who were heroes, and he chose to follow his darker bloodline to fulfil his destiny, his ‘birthright’.

Rey has none of that shit. She, apparently, is special of her own right. Maybe her parents are somebodies. Maybe Kylo was lying. But what if he wasn’t? What if rey really is nobody?

And if she is… maybe we can accept that she is special on her own. She has something and it bloomed and awakened in her. Because when she was nobody and seemed to have nothing, she did have something.

Love. Kindness. Hope. The Force. It manifested in her – so what if her parents weren’t big heroes or deadly villains? These qualities developed in Rey on her own. By herself. Kyle Ron was ‘raised right’ and still he tossed it away. He’s consumed by his privilege and his anger.

Doesn’t it remind you of Finn? Finn was a freaking stormtrooper stolen as a baby. He had no CHANCE to be raised right – but he made the conscious choice to desert.

Do we know who Han Solo’s parents were? Do we care? HELL NO. Han Solo is cool OF HIS OWN RIGHT. So why can’t we accept rey and finn?

Star Wars and the Jedi and Sith have always been about inheritance, true. Rey and Finn are a breath of fresh air, something new. Maybe she’s that spark that is needed to finally set the universe back into balance. Maybe these heroes are the ones who come from nowhere, and get to somewhere. And that’s how these heroes are gonna smack the shit out of Kylo Ren.

We are not our parents. That is one message behind a lot of Star Wars philosophy. It made Luke who he is. It made Kylo Ren what he became. And it’s making Rey too. So what if she’s not got a big shot dad or mum? She’s got something. It’s herself, and the qualities that make her good. And I think that could more inspiring than fan theory of the month whos yo daddy.

I love the idea of Rey Random for all these reasons. What I don’t love is the completely unnecessary mystery set up around it. It would have been so much more powerful if we had known from the start that her parents were just these losers who had sold her. There’s drama and then there’s mystery, and confusing the two doesn’t make for a good story at all. See also this Film Crit Hulk article on the subject.