thelastjedicritical:

There should absolutely be some mysterious reason why Rey can’t kill Kylo. She can knock him out, defeat him for the moment but she can’t end him. And the only one who can should be Finn. and NO it’s not bc Rey’s in love with Kylo, you nasties, it should all be some crazy  Force related mumbo jumbo!

Rey’s the Zuko in this narrative, at least in that narrow sense–Zuko passed on a clear chance to kill his asshole father Luke Ozai, saying that was Aang’s job as the Avatar. Rey herself in the novelization knew that it was not the will of the Force that she kill Kylo Ren (and no, she felt nothing for him lol). It would be cool if Finn is the Aang in this scenario who has the legitimacy and the will of the Force behind him to end Kylo Ren–or better yet, pull an actual Aang and strip the asshole of his Force powers. Remember how I keep raving about how Finn might be Force immune? Imagine if he could turn that on its head and take away another Force user’s powers…

This would be an idea for Rey’s ship. One of the things about the Millenium Falcon is that both Luke and Leia, and the audience if successful, are supposed to find it shoddy and ugly. Of course, decades later, the Millenium Falcon has become a favorite, and is cheered for when it comes on screen. With Rey’s ship, the expectations would be lowered again.

Her scavenger aesthetic I made in her concept art carries over to this. It’s intentionally made to look like a sandcrawler, which in legends were created thousands of years ago to be sturdy but cheap mining equipment, and this would be a smaller version. However, Rey has repurposed it into her own, making it airtight and outfitting it with life-support systems. The treads have been made retractable for hyperspeed, and she fitted an inflatable raft and side cannon for sticky situations.

Also, she made a figurehead in the style of General Grievous, who, in the years since the Clone Wars, has gained a legacy as a scavenger lord so good at finding parts, he could repair himself over and over again. (Moth)

I’m not even that big of a fan of Harry Potter, but I liked your post so much I drew up these. Young Rey on the streets and Young Finn as a Death Eater.

Easter Eggs
-Unkar Plutt becomes Uncle Plutt, the Troll crimeboss.
-Rey is in Knockturn Alley, but she thinks she has no magic, and is thus highly loyal to Plutt.
-Finn’s adoptive brother Slip dies in his arms shortly before his first day at Hogwarts.
-Finn’s Death Eater mask is based off from the First Order stormtrooper helmet.

disneybrony:

At Walmart last night and found these adorable cards!! And not a single one with Kylo (;

These all look like cute, upbeat cards, and it looks like Kylo would be distinctly out of place here. Almost like he’s not a hero or something! Bonus points for Finn and Rey being directly associated with the Millenium Falcon, reylow bellyaching to the contrary 😂

Luke wasn’t completely wrong to spare Kyle? What. Thanks to TLJ and Johnson, Luke Was A Dick is pretty much the only concrete reason offered by the ST movies as to why Kyle is the way that he is. There’s nothing else. Almost nobody reads the goddamn novels, Snoke abusing Kyle Ben is not a thing with general audience. Luke’s shouldering the whole blame (thank’s sfm, RJ).

jewishcomeradebot:

lj-writes:

It really should take only half a second of critical thinking to realize that Luke couldn’t have made Kylo evil–that Kylo was already consumed by it when Luke looked into his mind. Kylo then slaughtered Luke’s students and took his already-turned friends in what was clearly a premeditated attack. JJ had better make that clear in IX.

I think JJ will. Plus I can see a way he can make it reasonable that neither Luke nor Rey killed him without turning him good or, like Gollum, save the story, detracting from the heroes. (Yes I always hated the ending of LotR, it’s cheap imo.)

Anyway.

Here’s how: Mark likened the whole thing to the theoretical question, “if you could go back in time and kill baby Hitler, would you?”.

But to Jews that was always a nonsense question.

Why? Because it wouldn’t have made one lick of difference, WWII would still have happened, the Holocaust would still have happened. Because Hitler was only one guy, he alone caused NOTHING to happen. The forces that made the Nazis try to exterminate Jews and Romani people, with the applause of most of Europe and the rest of the world, was already moving. It would all have happened anyway. And with someone more competent than Hitler possibly have been much, much worse.

So why didn’t Luke kill Ben? Because he realized that it wouldn’t make a lick of difference to what was going to happen. Heck it’s not even sure that his school and the rest of the students would have survived even if he hadn’t done that lightsaber check next to his nephew. Because Kylo/Ben is just one man. Even if removed, he’d still have his hangers on that could act without him and it looked like was ready to.

And in the longer term, what then? Remove Kylo and what happens? The exact same damn thing. Because Snoke still exists, Hux still exists, Starkiller Base is already being build and will be completed, the whole of the First Order is already on the rise and the Republic will do nothing.

Kylo or no Kylo, it changes nothing, this goes far beyond just one man. Only difference is that Snoke might have found a different apprentice, possibly one who’s more competent and less self-absorbed and arrogant, and everything would then have been so much worse. The story, our story, could have been over before it even started.

And again in TLJ. Even if we take the nonsense reason that the novel supplies for Rey not killing Kylo on face value and JJ decides to go with that.

Again it wouldn’t make any difference. Only change is that someone else, possibly a more competent commander would take the reigns of the First Order. Hux might be a conservative and unimaginative by-the-book commander who’s very bad at dealing with unconventional tactics and innovative strategies, but at least he knows the book. Kylo on the other hand is a lets-antagonize-all-of-Europe-and-then-invade-Russia-in-winter style of commander.

Yes the Force still needs him, because his lack of competence gives the Resistance and the Light side a chance that would be snuffed out with a more competent guy at the helm.

People – and by people I mean goydje – forget that the Nazis were largely incompetent and that neo-Nazis are really no better. What made and makes them so terrifying isn’t that they’re competent, but that the could do what they did because the majority of people in Europe agreed wholeheartedly with their agenda. They only opposed it when they too became a target.

Which is really no different from what has been happening in a Galaxy Far Far Away. On the whole, no one gave a shit about the genocides and general abuses the First Order were committing as long as they themselves were not its target, a lot even supported it. And now everyone has to deal with that.

Am I the only one who liked the LotR climax 😂 Also omg the Hitler comparison! Kylo does remind me of him, especially the dramatization in the 2004 film Untergang. And that’s not a commentary on mental illness; Hitler’s evil was not caused by mental illness (link if anyone wants support for the obvious, some ableism at link). Rather, the behavioral similarities arise from their shared sense of entitlement and their fundamental dishonesty about the world.

You’re right, if Luke had killed Kylo someone else would have been Snoke’s apprentice, likely one of Kylo’s school buddies. And look, no one’s going to convince me Kylo was the sharpest knife in any drawer. I can easily believe, however, that he was the most powerful Force user and the most violent in action and temper. If his interactions with Hux are any indication, Kylo became the ringleader of their group by choking and intimidating the hell out of any dissent. I bet there is or was a far smarter Knight of Ren who was either forced to fall in line or was killed by Kylo. If Luke had killed Kylo that person would have been the Master of the Knights of Ren and a far more dangerous foe.

Worse, Luke would have been vilified as a murderer who killed his young nephew in his sleep while Kylo would have become a junior martyr alongside Vader. The aforementioned smarter Knight would have been savvy enough to effectively use the memory of the hated dead asshole.

If Rey had killed Kylo Ren, Hux would have laughed his ass off to find his job done for him. The FO would have gone away and regrouped, likely with Hux at their head, with Ren again a martyr before he could expose himself very publicly on Crait for the ridiculous flop he was. And Ren will continue to flub and make mistakes and throw embarrassing tantrums because, again, he is self-entitled and dishonest.

Kylo Ren is not a Dark Side villain

I’ve started to think the real conflict in the sequel trilogy might actually not be between the Light and Dark Sides of the Force. The former can be immoral and the latter can be moral, after all.

Pacifism in the face of injustice can be irresponsible cowardice, which is why people have criticized the “That’s how we win” line. Rationality in the face of others’ pain can be dismissive and callous, as we saw with Yoda toward Anakin.

On the other hand, violence to fight unjust violence is moral. That’s the entire foundation of the Rebellion and later Resistance. Anger and pain in the face of oppression, suffering with those who suffer, can be compassion.

No, I now think the real conflict in the sequel trilogy is between elitism and egalitarianism. Think about it. JJ has said that it’s very deliberate that Finn and Rey don’t have last names. We thought it was because they would get big reveals later on (or at least fandom, including me, thought that was true of Rey), but what if he meant something else entirely?

The third main hero in the new movies is Poe, who has a last name and known family but who was at best solidly midle class his whole life. In TLJ we got Rose, whose homeworld was destroyed by the First Order.

These heroes are arrayed against Kylo Ren, a son and nephew of famous heroes and a genetically powerful Force user, who had every advantage growing up and every reason to be the greatest force for good the galaxy had seen.

In a way, being told he is the ultimate good may be the very reason he went so very wrong. Kylo’s actor Adam Driver has said that Kylo has absolute conviction that he is right and that he is an elitist. What would that do to a person’s morality if he is told, implicitly or explicitly, that he can do no wrong by virtue of being a good guy and that he is a cut above everyone else?

Maybe this is why many people are still flummoxed by Kylo Ren’s character and insist that his motivations are lacking, that he is incomprehensible. Our template of the main antagonist in Star Wars is Darth Vader, who was indeed a Dark Side villain whose passion and fear ran amok, motivating him to murder and destruction. That’s why fans read abuse, brainwashing, or the loss of a loved one into Kylo Ren’s character, so we can fit him in the mold of the Dark Side.

But what if there is no Dark Side to be read into his character? What if there was no anger, fear, or loss that motivated him, at least not from legitimate loss or pain?

What if Kylo Ren’s brand of evil is far more mundane: Self-righteousness and arrogance?

In this frame, we can see why Rey misjudged him in The Last Jedi. Like the fandom, she thought Kylo Ren was driven by suffering and could be reached by a hand of friendship and understanding, like Luke had reached Vader. She learned to her surprise that Kylo didn’t hate the father he murdered, which should have made her rethink her approach. Luke himself who knew both Kylo and Vader warned her that she was dangerously misreading the situation.

And when Rey forgave Kylo Ren the pain he caused her, believed in him, stood by his side, and fought by his side–it had no effect on him at all. He had plenty of people believe in him, love him, and even forgive him after he did the unforgivable. That wasn’t what was wrong with him. It wasn’t the Dark Side that made him evil.

Rather he believed he was he ultimate good, that destroying the galaxy and remaking it in his image was the right thing to do. He thought Rey was nothing and had no place in the story because of her unremarkable birth, and only through him could she find meaning and worth.

The real evil in the sequel trilogy isn’t lashing out in hatred and suffering. It’s the belief that you are better than everyone else and are entitled to use others as a means to your ends. Such a belief may lead to suffering, such as rage at the fact that people aren’t treating you with the deference you believe you are due, but in that case you are not evil because you suffer; rather, your suffering stems from your evil belief.

This is the kind of evil the heroes of the sequel trilogy are standing against, and that their backgrounds and choices refute. Finn was kidnapped and enslaved to be a means for the glory of his leaders like Kylo, but he refused the role. He asserted his own individuality and self-worth and wanted to run far away from the First Order before he decided to fight with the Resistance.

Rey grew up in deprivation but never gave up hope, always longing for people who would love her and with whom she had a place. She projected her own pain onto Kylo, and that very nearly became her downfall.

Poe, like Kylo, was raised as one of the “good guys.” Unlike Kylo, however, he always remained open to questioning himself and whether he was doing the right thing. When he saw evidence of First Order activity as a Republic pilot, he didn’t dismiss it because he thought the Republic was always right. Instead he changed his entire life, leaving behind stability and certainty, to do the right thing. When a Stormtrooper offered to rescue him, Poe believed him and became his friend. In TLJ, though the execution was somewhat muddled, he again showed the humility to question his assumptions and admit when others were right.

Rose, like Finn, was one of the people Kylo deemed inferior and expendable. Like Finn she rejected that to fight back, and like Rey she knows she is more than her birth. Like Poe she showed a willingness to admit when she was wrong and to change her views.

These are the democratic and egalitarian heroes who will fight Kylo Ren despite the odds, who respond to his terrifyingly egocentric worldview with a resounding “no.” No, we are not fodder for your ambitions. No, we do not accept that we are less. No, the greater good is not in some Übermensch because good and evil lie in choices, not individuals or sides. No, we will not bow to you. No, we will not let you continue on this path of destruction. No. No. NO.

Kylo Ren is not evil because he is on the Dark Side of the Force, but because he believes himself to be the absolute good and the ultimate worth due to who he is. It is why he is a villain for our times and why he must be defeated by our heroes.

themandalorianwolf:

What if Rey doesn’t want to be a Jedi after the war?

Unlike Anakin, who was escaping a life of slavery, and Luke, who literally was escaping the Empire and life as a farmer, Rey only wanted her family and to be happy with her life. What if being a Jedi isn’t what Rey wants? Yes, she wanted to understand what the force was and she wants to end the war, but none of that actually has to do with her future or what she specifically wants for herself.

What if after the dust clears and the New Republic is stable again, Rey leaves the future of the Jedi in the hands of Finn, if he’s confirmed to be force sensitive finally, or maybe Luke, if he’s alive, or anyone force sensitive like Ahsoka or Ezra, if they’re alive. Long story short, what if Rey decides that being a Jedi, isn’t for her.

Maybe Rey decides that instead of becoming a warrior, she wants to help people in another way.

Maybe Rey works her ass off and manages to become a Senator for Jakku, and persuades the New Republic fo accept the Desert planet as part of it.

Rey knows what it’s like to live on a horrible Outer Rim World and fights to start getting these forgotten worlds the help they need. Regardless of if Rey is a Skywalker or a random, maybe she can finally find some peace and happiness outside of battle.

I like the idea of Rey going on to start the Jedi Order again, but I like the fact of Rey also getting to walk away from war for good if that’s what she wants.

Think back on how much suffering Anakin and Luke went through… maybe for once, Rey can be the Jedi who walks away, but not to the dark side, or because she was exiled, but just because for the first time ever, Rey wants to live her own life.

Maybe she’ll become Chancellor one day, or maybe she will just stay as senator, helping out the worlds that she can, and then retire one day and live out her years with her family and loved ones. I don’t know, It’s a thought.

This. Let Rey be defined by what SHE wants, not what others demand of her because of her power.

thelastjedicritical:

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themandalorianwolf:

thelastjedicritical:

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Oh gee, I guess this means Rey/C-3PO is canon. >_<

You don’t wanna know what his red arm symbolized… of course it is!

Rey will have his baby calculators 

Just imagine baby calculators though, isn’t that sweet? And they’ll be Force sensitive!

I could warm to the idea…

I’m ready now! Make this canon! Look at these little beans! 😍😍

Edit:

Look at this drama:

What did the calculator do???

THE BABY’S DROID HALF ATTACKED THE ORGANIC HALF IT IS WAR