bai-xue-lives:

lj-writes:

bai-xue-lives:

lj-writes:

bai-xue-lives:

diversehighfantasy:

Seriously tho, don’t use “but the racists are getting a pass!” while complaining that shipping communities are losing a safe and empowering place to share porn.

The most dominant shipping communities uphold racist aesthetic ideals, methodically erase people of color from their narratives and uphold white men as superior to all – and they continue to congratulate themselves for their own enlightenment while doing it.

Instead of glorifying shipping communities as empowering spaces for women, this is an opportunity to talk about what’s really lurking under that so-called subversive feminism.

After all the ugliness they’ve injected into Tumblr fan spaces, we can do better than letting them go down as martyrs. (Again.)

Just say you’re happy the purge happened and be done with it lmao

#Why are antis like this#Antis just love censorship and will pull out any fake woke takes they can find to defend it#Y’all are seriously accusing shippers of trying to fake martyrdom#And implicitly comparing shippers to literal white supremacists#Please for the love of God go outside

Imagine taking a fan objecting to the sanitization of fandom racism and twisting her words into advocating censorship.

Imagine thinking that shipping in any way compares to running hate blogs and twisting this whole trainwreck into being shippers’ faults, somehow

You’ll have to point out where op said shipping equals racism. She said racism is rampant in dominant shipping communities, which does not translate into all shippers being dedicated white supremacists. One has to wonder why you construe this as a personal attack on shippers.

“don’t use “but the racists are getting a pass!” while complaining that shipping communities are losing a safe and empowering place to share porn.”

That right there by necessity posits that shippers and racists (specifically meaning white supremacists in the context of the overall discussion on tumblr) are two sides of the same coin

We all know that racism is a problem in fandom. We know that. However, specifically relating it to the issue of white supremacist blogs being left untouched while transformative fiction blogs are purged, with the implication that somehow white supremacy and shipping can be compared in any way, is disingenuous at best.

This post is bad (or, at the very least, badly worded) and OP should feel bad.

If you can’t see the fundamental disingenuousness in the dichotomy the op objected to–between white supremacists on the one hand and “empowering” fandom communities on the other–then you don’t actually see fandom racism as a problem. If you give lip service to the idea of fandom racism but jump on to derail a post about fandom racism, if you whine about fandom being painted unfairly while ignoring how Black women who talk about fandom racism are harassed and attacked and threatened and called fascists and worse (gee, I wonder why op might not see much daylight between fandom’s treatment of her and outright alt right assholes?), then no, you don’t see fandom racism as a problem. You’re saying you do while being ready and willing to attack the people most affected who actually do speak out about it.

bai-xue-lives:

lj-writes:

bai-xue-lives:

diversehighfantasy:

Seriously tho, don’t use “but the racists are getting a pass!” while complaining that shipping communities are losing a safe and empowering place to share porn.

The most dominant shipping communities uphold racist aesthetic ideals, methodically erase people of color from their narratives and uphold white men as superior to all – and they continue to congratulate themselves for their own enlightenment while doing it.

Instead of glorifying shipping communities as empowering spaces for women, this is an opportunity to talk about what’s really lurking under that so-called subversive feminism.

After all the ugliness they’ve injected into Tumblr fan spaces, we can do better than letting them go down as martyrs. (Again.)

Just say you’re happy the purge happened and be done with it lmao

#Why are antis like this#Antis just love censorship and will pull out any fake woke takes they can find to defend it#Y’all are seriously accusing shippers of trying to fake martyrdom#And implicitly comparing shippers to literal white supremacists#Please for the love of God go outside

Imagine taking a fan objecting to the sanitization of fandom racism and twisting her words into advocating censorship.

Imagine thinking that shipping in any way compares to running hate blogs and twisting this whole trainwreck into being shippers’ faults, somehow

You’ll have to point out where op said shipping equals racism. She said racism is rampant in dominant shipping communities, which does not translate into all shippers being dedicated white supremacists. One has to wonder why you construe this as a personal attack on shippers.

bai-xue-lives:

diversehighfantasy:

Seriously tho, don’t use “but the racists are getting a pass!” while complaining that shipping communities are losing a safe and empowering place to share porn.

The most dominant shipping communities uphold racist aesthetic ideals, methodically erase people of color from their narratives and uphold white men as superior to all – and they continue to congratulate themselves for their own enlightenment while doing it.

Instead of glorifying shipping communities as empowering spaces for women, this is an opportunity to talk about what’s really lurking under that so-called subversive feminism.

After all the ugliness they’ve injected into Tumblr fan spaces, we can do better than letting them go down as martyrs. (Again.)

Just say you’re happy the purge happened and be done with it lmao

#Why are antis like this#Antis just love censorship and will pull out any fake woke takes they can find to defend it#Y’all are seriously accusing shippers of trying to fake martyrdom#And implicitly comparing shippers to literal white supremacists#Please for the love of God go outside

Imagine taking a fan objecting to the sanitization of fandom racism and twisting her words into advocating censorship.

diversehighfantasy:

This gem about Kylo Ren comes from @left-wing-reyloist, a highly entertaining faux-intellectual blog that has a “particular focus on deconstructing the validity of anti culture’s supposed progressives.”

I love it. Labeling reylo critical content as empty progressive posturing while blatantly using “left-wing politics” to push meta about how Kylo Ren is an admirable character because….

Well, they haven’t answered that. Everything is focused on antis being incapable to process the nuances of a character who should by all rights be a horrifying villain in the late ‘10s, a sad manboy filled with rage against God knows what who is fully capable of acting on it.

The thing that keeps Kylo and Hux from being truly terrifying is that they lack the competence of their predecessors, and are made to look like fools in ways Vader and Palpatine never were. There is a danger in not taking an incompetent buffoon seriously, as we have well learned since the 2016 US presidential election, but to straight up celebrate and support them is far worse.

Kylo Ren is a perfect villain of our time, and the fact that he wins so many over, not with words but with puppydog eyes, would be fascinating if it wasn’t at the expense of characters who stand for everything our real life disaster-in-chief and the angry white majority who voted for him hates.

On no planet or alternate timeline does Kylo represent the antithesis of the alt-right. Is he “nuanced”? I mean, in the real world, most of the worst people have or had people they love. Many have mothers who loved them. They have feelings. People who commit atrocities *do* have feelings and can even come off as appealing. People should be aware of that. Being human doesn’t make one a hero, or even an “anti villain.”

I find it funny that now, overshadowed by Killmonger as a sympathetic villain, suddenly Kylo Ren is being described as a Well-Intentioned Extremist. Funny, because it describes Killmonger perfectly, but is so far from everything we know about Kylo that it looks like yall are just trying to ride on the coattails of Killmonger commentary because he’s actually sympathetic – and, more importantly, had a goal to lift up the oppressed and downtrodden. Kylo thinks he and the FO are right, but who is he trying to help? As in a plural who, committing extremist crimes because he supposedly has a crush on a woman doesn’t cut it.

Riddick, The Operative, and Boba Fett are anti-villains. Hell, even Loki wasn’t entirely motivated by self interest.

Kylo is a sad monster who looks innocent. There’s nothing scarier than that.

(Final note to left-wing-reyloist: Intellectually honest political commentators, if you’re even being serious, don’t refuse to engage with those who disagree with them. Blocking me – when it’s clear I’m one of the “antis” you’re actively trying to invalidate – is a weakass move.)

So this joker claims to be a socialist (this is from the header, I think I’m blocked too 😂) but calls an explicit neo-Nazi analogue a “well-intentioned extremist?” Mmkay then.

lesbinewren:

someone: rey should be with someone who understands her! maybe if it was a guy who was brainwashed from a young age and forced to be on the evil side and was all alone with no friends, but despite all of that he overcame it! someone that is caring and compassionate and doesn’t want to hurt other people!

me, nodding along: exactly! that’s why she and fi-

someone: which is all exactly why i ship her with kylo!

me:

thesovereignempress deleted her new blog in a fit of rage because the other reyl*s continued to be racist and wouldn’t forgive her for the doxxing: rey-is-ace-rey-is-aro. tumblr. com/ post/179977837431/i-cant-do-this-anymore

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I hardly know who I despise more: the racist fans who refuse to engage in any self-awareness whatsoever and relentlessly bully people who try to bring attention to fandom racism, or the shitty doxxer (and her supporters) who pouts and whines because she isn’t given the forgiveness and acceptance she feels entitled to. A plague o’ both their houses.

twitter*com/ashlinthejedi/status/1041064269641658369 did i hallucinate kyle ron throwing her into a tree and mind-raping her? poe’s impulsive but as far as i know has never treated anyone he genuinely cares for (finn, leia) like shit so this makes no sense to me???

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[Twitter user Ashlin! @/psykylogist Poe Dameron is actually a living anarchist and y’all insist that he’d treat Rey better than Ben? The only thing that man has higher than Ben is his kill count…]

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I like how they think “anarchist” is some kind of count against his character. Maybe they’re using it interchangeably with “terrorist?” (Terrorism and extremism are common talking points against Poe, I wonnnnder why.) I may not like Doomerey but I do enjoy how hilariously threatened Reylows are by it, maybe because it’s still better than their ship despite being a whole lot of nothing. It used to be Finn they used to accuse of killing more people than Benny, funny how it’s Poe they’re attacking now.

For extra amusement points watch this person being torn apart in their own comments section and get all pissy 😂