The Economics of Storytelling

rose-griffes:

You’re rebooting a billion-dollar film franchise with new young leads and you’ve convinced the older cast members to return. You create a leading woman character and include a ~mystery~ about what her family origins are. 

Who have you secretly written for her father?

A. Iconic character from the original franchise; also the ‘MacGuffin’ of of your new film. He meets your leading woman at the end in a wordless, emotionally charged moment.

B. Iconic character from the original franchise; he spends time with your leading woman and, in spite of his gruff  exterior, cares about her well-being enough to offer her a chance to escape her difficult circumstances.

C. Iconic character from the original and sequel franchise; he died years before your leading woman was born, so either he’s not the father or you have to write some mumbo-jumbo to make him fit that role. There’s no reference to him in the film other than the first given name of the man who kills character B. 

D. IDK, just some random dude. 

B. Had so much rapport with her the two of them finished each other’s sentences, and shared the love of the ship that is all but synonymous with him. He was described as “the father [she] never had,” was perhaps “more grateful than anyone” that she was safe, was murdered before her eyes in a setup that would create incredible drama if he is her father.

C. Can only be her grandfather due to the dates, and the father or mother would be a character from an animated series which the vast majority of the audience have never seen and have no reason to care about.

On the choice of mothers you have:

A. A random lady who will have to be another absent/dead mother or be built up from the second movie onward on top of everything else that’s going on.

B. Iconic character from the original and sequel franchise; an indomitable, beloved heroine for decades both in-universe and in the real world who would have memorable mother-daughter interactions with the heroine and be the linchpin of a heartrending family drama.

C. Another random lady

D. Yet another random lady

Question, how old is Kylo Ren supposed to be in TFA? I know AD is like 30’sh. But I just saw where he refers to Kylo as a ‘kid’ and RJ said that thing about relating to someone struggling with adolescence. So is AD playing a way younger person? Is he supposed to be a teen even though he is over thirty? I’m honestly confused.

absolxguardian:

lj-writes:

You know what’s sad? This isn’t even the first time I’ve seen people confused about Kylo Ren’s age due to Rian’s and Adam’s comments. I’ve seen someone ask a similar question on Reddit, too.

To clear things up, yes, Kylo Ren is close to 30, not much younger than the actor who plays him (Adam Driver is 33). Ren was born Ben Solo in 5 ABY (after the Battle of Yavin), and the events of The Force Awakens took place in 34 ABY, making him around 29 during the movie.

I think the following comments by Adam about his character in an interview for the December, 2017 issue of GQ add a bit of clarification (emphasis added):

“It makes complete sense how juvenile he can be. You can see that with our leadership and politics. You have world leaders who you imagine — or hope or pray — are living by kind of a higher code of ethics. But it really all comes down to them feeling wronged or unloved or wanting validation.”

So no, the character isn’t juvenile in physical age, he just acts that way. I hope that clears things up. And no, that’s not because he’s a sweet confused baby or whatever, the actor himself is very clear that it’s about a lack of ethics. In the same interview Adam talks about the absolute conviction of terrorists as another influence on the portrayal of his character.

Kylo Ren, much like the real-life morally bankrupt people Adam refers to, may have real struggles and pain in his life. Who doesn’t? The point is that he chose to deal with those issues, or rather failed to, in an immature and entitled way and that is why he comes across as so adolescent.

Heck, it seems in universe, people are confused about Kylo’s age. He’s literally the age of the New Republic (like he shares his birthday with the signing of the galactic concordance), but in bloodline (6 years before TFA, Kylo is 24) Leia sees him as too young to tell him about Vader. 

Kylo does have the feel of someone whose development stalled off at some point in the past, and I wonder how much of it has to do with personal trauma and how much with the way he was raised. I suspect both.

On personal trauma, Ben’s relationship with his parents already appears to be distant at the time of Bloodline and we’re still in the dark about what sent Han and Leia into separation and prompted Leia to send their son to Luke. LucasFilm officials have stated that the murkiness in Han’s past is due to necessity.

On the parenting side, Leia’s decision also strikes me as someone trying to protect a part of herself, projecting onto her son and trying to protect in him an innocence she never had. She had watched her home planet be destroyed, been tortured mercilessly by a fascist enforcer (who turned out to be her biological father, yay), and learned about the Skywalker part of her heritage before she was Ben’s age at the time of the novel. People who went through a lot at a young age sometimes cope by trying to protect their own children, and it seldom works well. It’s alternately stifling and alienating to be treated as younger than your age, and Ben may have reacted with corresponding petulance and distance.

Leia may also have feared what additional strains the revelation might place on her relationship with her son. In this sense it was the relationship she was trying to protect–again, not an effective  strategy that relied on a lack of communication and avoiding difficult subjects rather than facing them as a family.

I think there is room to talk about Han and Leia as loving but flawed parents who were not always coping well with their own severe traumas, while also squarely placing the responsibility for Kylo Ren’s crimes on himself where it belongs. I have so much sympathy for Leia because I don’t even know how she could have functioned with the magnitude of what she had suffered, and blocking things out was perhaps the only way she could work or even survive. But it certainly had a terrible effect on her family life and, I believe, her child.

Do Reylos not realize that even if kylo lives to the end of the new trilogy he will be put in prison for the rest of his life or more likely executed by the Resistance/New Republic? Like Leia can’t save him and she knows it, he’s done, he chose his fate. It is really revealing how reylos will go to any length to make excuses for the anti-social genocidal fascist maniac just to ship him with the girl he undeniably violated and tortured with glee. He had a bad childhood? Tough bananas.

“It was a war! Both sides killed people!”

pentapoda:

Since I’m traveling, no digital art, but please enjoy Star Wars sketch night. Featuring:

  • What if that jacket was available at the Space equivalent of the Gap,
  • Rey telling training stories, 
  • Rey loving food almost as much as she loves Finn, and 
  • Rey giving everyone a piggyback because of that adorable picture with Daisy Ridley and Mark Hamill

Autistic finnrey headcanons pls??

lesbianjubilee:

  • finn goes nonverbal when he’s overwhelmed and he and rey use space asl to communicate when finn cant speak
  • theyre the flapping duo…….sometimes rey gets excited at something and flaps, and finn sees her flapping and he flaps!!! they end up a giggling mess
  • finn was taught all his life to suppress his autistic traits, whereas rey was always free to express herself. she gives him the confidence to outwardly express his autism
  • rey loves certain loud noises, but finn hates them!! he carries ear mufflers around in case he needs them
  • rey infodumps about mechanic stuff and finn strokes her hair. he doesnt care about it that much but he likes hearing her explain it 
  • neither of them like eye contact and theyre comfortable being intimate without looking each other in the eye
  • they both do echolalia sometimes finn says “…plorp” and rey says “plorp!” and they go back and forth like that 😀 

AHHHH THIS IS SO CUTE THE FLAPPING DUO 😍😍😍 I want to see Finn in cute porg earmuffs ❤

This isn’t even the first time reylos have claimed economics as a reason their ship will happen. I saw a post saying Disney would be crazy to pass on cash cow reylo babies. But Rey is just as capable of having babies with Finn, the guy she already finds attractive and has a deep bond with? I wonder why shippers think finnrey babies wouldn’t be as lucrative.

diversehighfantasy:

johnnyclash87:

diversehighfantasy:

It would ruin the aesthetic.

Gotta have those pure white Skywalkers, even though the Solo babies would have been biracial Black if George had his way and his own youngest baby Everst Lucas is biracial Black. Which, btw, I think is a point that supports Finnrey, even though Lucas doesn’t run the show anymore.

Do it for Everest.

Hold up, what’s this about the Solo babies being biracial? Were Han or Leia originally supposed to be Black?

Han was originally conceived and cast as Black. Many Black actors, including Billy Dee Williams, auditioned for the part, and it ultimately went to Glynn Turman (true story). Lucas did not have 100% control, and the studio got cold feet because Han was being set up to possibly have a relationship with Leia, so he was recast with Harrison Ford.

So, if Lucas had been allowed to cast his first choice (Turman), and everything else was the same, Kylo Ren would be Black.

If Han had been played by Glynn as originally envisioned Luke/Leia would have been a MUCH bigger ship and Skycest fans would be bitching to this day about how their ship should have been canon. Since I, like you, believe Rey and Kylo are siblings I think that scenario is belatedly becoming reality with Reylo and Finnrey. Reylos and assorted anti Finnreys are never ever going to stop bellyaching if/when Finnrey becomes canon.

kyberfox:

A birthday fic for @scorpiofinn​. Bittersweet Finnpoe.


There are nights, even long after the war is over, where Finn still finds himself haunted by ghosts from the pasts. Ghosts of those that died, by his hand or by others, as well as ghosts of those who lived. Many times the last ones are the hardest ones to live with.

Sometimes he can see the reflection of ghosts in Poe’s eyes too and knows that Poe can see them in his, both the ones they share and the one that belong to each of them alone. Then Poe will lean in a plant a soft kiss on Finn’s lips, wrap an arm around him and hug him close. It doesn’t make the ghosts vanish, but it does make their voices fainter.

On other nights, fear of those who stole his childhood and tried to make him a weapon harry him. Though the First Order is long since destroyed the wounds that they left in him lingers still and on those nights the pain of them can feel like a living thing, itching beneath his skin and the need to act, to move, is overwhelming.

These nights give him little rest, leaving him pacing back and forth, filled with restless energy that nothing can disperse.

He sees Poe’s worried glances on these nights. Notices how his husband’s eyes will linger on him a little too long, the anxiousness in them barely hidden when Finn tells him to go to bed, that he’d stay up ‘just a little bit longer’, words they both know for the lie they are. 

But they also both know that there is nothing Poe can do to help on such nights and that him being up will just add to Finn’s burden. So Poe always dutifully goes to bed, though judging by the dark circles that will be under his eyes the next morning Finn doubts he gets more sleep than him.

And then there are night like tonight. Where the air feels warm and the sky is clear, the stars shining like a thousand tiny, welcoming lanterns against its pitch-black backdrop and Finn feels so light he could fly away if Poe wasn’t holding him so lovingly. Where Finn drowns in honey-sweet kisses and gentle caresses, and where the light in Poe’s eyes as he looks at Finn is just as bright as the light in Finn’s heart.

On those nights when they fall asleep curled around each other, both sated, content and basking in the afterglow of sex, a feeling of love and safety is shared between them. As he drifts off, his head nestled on Poe’s shoulder,

Finn feels at peace with himself and the world.