Tag: shipping

You know what, it’s fine if you don’t want Finn and Rey to end up together and Rey to not have a romantic partner. You want your aro representation, your ace representation, your badass male-female platonic friendship representation. That’s your prerogative, go to town with it and have fun!

What you can’t do is pretend that the relative unpopularity of finnrey as a ship in the fandom as a whole is for the sake of this progressive, girl-power, ace-positive representation. You know what’s an actual, canon representation of a platonic male-female friendship? Mad Max: Fury Road. Max and Furiosa, two strangers and enemies, learning to love and care for each other without a flirtatious glance in sight. Now that was a great, non-romantic friendship between a man and a woman.

And guess what the most popular pairing in the MM fandom is by a large margin? Max x Furiosa. Where’s all the ace-positivity and boys and girls can be friends rah-rah feminism there? Nah, fandom is a highly sexualized space that interprets any intense interaction (at least between people that fit the Aesthetic) as sexual/romantic, and it is not predominantly platonic/ace friendly. No matter what you personally want in terms of representing male-female friendship, it does not explain why Finnrey gets so little attention in the fandom as a whole.

So keep your “but platonic friendship!” comments out of posts about Finnrey and fandom racism. Don’t try to make a discussion about fandom biases about you and how good a person you are. We heard it all before, it doesn’t add up, and we don’t give a shit about your virtue signaling and look-at-me-I’m-so-good-ism.

And why do you get so defensive when Finnrey comes up anyway? No one’s saying you personally need to ship Finnrey. We’re talking about fandom in the aggregate, and don’t have the power to make you ship or stop shipping anything. So why do you care enough to derail posts that are not about you in any way?

I suspect you do it because it stings on some level. I think these discussions make you wonder if you, too, might share fandom’s biases. That these large-scale trends might also explain something about you. I suspect you go out of your way to derail, deflect, and defend because you’re uncomfortable.

That’s good. Be uncomfortable. Question your assumptions. (Which is not the same thing as questioning your self-worth and feelings, lmao. You people who try to conflate all personal discomfort with abuse are ugly.) Explore your discomfort instead of running from it, though by all means take whatever space and time you need–there’s no hurry. That’s how you grow. That’s how you learn.

But for God’s sake, learn on your own time without barging into conversations that don’t concern you. Just… stop derailing Finnrey threads. We’re tired of it.

bellark-e:

“Finnrey,” I say into the mic.

The crowd boos. They somehow twist it to mean something anti-re/ylo and take it as an attack. I begin to walk off, but someone stands up in the back.

“She’s right you know,” they say. I look to the owner of the voice. It’s John Boyega.

finnisfantastic:

heterophobictico:

deadlylittlemiho:

soulmatesfinnrey:

when people say that Finn and Rey are too much like friends to be considered romantic you guys know that you’re supposed to be friends with the person you’re in a relationship with right?

Honestly, I just love seeing a legit friendship between a man and woman on screen… And I just don’t think they’d make a very good couple. They’re more my brotp than anything else.

was there a point to you adding this to a romantic positive finnrey post?

@deadlylittlemiho You could have made your own post. Don’t post those type of comments on Finnrey posts that are obviously meant for the romantic ship

Finnrey is good and beautiful and healthier than 99% of all relationships out there we love a mutually affectionate friendship/romance based on trust and teamwork

Remember when anti Finnrey assholes were saying Finnrey is dead because they were nominated for one of the most iconic Star Wars friendships of all time? What I found kind of heartbreaking was that some of the anti Finnreys were actually confused that Finnreys were so happy. Some were asking in honest confusion how Finnrey shippers thought friendship and romantic relationships could coexist.

And you know what, ship wars aside, I just wanted to give them a hug. I mean, who told them these damaging myths about romance? That your romantic partner should not be someone you like and trust, someone you love to spend time with?

It’s the same thing with those jeerings about Finn being “friendzoned.” I shouldn’t even have to say this, but the friendzone does not exist. It is a sexist construct that says women are worth it only for their bodies and not as full people. If there is a friend zone, it is absolutely the zone where the best romantic and sexual relationships could come from because it is also the zone of people you trust and respect.

So yes, Finnrey is awesome because it is based on friendship, and while a lot of the backlash against it is racist in nature there’s also a lot of sexism in there too. The idea is that a man and a woman in a romantic relationship cannot relate as friends on equal footing, based on mutual love or respect. Rather some sort of interpersonal violence must exist in order for it to be “sexy” and “intriguing.” Finnrey gives the lie to that idea, and that contributes in part to its not being taken seriously, being called too “pure” and “wholesome” and “boy/girl next door” and “romcom” and “not epic enough.”

Also, John Boyega is a Finnrey shipper and that alone should tell you it is the ship for people of intellect, taste, and goodwill.

worth-three-portions:

I love the flood of wonderful fanart Valentine’s Day causes each year (and shall be reblogging all of it! :D) and though I didn’t have time to draw anything fancy I wanted to contribute at least something, so here’s a very humble, very simple pic of all the SW ships I love and actively ship (as in: read fic and meta about and draw fan art of)

(I still think the Rogue One ship names are unneccessarily complicated XDD)

ohqira:

reynaberrieorgana:

reynaberrieorgana:

Hugs were invented to let people know you love them without having to say anything. 

Just an FYI, this is a romantic FinnRey gifset. I know that’s completely obvious to most, but I don’t need crackshippers trying to derail this post by trying to tag it as besties or brotp. Stay in your lane. Thanks.

In any way i was trying to derail your post and i really sorry if the way i tagged the post offend you. I just love Finnrey (maybe not in the same way as you,but i really do) and i just wanted to have more content of them. Im deeply sorry if i offend you in any way,it was never my intention.

We have to deal with almost every shipping post that leaves our immediate circle being tagged or added to with “I don’t ship them but…” “Brotp!” “Friendship goals” and so on. I don’ t care if you don’t see Finnrey as romantic, just do it on your own posts where you’re not reminding us, over and over, that the fandom loves denigrating our ship.

Also “sorry if I offended, it was not my intent” is not an apology. It’s just a sugarcoated way of saying “that’s not what I meant, why are you so sensitive.”

T’Challa and Nakia is the first MCU canon couple I genuinely ship. Like i liked Tony Pepper fine but I wasnt exited about it like I am with this ship they like OTP material I almost never feel that way about canon ships its kinda surreal.

Yes! Same! I love all the BP ships (except the ones involving Shuri and some grown-ass man, wtf is wrong with people…) but T’Challa x Nakia is the best, healthiest canon ship in a long time along with Finnrey, fight me on this.

Do you think certain types of people are attracted to certain types of ships? I know my question sounds obvious so I’ll elaborate: I’ve noticed a lot of people who ship Zutara also ship SasuSaku(Naruto) and either Anidala and/or Reylo. I don’t like any of these pairings but I’ve interacted with several people active in each of their corresponding fandoms and noticed this pattern. I also noticed some patterns when it comes to shippers of non-cishet pairings but nothing as specific as this AFAIK.

lj-writes:

lj-writes:

I have noticed the Zutara/Reylo overlap, too, and I wouldn’t be surprised if people are drawn to these ships for similar reasons–broody and kinda whiny boy (manchild in Kylo’s case) and a strong but supposedly forgiving and gentle female character fans can project on. There are exceptions, of course, such as Zutarans who are anti Reylo. It seems to be a pretty powerful archetype of romance.

@loopy777 OMG NO ONE IS SAFE FROM VILLAIN WOOBIFIERS

@loopy777 talk about projection 😂 otoh it seems an act of desperation too when there were so few “female” robots.

Do you think certain types of people are attracted to certain types of ships? I know my question sounds obvious so I’ll elaborate: I’ve noticed a lot of people who ship Zutara also ship SasuSaku(Naruto) and either Anidala and/or Reylo. I don’t like any of these pairings but I’ve interacted with several people active in each of their corresponding fandoms and noticed this pattern. I also noticed some patterns when it comes to shippers of non-cishet pairings but nothing as specific as this AFAIK.

lj-writes:

I have noticed the Zutara/Reylo overlap, too, and I wouldn’t be surprised if people are drawn to these ships for similar reasons–broody and kinda whiny boy (manchild in Kylo’s case) and a strong but supposedly forgiving and gentle female character fans can project on. There are exceptions, of course, such as Zutarans who are anti Reylo. It seems to be a pretty powerful archetype of romance.

@loopy777 OMG NO ONE IS SAFE FROM VILLAIN WOOBIFIERS