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opisrussianonmain:

themandalorianwolf:

The Episode IX trailer should show Rey and Finn kissing. Just drop the mic, JJ and let everyone know what they should expect.

Agreed. But can you imagine the complete and utter meltdown in fandom if that happens?

In addition to such a development making complete sense, if JJ wants to use controversy to drum up publicity and interest after TLJ this would be the perfect way to do it. It would make #BlackStormtrooper look like a pebble plinked in a puddle. Best of all, it would make the racists show their asses all the way because there is literally nothing objectionable about a FinnRey romantic pairing at all.

So today I got out of my house for the first time in three months to go to a music of Star Wars concert my local symphony orchestra was putting on. I bawled during Leia’s theme (didn’t help that the 21st was her birthday) and they let a bunch of kids in costumes have a little parade while they played the Imperial March. There was this adorable toddler dressed as R2. On the way out though this daughter of a hutt was complaining about it, saying it ruined the experience. I almost fought her.

fettjango:

fettjango:

lj-writes:

lj-writes:

We can’t ruin the sanctity of the Imperial March now can we? That’s a time to reflect solemnly on the glory of the Empire. Seriously what is that chick’s problem. Looks like you went to a great show though, and I’m remembering that “daughter of a Hutt” insult for later 😂 Happy birthday Carrie, I look forward to seeing you on screen one last time 😢

False advertising! Booooo! I can understand why it would be easier that way, since the OT scores are the most played and rehearsed while the scores from the shows and the newer movies are fairly new, but then they should have reflected that in the advertising.

They had a piece from TLJ so you think they’d be able to get something from ten years old TCW and a piece from Rebels. (*cough* Journey into the Star Cluster from season 2. I’ll link you to it if you’d like, it’s gorgeous, mostly violins and cellos. It and Thrawn’s Web, which I can also link you to [chimes, harp and organ, it fits him] are Rebels best original pieces imo. Or mostly original.)

Reblogging again to add

Journey Into the Star Cluster

Thrawn’s Web

Those are beautiful pieces! It would have been awesome to hear them played live. SW fans have heard the OT tracks 100s of times, why not try something (relatively) new?

So today I got out of my house for the first time in three months to go to a music of Star Wars concert my local symphony orchestra was putting on. I bawled during Leia’s theme (didn’t help that the 21st was her birthday) and they let a bunch of kids in costumes have a little parade while they played the Imperial March. There was this adorable toddler dressed as R2. On the way out though this daughter of a hutt was complaining about it, saying it ruined the experience. I almost fought her.

lj-writes:

We can’t ruin the sanctity of the Imperial March now can we? That’s a time to reflect solemnly on the glory of the Empire. Seriously what is that chick’s problem. Looks like you went to a great show though, and I’m remembering that “daughter of a Hutt” insult for later 😂 Happy birthday Carrie, I look forward to seeing you on screen one last time 😢

False advertising! Booooo! I can understand why it would be easier that way, since the OT scores are the most played and rehearsed while the scores from the shows and the newer movies are fairly new, but then they should have reflected that in the advertising.

So I’m far from done with this, but I’ve compiled a page of links to my meta-analytical posts (link). It’s accessible from the top menu in the desktop theme. I also put the page link in the description, but I don’t think it works on mobile. I did a word count and I’ve written over 25,000 words of Finn-centric meta alone, wow. I could write a book about him lmao.

diversehighfantasy:

r/saltierthancrait – What do liberals think of TLJ?

Another ding on r/saltierthancrait.

This thread, which included responses from marginalized fans, was locked because people were posting about TLJ’s sexism and racism – banned topics in what many see as a safe place to be openly critical of the film.

FYI, it’s not.

This is not a new thing for the Star Wars fandom. The longtime forum The Jedi Council has a zero tolerance policy against racist posts (good!) which has led to locked threads because someone called out other posts on the forum as racist (not good).

A TLJ critical sub that doesn’t allow discussions about racism and sexism is not one that allows open criticism. It’s their perogative to do that, but I thought yall should know in case you post there.

Anyway, I wrote a response, but it didn’t post because the thread was locked while I was typing it. Here it is:

“I am a Black woman who blogs a lot about representation and race in media. I’ve been called a SJW many times.

I was very disappointed in TLJ. I’ve tried to see the good in how it handled Finn, but it’s like, you have to make an effort to see any positives. That’s not good representation. I think the movie gave the finger to racial diversity by centering Kylo so much and leaving so much of Finn’s arc on the cutting room floor. Don’t even get me started on RJ calling Kylo and Rey co-protagonists after Rey and Finn were the clear co-protagonists in TFA.

Finn had his own arc that had parallel’s to Rey’s arc, but it’s pretty clear RJ only really cared about the Rey/Kylo arc. Unlike most people, I think the Rey/Kylo scenes were the worst part of the film. I don’t care about Kylo’s entitled tears. I don’t think he’s a bad villain in theory – the angry young man from a good family who sees himself as the victim is relevant for our time. RJ seemed more interested in making him “complex,” but there’s nothing complex (or progressive) about making the white villain “the real protagonist” and the Black co-protag secondary.

I also found Rey’s arc, especially making her up like Bugs Bunny in lipstick in an old Looney Toons cartoon to “woo” Kylo to the light, sexist. (I’m very pro makeup BTW, but considering she just came from a cave in the middle of nowhere that was just insulting.)

It blows my mind tbh that people think most fans who didn’t like TLJ are mad because it’s too diverse and feminist.“

(You’ve probably heard me say all if this before if you’re a follower, but damn if I was going to let it go unposted).

Yeah I gradually stopped going there because I could see most of them were very against the sequel trilogy itself and they were just as white prioritizing as the rest of fandom. It used to be better, for instance my posts about TLJ’s racism received generally favorable responses, but It looks like they’ve gone full Reddit since.

You’re one of the many viewers who have gone from trying to find the silver linings in TLJ but liked it less and less the more they thought about it. I’ve actually gone somewhat in the opposite direction, from thinking it has no redeeming qualities to thinking it has some salvageable elements, but I think in general the opinions have evened out to being very, very low. 

The thing is, even people who like TLJ are seeing its flaws more as time goes on. People who liked TLJ have responded favorably to my rewrite that simply reframes and refocuses the same plot (link). From what I can see, the people who swear it’s a coherent movie already do a hell lot of headcanoning to make it work anyway (link for examples). If even TLJ fans are acknowledging it is flawed and badly framed, and have been adding in stuff that wasn’t in the actual movie so they can like it–then I don’t see TLJ aging well at all despite its proponents’ claims that it will.

Rey Nobody is terrible

themandalorianwolf:

I’m not saying everyone who believes Rey Nobody is terrible, or that it comes from a terrible theme, but in truth Rey Nobody isn’t just confusing and unoriginal, it’s also used to erase Finn’s role in the movies, among other characters from the other trilogies.

The most common argument for Rey Nobody isn’t even about what makes sense, it’s about a theme. The theme that a hero, Rey, can come from nowhere and be the Jedi protagonist. People say it’s great that to have other Jedi than the Skywalkers in the movies as the protagonist, even better that she’s a woman.

Now here’s where the lie comes in.

The PT had a mess load of other Jedi than Anakin. In fact, Anakin wasn’t even a Jedi till the 2nd movie of the PT, little moptop didn’t even have a lightsaber. The OT had Obi-Wan. In fact most commonly I see people show a picture of the Skywalkers to prove their point, but it’s always misleading since forgetting Han and Padme, weren’t Jedi or Skywalkers, they just married into the family. Leia rejected the name and never became a Jedi in the new canon (Fuck you Disney/Lucasfilm), so that leaves only Luke and Anakin. Also, put into perspective that Rey is pretty much a genderbent Anakin and Luke mashed together, and she even has the same journey as Luke did in the OT, beat for beat. And lets face it, Daisy Ridley also looks just like a young Mark Hamil and

Natalie

Portman. Rey as a nobody, isn’t original or refreshing. It’s just the same thing…but with the last name missing.

We’ve had hero Jedi from nowhere: Luke, Ezra, Ahoksa, Anakin himself. Hell Obi-Wan struggled to even become a Jedi and had to train twice as hard to even become a the Master he became. 

The themes of Rey being a nobody who goes on to become a hero always have one recurring similarity, they never see Finn as the other protagonist of the ST and think giving him the force is a bad idea and would “ruin” his story or the movie.

In fact, in the first official trailer for TFA, one of the most racist comments under the video was “Great, they gave the nig** a lightsaber. This movie is ruined”. It was even so hard to believe that there could possibly be a black stormtrooper, that these people actually acknowledged the prequels just to hate on Finn.

People wanted Rey to be a Nobody for the story because they didn’t want to or couldn’t even think that the force wielding hero from nowhere could be Finn, so they latched onto it.

And not only was Rey Nobody used for the racists, it was also used by the sexists who thought that Rey didn’t deserve or earn right to be a Skywalker and so Kylo Ren had to be the Skywalker of the ST. Yeah, there were other people who wanted Rey not to be a Skywalker cause they thought Rey and Kylo should hook up, but those people aren’t valid to begin with.

I understand that Rey Nobody to some people means just that anyone can be special, regardless of where they come from, but that isn’t Rey. TLJ tells us that Rey is a nobody who is special and doesn’t need any training or to earn anything because where there is darkness, there has to be light, so the light made Rey stronger than anyone and she downloaded Kylo’s powers like a torrent. No struggle, no strife, and even after her mentor dies, her comrades are reduced to less than a dozen people, learned that her parents are nobodies, Rey still shows no signs of character growth and is the same as was in her introduction. 

People say they want Rey to be a nobody because it makes her relatable…It doesn’t and it didn’t. It just made her an OP character that has no flaws and doesn’t struggle, and gave every sexist and racist argument against Finn and Rey, a louder voice.

A theme shouldn’t trump a well written, with compelling characters and a cohesive plot. Giving Finn the force, wouldn’t have ruined anything, connecting Rey to the Skywalkers, wouldn’t have been bad writing. But ya know what would ruin the story? What would be bad writing that screams a forced agenda? Rey being nobody.

So, no I don’t think Rey Nobody is a good idea, and I will never think it’s a good idea. Regardless of why some people like Rey Nobody, the majority uses it to erase Finn as the protagonist or give the protagonist slot to Kylo, and IMO, fuck that noise.

I hope Rey is a Skywalker in IX. I hope Finn picks up a lightsaber in IX. Why? Cause I’m tired of seeing Rey and Finn get undercut time and time again. The worst part of TFA is the batch switch with Finn and the mystery arc with Rey. The movie would have been ten folds better if they just revealed Rey as a child who was taken from the Skywalker family and just confirmed Finn had the force. And I’m sticking to that. Hopefully IX fixes that.

I’ve compared Rey to Korra from Avatar: The Legend of Korra in that both characters are not allowed to develop their supernatural powers from hard work, but rather because some dude physically and mentally violated her. I saw a post yesterday that I’m kicking myself for not reblogging because I can’t find it now, that one way to fix Rey’s plot is by her realizing that her powers are tainted from the source and she has to start again the right way. It would also tie into my meta about a new order of Force users (link) and all the main crew training in the Force with Rey (link).

Barring a development like the above that shows the Force actually does belong to everyone and not just specially chosen white people, yeah, fuck Rey Random. So far it has been handled terribly in a way that mangles the lore and makes any possible theme incoherent while erasing Finn. If it’s just going to be a validation of the worst of Star Wars fandom, that only certain superhumans with inborn powers matter, then I don’t want it.