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Idea for an Alternate Sequel Trilogy comic book. When Mandalore Fett decides to help the New Republic, he decides it’s time to bring the band back together. All of the old bounty hunters are retired, and have embodied different retired stereotypes. IG-88 is a hoarder. Bossk is a bingo enthusiast. Dengar is trying to stay cool, but also keeps adopting baby animals (a reek in his arms). And 4-LOM and Zuckuss are the couple that got married late in life. In the movie, only their ships would show up, but in the comics, Boba would be getting them in for “One Last Job.” (Moth)

When TFA came out my dad wasn’t impressed with the attractiveness of the cast. He thought Daisy was “alright” but John was “funny looking” (I guess Finn does make some weird faces sometimes?) and Kylo Ren looked like a zitty teenager with a big potato nose (had to agree with him there.) But hilariously, he said the best-looking person in the movie was probably Harrison Ford.

brotherskywalker:

thelastjedicritical:

lj-writes:

Yeah John is an actor with awesome comic chops and I think a lot of people used that as an excuse to pass him off as comic relief. He has plenty of serious scenes, though, where his heartthrob handsomeness comes into full relief. I know intellectually Daisy is a beautiful young woman but on a personal level she fills me with meh. Adam… omg 😂 I don’t think he’s a conventionally handsome guy, but I can see something endearingly coltish and and awkward in him. I wonder if that’s one reason people perceive his character as much younger? Harrison did look good lol.

I’ve always found John beautiful even before I saw him in TFA. When I first saw Daisy I found her kind of weird looking, I thought her forehead was just giant, now I find her really pretty though. When I first saw Adam I kid you not I thought “what the fuck is wrong with this guy’s face???” and I know I’ll get beaten up for this. 😂😂

I still contend that Kylo acts and looks like Napoleon Dynamite, and I thought that was the whole point. He was this super awkward, fairly unattractive incel. I remember seen some Reyno pic set where Kylo takes off his helmet and they’ve captioned Rey’s reaction as, “Oh no, he’s hot!” and it blows my mind, because my reaction to that reveal was, “Oh no, he’s a mouthbreather!”

I get that beauty is subjective, and it doesn’t bother or surprise me that some people find Adam Driver attractive. There’s someone for everyone, and it’s not like he’s hideous… but to me he’s far from conventionally attractive, and it baffles me that so many people apparently think he’s really good looking.

Rey canonically did not think he was hot, in the novelization she thought he was ordinary like the young scavenging human men she had seen on Jakku.

We have Word of God from Pablo Hidalgo that the FO runs on the power of incel so that comparison is probably spot on 😂

Some leaders of the Tatooine alliance. I don’t have any names, but some characteristics. The Hutt helped the locals take over his family’s empire on the planet. Hutts still live on Tatooine, but they aren’t in dominant power. They were kind of ostracized from the family due to being born with multiple disabilities, and they thus know what it’s like to be treated as lesser than unlike most hutts. This hutt’s not evil, but still holds a typical hutt’s snobbishness, even if only as an act. Despite that, their legitimate businesspersonhood allows Tatooine to stay free from the crime Rings it used to house.

The Tusken Swordsman and his Sniper daughter. They represent a desert dwelling clan, and are talented hunters and warriors. The father is a compassionate leader, though overly protective of his daughter. The daughter is more of a hardened warrior type, but still likes to express her femininity on rare occasions of peace or victory.

The Jawa is a tech guru, who has helped bring her band into the post-Imperial world. The sandcrawlers that are used in the Battle of Tatooine are her designs, and the Jawas of her band fit more of the Silicon Valley stereotype instead of being traditional merchants. Her daughter is the Jawa that owned the toy Finn carries on his belt. (Moth)

disneybrony:

At Walmart last night and found these adorable cards!! And not a single one with Kylo (;

These all look like cute, upbeat cards, and it looks like Kylo would be distinctly out of place here. Almost like he’s not a hero or something! Bonus points for Finn and Rey being directly associated with the Millenium Falcon, reylow bellyaching to the contrary 😂

reyl0s: “Not to be controversial but if your love interest has no other personality than being ~nice~ don’t be surprised if people would rather see your protagonist end up with the ~dangerous~ but far more interesting and conflicted character” “YA authors hate kylo because they wish they had written their asshole love interests just half as well”

diversehighfantasy:

lj-writes:

They continue to be awful lol.

That shit is so laughable, because Kylo Ren is basic as hell – an angry young white male who acts like an incel terrorist, what’s so fascinating about that? He’s a relevant villain – the Neo-Nazi without a clue, the mass shooter from a good family – no doubt about that, but good lord, the way fans aggressively equate white “attractiveness” with innate goodness is terrifying. 

Finn escaped from a life as an unwilling soldier asked to kill for a genocidal regime, then rose up to become a prominent rebel. So ~boring~, so basic ~nice guy~. 

Hey, at least they acknowledge that Finn is Rey’s love interest. If that first sentence was about Finn, that is, and I suspect it was. Reylows can’t seem to decide whether Finnrey was too obviously telegraphed as romantic or was not shown as romantic at all.

The truly sad thing is, Finn spending TLJ in a coma could actually have been brilliant–but ONLY IF it the story had taken care to involve and center him. Obviously not in the way RJ described it in his tasteless joke, with Finn being inert and unimportant while only getting occasional cuts of him stirring in his sleep. That’s not just bad, that’s positively malicious (as much of the movie was tbh). But if the plot had involved Finn heavily, and the coma had been used as an actual opportunity to explore his story and the setting? In that case it would have been better than what we got in TLJ.

Consider: Finn is so seriously injured that he doesn’t wake for most of the movie’s runtime, and due to the haphazard circumstances of the evacuation the Resistance were not able to bring all the necessary equipment and medicine. On top of that they are under constant bombardment and the infirmary is flooded with patients, further complicating his recovery. This would emphasize the gravity of what Kylo Ren did to Finn while showing that the First Order is a direct threat to Finn as well as the Resistance as a whole.

Snoke berates Kylo not only for losing to Rey and being so conflicted over murdering Han Solo, but also for failing to kill Finn. Hux and Snoke are both extremely threatened by Finn’s defection, and Phasma reports unrest in the ranks for which she executed and reconditioned a number of troopers. Snoke makes it clear that he is chasing the Resistance’s main fleet so doggedly in large part because he wants to make sure Finn is dead, or better yet, to drag him before the assembled troopers and make an example of him. This further establishes the FO’s evil and heightens the sense of suspense because Finn is a character that the audience actually cares about, not a nameless extra like many of the Resistance members we saw die on screen.

Rey is worried about Finn and keeps trying to contact the Resistance. When the Force Skype happens she is angry with Kylo over Finn’s injury as well as Han’s murder. Kylo manipulates her in large part by telling her about the Resistance’s plight and the personal danger to Finn–and he insinuates, or lets her believe, that he would let the Resistance go and spare Finn’s life.

We continue the bond between Finn and Poe by having Poe go on the Canto Bight mission (or some better mission that makes more sense, getting help from Lando?), and Rose going with him because she is deeply affected by Finn’s heroism.

Most crucially, however, Finn’s coma is not just about him lying there but is an exploration of his past and trauma, even his connection with the Force. We see some of the Before the Awakening materials where he is an elite cadet whose only flaw is too much empathy. We get to see his relationship with a living Slip, his other squadmates, and Phasma. (Give Phasma more to do, you cowards.) This would parallel and contrast the exploration of Kylo’s past, continuing the foil relationship. Finn was already a cadet when Kylo Ren formally joined the FO, and this
intersection in their stories would have been interesting to explore.

We see glimpses of Finn’s traumatic kidnapping as a child, something that distresses him so much that it registers on the medical monitors. Finn also relives the massacre of Hosnia and many other things he wasn’t physically present for, including present events, though he is only able to affect things in small snatches such as shouting a warning to Poe at a crucial moment which Poe actually hears.

Finally, on Crait, Finn’s Force projection grows strong enough that he helps provide the crucial clue for getting out of the mines, and he leads Rey to the back entrance. Even Chewie sees him by this point and roars out a greeting. She is overjoyed at the connection with Finn and is happy and confident when she lifts the rocks, in direct contrast to her tension and sadness when talking to Kylo.

Finn finally wakes, Sleeping Beauty style, on the Millennium Falcon with Rey by his side and stroking his hand. They have a joyful reunion and everyone on board celebrates this flash of hope among the darkness, making the hopeful ending seem actually deserved.

Lesson: You can keep a character in a coma for a whole movie and still advance his story as long as you give half a shit about him. It’s telling that RJ’s treatment of Finn was so reluctant and half-assed that it was fully possible to tell a better story based on a throwaway joke of an idea.

my brother thinks it would have been hilarious in the middle of the clone wars if they’d just straight up killed anakin off and kept going. the fans would be confused and be like “i guess this show is an au?” but lucasfilm would be like “no it’s canon this takes place before revenge of the sith” and refused to explain how that worked and there would be absolutely no continuity the clone wars would just be a frickin train wreck and it’d just steamroll right through without any clues as to how it lined up with rots or the original trilogy but somehow being 100% canon anyway while the fans went nuts

and now i think i know why he likes the last jedi

jewishcomeradebot:

Why a resistance? Why The Resistance?

I’ve seen plenty of people ask what they’re supposed to be resisting, with a multitude of differing answers being provided, but never this. Never, why a resistance?

And people seem to forget, or just never having know, what a resistance is. Why it is created.

Resistances aren’t created to win wars or defeat enemies, they’re made to make it as costly as possible for the enemy to operate in a given territory. They might be able to get the enemy to pull out of a given territory if operation there becomes too costly for them, but they can’t defeat them. That’s now how they work or what they’re meant for.

Now look at The Resistance in TFA, when it actually is a resistance. What does it have?

A dozen or so starfighters, half of which are destroyed in the assault on Starkiller Base. The capital ships aren’t seen until TLJ and I very much doubt JJ ever intended for The Resistance to have those. I mean, Leia assaults Starkiller Base with just that dozen of starfighters. Given the gravity of the situation that makes no sense if she had those capital ships.

Then they have maybe a handful of troop transports/cargo ships. And the crew for them, along with some ground staff, technical staff and medical personnel among them.

But. That. Is. It. That’s all The Resistance has.

No people ask how Leia intended to win against the First Order with this. And also what she believed Luke would be able to do.

But she never intended to win anything with The Resistance. She intended to throw as many hydrospanners in the First Order machinery as she could, make it as difficult for them to operate, postponing the time where they would attack the Republic. All the while trying to wake up the Senate and the general public to the danger they presented.

And I think, to have a fallback group if she couldn’t and the First Order did attack successfully. Then she had a good start on a guerrilla group. But her main plan was never a war against the First Order, it was in a word, resistance.

So what about Luke? I very much doubt she intended him to take on the First Order, or even Snoke and the Knights of Ren head on. He was yet one more spanner she could throw into the First Order machinery.

But since this was JJ’s set up, then he might always have intended for it to turn into a guerrillas vs large organized military.

So TLJ may have changed nothing, done absolutely nothing that affected the plot in anyway. Except kill off Snoke – but we never learned his abilities as military commander and Hux seemed to shoulder that part anyway – and kill off Luke Skywalker too – but given the existence of Force ghosts that might not even be that big a change. Apart from JJ not having to worry about how to prevent Luke from overshadowing the heroic leads.

It’s depressing how little TLJ actually did in terms of moving the story forward. I guess something like 80% of the Resistance is wiped out and that’s supposed to be a devastating blow, but there’s no narrative consequence or impact from that. Leia explicitly hands the torch to the guy who the narrative blames for this disaster. We don’t see anyone except Rose early on grieving or traumatized by losing their friends and comrades. The ending has a completely undeserved and, under the circumstances, disturbing upbeat vibe despite all this loss of life. The Resistance were always underdog fighters, and now they’re just even more underdog fighters without the narrative or emotional consequences to show for it. It’s just yet another way in which TLJ was a waste of a middle installation.