Tag: wtf

ReyL* fandom gives be brutal flashbacks to the whole TJL/C thing that swept j0hnl0ck fandom. Even they made every single promo, interview, word, stray strand in a frame as clue or foreshadowing ship being canon. As a fellow johnl0cker I was embarassed and frightened to even say anything against that ship becoming canon, not without being called names or being mocked by the believers, it was just horrid. When it didn’t happen their blacklash was ugly, saying they’d better ideas than show writers!

leg-grestrade:

lj-writes:

@bbcumbercutey replied:

lj-writes:

Noah Fence but the way I hear the show went (I dropped it at the pilot) having better ideas than the writers seems like a low bar. That’s what fanfiction is for, though, right? I get wanting a ship to be canon–and I’m a lot more sympathetic to the ship you mention than to reelo–but blowing every little “clue” out of proportion and, worse, mocking people for disagreeing, that’s just being a conspiracy-theory hawking asshole.

I’m also reminded of the worst behaviors of zootarians from the ATLA fandom. This was another great ship that had a dedicated group of asshole shippers who insisted it HAD to be canon, that it was ALREADY canon, and, after the show ended, that it was ACTUALLY canon and they were ROBBED. To this day, almost a decade after the show ended and after we’ve had sequels featuring the actual main ship’s children and grandchildren, this contingent spreads conspiracy theories about a secret fourth season, the head writer being strongarmed by the producers and so forth.

It gives me all sorts of schadenfreude that there’s a significant overlap between disappointed Zitarians and reynos. So much for their infallible powers of analysis.

It poped in my tumblr app, so I hope you don’t mind If I add. With BBC Sherlock both writers admitted that they put those gay references

as jokes

cause they thought it was funny. So it’s fair to discuss the

queerbaiting. Also the general writing just went completely down the loo with last season, ratings dropped, many critics trashed it and the writers began to blame press, fans and even went into denial that ratings dropped. So it’s a bit different story.

It’s fine, I tried to disguise the spellings but I see the dark Tumblr magic is at work again. I don’t mean to imply the writers’ behavior in regards to JohnLock was good, except maybe with being clear (in vain, it turns out) that it was not happening. I only know of the whole mess from hearsay and a really long video which I didn’t fully watch, and according to those sources the show actually mocks the fans for trying to read some deeper meaning into it, for essentially trying to fix the writers’ mistakes. So I don’t expect much from the creative team, but treating gay references as a joke is a whole new low.

I am sympathetic to the ship itself as I said, it’s just the lengths some fans went to esp. in regards to mocking and being rude to other fans that I disagree with. The rational thing to do would have been to recognize the show, especially in later seasons, for the turd it was and drop it, or at least accept the pairing was not coming to pass and write copious amounts of fanfic. There was never any call for whipping up false hope and snapping at other fans.

I was in BBC Sherlock from the start. TJLC scuttled the fandom. A few BNFs literally had their minions stalk, harrass and in some cases, racially taunt people who had the nerve to not believe in the magic of TJLC. Reylo fandom is very much like it.

OH GOD WHY IS FANDOM SO HORRIBLE WHY

artoo:

imception:

the only reason i’m still fucking with star wars is the anticipation of watching these people crying on 16 dec

i’m going to fucking die 

Did they like… forget that BB-8 is Poe’s droid? Or that Poe actually wears an orange flight suit? This would be more a clue for darkpilot than reylo if anything. But the very idea that it’s a clue for anything arghdfljehgds.

Also they’ll find a way to justify themselves after December. They’re already using the term “platonic Reylo” by which standard Finnrey is already canon many times over.

porgsitter:

So R/eylos determine which celebrity is a R/eylo depending on whether they show interest in the dynamic between Rey and Kylo? *looks at herself who is in fact interested in that but in the sense of them being RELATED and enemies* NOPE, I am not a R/eylo!

You’re a PLATONIC reylo! Because reylo evidently encompasses platonic relationships now, according to shippers. This means, of course, as a Rey Solo theorist I am also a reylo (platonic). 😄

pinkrangerv:

diversehighfantasy:

pinkrangerv:

diversehighfantasy:

“Kylo should be a hero the forgotten children can look up to” is honestly a vile thing to say when Finn exists as an actual hero.

His body language, actions, and the fact that this is fucking Star Wars indicate he has probably been brainwashed. So was Finn. Finn escaped. Some people can.

SOME PEOPLE CANNOT ESCAPE ABUSE, ESPECIALLY CHILDREN, AND THEY NEED TO SEE SOMEONE LIKE THEM EVENTUALLY GETTING OUT OR FREE.

Kylo becoming a hero is NOT going to negate Finn’s heroism. People do NOT just like Kylo because they’re racist against Finn, or they’re woobifying–Kylo’s storyline appeals to a set of people that Finn’s cannot, in a deep-set way. The kid who’s had a teacher call CPS and nothing happened, or the young adult who can’t get a job because they can’t leave the house or drive, or the teenager who doesn’t know how to fight back–they need to see their own story too.

You are missing the point.

Black children are systemically forgotten, systemically disadvantaged, and systemically abused. When people go on about how Kylo should be the hero to represent the forgotten children, they’re forgetting about Black children, they’re forgetting about Finn.

Finn was in an abusive situation too for his entire life. Why does him getting out somehow not count? Why would you think Kylo would have more impact on marginalized, abused kids? That makes no sense to me. ALL of your examples – CPS failure, can’t get a job, can’t fight back – apply to Black kids, and not a lot of people outside the Black community care. Nonblack kids, especially white kids, have many more resources and much more representation. It’s not like there are no damaged/sympathetic white characters out there.

I stand by it. Using marginalized, abused kids as a reason Kylo Ren needs to come out on top is vile. Not least of all because Finn’s story is much more uncommon and would have far more impact on marginalized kids when you consider that Black kids exist.

Could you try reading my post before shooting your mouth off? Like, at all? Because AS I SAID, Finn DOES represent SOME abuse survivors. Just not ALL. I don’t know why the fuck you think that means it ‘doesn’t count’ or ‘not a lot of people outside the Black community care about Black child abuse survivors’, because while I’m sure you have personal reasons to feel that way, Finn is the most celebrated character to come out of that movie, EVEN SURPASSING RAY WHO WAS THE LUKE ANALOGY.

Ben does not negate Finn. Finn does not negate Ben. Neither of them negate Ray. ALL THREE reach out to different survivors, and they are ALL important. I just don’t hold with shitting on one because, to be frank, he’s white.

But like “Ben” wasn’t forgotten? In fact we have Han and Leia still trying to get him back, keeping hope alive that he’s still redeemable? We watch Han give his LIFE trying to get his son back, so calling him forgotten is just factually inaccurate.

Also imagine hearing that a fascist murderer doesn’t represent forgotten children and thinking he’s somehow being shat on, or that he’s a victim of reverse racism lmaooooo