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Rose called Finn a selfish traitor because if he had taken one of the escape pods then there wouldn’t have been enough for the ship to evacuate

stormscavenger:

First off, Holdo wasn’t telling anyone her plan. So I don’t think even Rose would know why she needed to save the escape pods in the first place. If Rose knew, then there’d be no need for the pointless mission they went on. 

Second, we know that she knows that this guy is Finn because she nutted over him creepily for two minutes. She knows what he’s been through and what he’s done for the Resistance, and THAT’S how she reacts to him leaving?

Is there a reason she couldn’t explain to him why taking the escape pod would be a bad idea? No, she resorts to tasing him unconscious and blasting him against the wall. 

Fun Fact #1: There will NEVER be a good reason to call Finn a selfish traitor in canon EVER, so jot that down.

Fun Fact #2: that will ALWAYS bother me regardless of whatever bullshit excuse anyone gives, so please don’t try to justify it.

Another disturbing thought: The only valid reason in that situation for Rose to violently incapacitate Finn would have been if he was a physical threat, since if he backed peacefully away from the pods and his attempted departure became a disciplinary issue (it would not have been, since he was not Resistance), it wasn’t like he could escape justice on a spaceship.

But Finn did not show the slightest inclination of being violent. ROSE was the one who was waving a weapon in his face. Rose, in other words, did not have the slightest pretext of justification OTHER THAN TRYING TO CLAIM FINN WAS A THREAT TO HER.

This is what makes the scene all the more upsetting, because, on a narrative level, Rose’s getting away with assaulting Finn depends on attributing to a Black man an aggressive intent he did not have. It’s racist bullshit that posits a Black person as the aggressor in every encounter.

jedi-steel:

forcedintostarwars:

Something that I really appreciate about The Clone Wars is that they make Anakin a likable, loving, genuinely good person while reaffirming and enhancing his more negative qualities. For example the show makes it clear that Anakin is a good person, but a selfish one. 

In the arc where Ahsoka get’s kidnapped and hunted by lizard people we see this very subtle selfish quality of Anakin’s. When Ahsoka comes home from her traumatizing ordeal what is the very first thing that Anakin does? He makes things about himself. He makes things about his failure to protect her, his  concern, his worry, his fear for her, his own shortcomings. He is obviously coming from a place of genuine love and concern for Ahsoka, but it’s still about him. There’s nothing evil about that kind of selfishness, seeing a situation from your own point of view doesn’t mean you don’t care, anyone who says that they don’t make things about themselves is almost definitely a liar but you can’t deny it. In that moment Ahsoka had to comfort Anakin. That moment is beautiful and poignant regarding their bond and their friendship, but it’s also very telling if you look at it through a slightly more cynical lens.

It reminds me of in AOTC when Anakin kneeled at his mother’s grave and talked about himself and his feelings of inadequacy rather than his mother herself. Or in ROTS when Anakin was concerned for Padme’s life and committed to saving it in a way he knew that she wouldn’t approve of. When he pledges himself to Palpatine he doesn’t say he wants to save her life because she deserves to love or anything that has to do with her. It’s because he couldn’t live without her, he needs her, he loves her, she can’t leave him because he couldn’t take that. It’s about him. 

Anakin’s feelings of selfishness don’t mean that he doesn’t actually love or care about these people, his possessive nature and selfishness actually come from his love for these people. He just can’t separate the way he feels about these people from the individuals themselves. He always makes it about himself and his needs and desires, not theirs. It’s possible that the first person that Anakin really loved in a nonselfish way was Luke by the end of ROTJ.

I don’t know that I’m making sense here but this topic fascinates me.

What an excellent analysis that I 100% agree with. I used to know people who loved Anakin because they believed he was completely selfless, and I… disagreed with that interpretation because it was incomplete. (Also because they had a habit of woobifying Anakin to the point of being an apologist. Like, ugh.) He fell to the Darkside because he was selfless to the point of utter selfishness. Everything was about him, about possessing, about owning, about being responsible for. That was no doubt rooted from his childhood as a slave when his destiny, his very life, didn’t even belong to him, and then again from his upbringing with the Jedi when he was told his life still didn’t belong to him but in service to the Force, the galaxy, and he wasn’t allowed to love or own… basically the dude has never learned how to separate his own intense feelings from others, and it was a toxic combination. 

Someone else has made independent, autonomous choices that put them into dangers? Oh no, Anakin failed to protect them! That’s what this is about, not the trauma that they’ve now endured! Visions of Padme dying in childbirth? That’s okay, he’ll fix it by teaming up with a Sith Lord and literally slaughtering innocent children! Padme, why are you crying? I fixed the problem, I have enough power to save you now!

I like analyses like this because it reminds me of why I like Anakin as a character – because he’s selfish, and his downfall is his own, and at the end of the day it’s his own choices, his own decisions, that lead to it. Taking that away from him makes him less of a complex figure, in my opinion.

curiousartemis:

It’s funny how perspective differs from individual to individual. 

Just read an article wherein the author (a man, probably straight) claimed that “everyone is in love with Rey.” I legit read it twice and wondered if that was a typo. Cause it’s pretty obvious that everyone is in love with Finn?? Like, way obvious. He gets a kiss from Rose, jealous looks and a warm fuzzy hug from Rey, and when Poe hears he’s awake and walking around naked he practically cartwheels out of his x-wing.

Just HOW do you come away from that thinking everyone is in love with REY? Yeah, Finn, obviously, has a thing for her. And….? AND….? I legit don’t know who else.