Casual SW fan here. Why was Rey Kenobi such a hated theory? I have no horse in this race so I’m just curious.

applepiewithextrafreedom:

lj-writes:

Leaving aside the fact that it was like catnip to a Certain Group of Fans That Shall Not Be Named, I disliked its lack of emotional resonance. Obi-Wan Kenobi died over 30 years ago in story time by this point in the franchise and, more importantly, he wasn’t important enough in TFA enough for him as Rey’s grandfather to be emotionally satisfying. Her parents would have to be whole new characters or characters from The Clone Wars unfamiliar to the general moviegoing audience, and introducing them would have taken screen time. Maybe @applepiewithextrafreedom could provide more insight, since their comment on hating Reynobi is what I reblogged.

@lj-writes  for your Anon.

it served no purpose to the story in any way shape or form. we love him but it makes no fucking sense and is actually detrimental to obi-wans character. this is a man who watched his adoptive brother get torn apart by the internal conflict between the dark side and the light and you mean to argue that shortly after watching someone who he loved fall the way he did he was going to risk getting attached to someone. did he not learn anything from watching anakin die?

look, it makes sense for luke because luke wasnt there. luke didnt see anakin when he was burning up on mustafar so to luke the most important thing was his friends and thats when he proved that attachments dont have to be a death sentence. but this was LUKE. up until anakin was redeemed by luke obi-wan didnt believe it was possible. that was why he was so afraid for luke when luke tells him hes going to abandon his training and go to bespin to save han and leia.  “i dont want to lose you to the emperor like i lost your father”. it doesnt make any sense if obi-wan is secretly hiding a wife and child somewhere. obi-wan is an old school jedi. hes very by the book kind of guy. its completely unlike him and i would hate to see obi-wan throw the book out the window. thats not who he is, he’s not like anakin, and thats why i like him.

back to the pointlessness of such a reveal. how does that affect rey?

answer: it doesnt. rey doesnt care that her parent is the child of some jedi who died 34 years ago. its not like obi-wan is anakin. obi-wan was a great jedi but he wasnt exceptionally powerful or anything like that. he was pretty average. what made obi-wan a good jedi were his values. he was very by the book and followed the rules but if he didnt feel comfortable doing something he felt was immoral he would speak up and he wielded his power responsibly. this is why he was a great jedi. not because he has raw power like anakin. anakin had raw power and he was the worst jedi. he single handedly destroyed the jedi order. so yeah it affects rey in NO way that obi-wan is her relative. its pure fan service and requires the movies to do too much leg work like introducing the actual parents as well as telling us who obi-wans wife was. saying hey she appeared in some TV show the general audience hasnt seen isnt going to work. when the audience walks into the movie theater they arent going to hand them a CLIFFNOTES guide to the expanded universe so you can understand who the fuck Satine was. the reason why reysky matters is because shes actually meeting luke (A SKYWALKER) and she was attacked by his nephew (A SKYWALKER) who worships his dead grandfather (A SKYWALKER) and she is now doing his sister’s bidding (A SKYWALKER). this family is taking over her life. why should some random girl work to fix this family’s issues? because shes not random. shes one of them. they are her family.

one of the more minor reasons i hated it was because a lot (not all) reylos completely latched onto this theory as an excuse to deny reysky because it would be incest for rey and kylo to be related. they completely ruined this theory for a lot of people.

finnobliterateshux:

I am, on the daily, absolutely struck by the bright shining beacon of wholesome goodness and love that is John Boyega. Hearing people who work with him talk about his supportive, loving nature warms my whole entire heart. Seeing women, especially Kelly Marie Tran, being supported and comforted by him on set and seeing the positive effect that has on their lives touches me so deeply. Watching him be an outspoken, charismatic proponent of equality and diversity in media is inspiring. I just. I really love him, you guys. I can’t wait to watch his career launch and give him everything he deserves.

cryptobotanical:

Sometimes I still think about that post I saw going around a while ago that was a story about a woman in ancient Greece who was supposed to be sentenced to death, but during her trial she showed her boobs to the court and they decided to let her live because her boobs were so perfect, and then it was 400,000+ notes of people ranting and going on essays about how that was the most feminist and female empowering thing they’d ever heard and how this is proof of how powerful and empowered women are, and I still get really pissed off about that. Like, the idea that deciding a woman’s life is only worthwhile because she was conventionally attractive according to the beauty standards of the time and because she appealed to male sexuality was what made her life worth keeping, and if she wasn’t conventionally attractive and if she didn’t appeal to male sexuality (because of course the court deciding her fate was all male so it was all men who decided she was only allowed to live because she had nice boobs) like, she would have died if she didn’t perfectly fit society’s beauty and body image standards, but her life was only considered worth saving because of how appealing she was and how well she fit beauty standards, yet there were 400,000+ notes of people ranting about how incredibly feminist and empowering that was, and honestly that’s such a perfect summary of what’s wrong with modern feminism