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jewishcomeradebot:

Me going off on twitter about how much I hate the “Finn is too well adjusted to be traumatized” shit.

Transcript:

God I hate the “too well adjusted to be traumatized/an abuse survivor” argument. Apart from the clear racist bias there I hate it because it dismisses any survivor who’s coping mechanisms aren’t overtly destructive or self-destructive.

Just because Finn’s coping mechanisms doesn’t involve throwing tantrums, assaulting or screaming at people, doesn’t mean he doesn’t display clear coping with trauma, or that he isn’t traumatized by what the FO did to him or that he grew up in a very abusive environment.

For one thing he’s clearly compartmentalizing the hell out of his life and he also seems to use goal orientation as a coping strategy to avoid dealing too much with the chaos that is inside of him. But that chaos and his emotions does overflow at times.

But then he’s right back to coping again. Every time one of his goals are achieved he tries to pick up a new one. It is so damn obvious. And yes it helps move him (and the plot) along, but that’s because he is in action oriented situations so far.

But that doesn’t mean it isn’t coping mechanisms and that these might become bad in the long term. It could be interested to see what Finn ‘sans goal’ for a lengthy period would do to deal. We’ve already seen him when his compartments bled and how that makes him panic.

But non-destructive coping mechanisms – self or otherwise – doesn’t mean “well adjusted”, doesn’t mean “not traumatized” or “less traumatized”. It just means “the way this person copes fits their current situation, but that doesn’t minimize the pain and trauma they’ve suffered”

I could easily have continued here because Finn displays far more than just this. But I felt my twitter novel was long enough and I hate the character limit on that platform.

So yeah, apart for the obvious racist bias in the argument in displaying a complete lack of ability to emphasize with a Black man’s pain, people who do this have also just dismissed every single “good survivor” out there who’s coping mechanisms aren’t openly maladjusted.

But to reiterate. Coping in ways that aren’t overtly damaging to self or others doesn’t mean a person was less abused or is less suffering/was less harmed/is less in pain from what they were put through. It just means that they’ve found coping strategies that aren’t openly harmful to others and not immediately harmful to themselves either.

Though Finn’s methods of compartmentalizing and picking goals to avoid dealing with his emotional chaos and pain can easily long term come back to bite him in the ass and become maladjusted and harmful. But for the time being they have helped him along rather than hindered him.

And you know, that’s what coping evolves to do. Help you in a situation where everything is fucked up.

Alan Dean Foster – writer of TFA novelisation – on Finn and Rey

stormscavenger:

nabyss:

themandalorianwolf:

stormscavenger:

Did you have a favourite character to write in the new ‘Star Wars’ generation of characters?

Alan Dean Foster: There is always a favourite. Obi-Wan Kenobi is that one, but I really like Rey. I think she is a good central character, I think I may write her differently in some ways, but any writer would probably say that, otherwise you’d just have clones of the original writer. She is interesting and resourceful and hopefully her background will be developed in different ways and in more detail. I would have gone a different way with her in the recent film, but a lot of people would say that. 

I also like the character of Finn, he is very under developed and there is an enormous amount of potential there for his character. His character harks back to the people in the German army fighting who disagreed with what was going on, but I think there is a lot of internal conflict there that needs to be explored other than just kind of using him, as you will, occasional comic relief and he seems to be a filler right now. We don’t know what he is thinking or what is going on and he just exists to advance the plot at certain points. I think he is a much more interesting character than that.

Wow, even Alan disagrees with how they’ve been treated lately. Isn’t that something?

He was writing for them both. It’s probably disappointing to see Finn get sidelined and Rey be reduced to someone who torrents her abilities.

Interesting if even the writers didn’t like TLJ. Wasn’t John Williams also not fond of TLJ?

He stated at least once that he doesn’t believe TLJ’s treatment of Rey’s backstory is the real deal. What’s worth noting is that after TFA he stated that he believed Luke was her father. While I’m not too invested in that idea anymore, I do want something better than the inconsistent, pointless and lazy answer that TLJ gave us.

Mark Hamill said that JJ’s version of Episode VIII was “much different” than Rian’s version. Daisy said that JJ had developed an outline and ideas for VIII that Rian pretty much tossed aside. It speaks for itself honestly.

Also to further answer your question, Oscar, Mark, Daisy, and both Johns have voiced some form of criticism(s) against TLJ.

themandalorianwolf:

A Stormtrooper Rebellion is important

I love animals and I believe in equality and fair treatment for all living things, but the fact that enslaved Troopers who were stolen from their families at a young age takes no priority, not only with the movies but with the fandom as well, disturbs me.

People actually watched Finn confess that him and fuck knows how many more were taken from their families and forced into a terrorist organization.

I’ve seen many people say “Finn doesn’t seem too broken up about.” Newsflash, asshole! Every single Trooper since the Clone Wars was trained to ignore any feelings and focus on the objective at hand and the First Order Stormtroopers were trained by the complete monster Brendol Hux who wanted to copy the Clone Troopers way of training the FO’s future soldiers. Just because Finn refused to fire on surrendering, crying, defenseless civilians, doesn’t mean he’s not going to defend himself against people trying to kill him or drag him back to that hell.

Worst of all Finn, and many other Troopers like him, wanted to be good soldiers in the FO’s army. What broke Finn was the senseless murder of innocent life, not because he cared about the New Republic, it’s because he hadn’t been brainwashed into a monster yet.

The Stormtroopers were either taken from their homes at a young age, born into it the First Order, or were blindly recruited young from horrible living conditions.

If there is any victims on the side of the First Order, it’s the Stormtroopers that everyone from the writers to the fandom treat as canon fodder, even though the co-protagonist of the sequel trilogy was a Stormtrooper.

It’s not just animals, either. They’re talking about DROID liberation in the franchise now and still no peep about Stormtroopers.

finnreyultd:

Chewie: [comment in Shyriiwook]

Rey: You’re right, Finn’s lips do look like they’re as soft as Felucian cloudbread …

Chewie: [statement in Shyriiwook]

Rey: I know! Those shirts definitely show off his amazing shoulders. That was the first thing I noticed on Crait. Well, one of the first things.

Chewie: [declaration in Shyriiwook]

Rey: Well, we haven’t had any time alone for me to tell him that yet, but … I will. It just has to be the right moment. I can’t just blurt it out like a kriffhead, you know?

Chewie:

Rey: Do I know where Finn is now? Well the last time I saw him, he was talking to General Organa. Why?

:’) For Finnrey Fridays’ Languages theme, done on commission by the amazing @goldengrimoire3!

To clarify, I like Finn. I don’t think he’s Force-sensitive, because I don’t think that Lucasfilm is that subtle or creative, but he works well as a character. What I said before was just nitpickery.

You think he’s unrealistic but he also works well as a character. Okay. It’s fine whether you like him or not, it’s just interesting that fans give extremely inconsistent reasons for dismissing him in some way. Maybe that speaks to the complexity of the character, idk.