stealing is a crime AND drugs is a crime too BUT if you steal drugs the two crimes cancel out and it is like basically doing a good. trust me i am a lawyerman
Yeah John is an actor with awesome comic chops and I think a lot of people used that as an excuse to pass him off as comic relief. He has plenty of serious scenes, though, where his heartthrob handsomeness comes into full relief. I know intellectually Daisy is a beautiful young woman but on a personal level she fills me with meh. Adam… omg 😂 I don’t think he’s a conventionally handsome guy, but I can see something endearingly coltish and and awkward in him. I wonder if that’s one reason people perceive his character as much younger? Harrison did look good lol.
And there you have it, @thephantomporg84 denigrating someone’s looks for not thinking Adam is handsome. This is how you know they’re an anti SJW btw, because “Trigglypuff” is a derogatory nickname trolls have given a Hampshire College student seen protesting a talk by Milo Yiannopoulos and other alt-right figures. As promised, asshole, you are hereby blocked. Sorry for not blocking this dillhole sooner @sifrin , I guess I assumed they’d get bored and go away on their own.
“Porg enthusiast, Kylo Ren apologist, Metal Gear Solid appreciator, sci-fi art fangirl, pessimist, misanthrope.”
Wow, didn’t know mirrorverse Kylo had an account here.
Shouldn’t Mirrorverse Kylo be a good person, though?
The funny part is that I don’t think I’ve blocked most of the reylows I’ve interacted with, unless they got aggressive or ignored requests to be left alone.
Yeah John is an actor with awesome comic chops and I think a lot of people used that as an excuse to pass him off as comic relief. He has plenty of serious scenes, though, where his heartthrob handsomeness comes into full relief. I know intellectually Daisy is a beautiful young woman but on a personal level she fills me with meh. Adam… omg 😂 I don’t think he’s a conventionally handsome guy, but I can see something endearingly coltish and and awkward in him. I wonder if that’s one reason people perceive his character as much younger? Harrison did look good lol.
And there you have it, @thephantomporg84 denigrating someone’s looks for not thinking Adam is handsome. This is how you know they’re an anti SJW btw, because “Trigglypuff” is a derogatory nickname trolls have given a Hampshire College student seen protesting a talk by Milo Yiannopoulos and other alt-right figures. As promised, asshole, you are hereby blocked. Sorry for not blocking this dillhole sooner @sifrin , I guess I assumed they’d get bored and go away on their own.
For some reason, I’m seeing a lot of posts from people who don’t ship R//ylo, who don’t seem to know a lot of the details abt what happened, but are choosing to comment off of what they do know (which isn’t the full story), and I just want to remind people that it’s really worth your time to learn about the extent of the situation before making a post or jumping to conclusions. Especially if it’s something that concerns black fans.
This is especially important to keep in mind if you’re a non-black fan. There have been instances in our fandom where non-black fans have tried to police how black fans interact with each other, or with the source material, without fully knowing the context of what they’re talking about. There’s also been an element of tone-policing in what’s been said to them, where a lot of it has been “We shouldn’t say/do/write this because we should be better and we don’t need to give R//ylos any ammunition!” Like, this is essentially what respectability politics is, and if you’re a non-black fan saying this to black fans, it’s not a good look and we need to stop doing this.
I think what has been lost in all of the hysteria is that the posts were directly skewering racist fanwork that is created and supported by reylo fans. They’ve rallied behind multiple authors of blatantly racist fanfics – fics that have mountains of kudos and adoring comments.
They were shocked and appalled to see the way Black fans memed it (racist Kylo Ren), made it all about a slur that made them uncomfortable – more uncomfortable than humiliating and gleefully killing Finn in a popular fanwork. Like. We see that. We can’t stop it, but we can laugh at it, and it doesn’t have to be in a “socially acceptable” way.
The edit of “Kylo” trying to run over Finn? It’s a parody of actual Reylo fanwork and anti-finn meta. Why is it hard to look at parodies of racist fanwork, but not the fanwork itself? Because, with few exceptions, reylos are eating up brutally anti-finn stories on AO3 and aggressively defending its right to exist.
They saw a slur weilded by Black people and removed all context to make “antis” (and ftr the very fact that the perjorative “anti” is used as a label for reylo-critical fans instead of the much larger anti-Finn crowd should tell you something about how Black people are regarded in the ST fandom) look like the “real racists.”
Non-reylo fans who are more sympathetic with reylos seeing a slur used by Black fans in the Kylo Ren tag than Black fans seeing the fandom embrace unambiguously racist fanwork might want to step back and consider why the feelings of these shippers matter more.
Reylos with all their arts, literature and English Ph.Ds don’t understand satire.
Non blacks who don’t understand black humour and the culture behind it commenting on and tone policing how black fans interract with fandom claiming moral high ground.
The clownery truly writes itself.
Reylos are proof that the mentality of “its only racist if you use the N word” is more damaging to Black people than helpful. Because it allows them to get away with all manner of antiblackness (while accusing Black fans of being the “real” white supremacists lol).
As long as they don’t channel their ancestors and smash that N key, they can claim that nothing they do is racist, and everything Black fans do is.
I’m fairly convinced most Reylos know what they’re doing. They will never admit that they’re being disingenuous in how they choose to apply their standards, but the fact that their sympathies only extend as far as themselves and no further is entirely on purpose. Like in this ask, where the anon completely skips over ALL of the pertinent details, including the race of the “antis” in the tag who were joking among themselves, but they took the pains to ensure that people know how at least one of the Reylos is a black person. even though all the other Reylos who were ganging up on the group of black fans were all white people, and terribly racist white people with a proven track record of being racist at that.
The gaps in this description were completely intentional. It was intended to eliminate sympathy for the fans of colour who were unduly harassed and deleted by Tumblr and focus this idea of victimhood on the Reylos. It was intended to portray black fans as belligerent people who went out of their way to harass innocent Reylos. That’s just racism 101 at this point, and it really sucks that non-black anti-Reylos didn’t get that on multiple occasions.
I mean we all have our own wishes and desires for the story, but here I have to disagree with you. The implicit confirmation on TLJ that the Knight of Ren are a group of former Jedi students that chose the Dark Side alongside Kylo is one of the few things I like about that movie.
Not just because it confirmed a popular theory about them but because it answers the question, “why did it have to be Leia’s and Han’s son?”. Not to mention it counters the claim that Kylo is the most important character in the ST, rather he’s the most unimportant character in the story.
Why?
Because it didn’t have to be Leia’s and Han’s son. Kylo Ren could literally be anyone and it would change nothing about the story. Kylo is a generic bad guy from a good family, with a good childhood, who chose to promote fascism and genocide because of a massive case of self entitlement.
I mean, let’s remove Ben Solo from the equation for a moment. Let’s say that Ben Solo was never born. What would change? Nothing, that’s what.
The First Order would still exist. Starkiller Base would still be build. The Republic would still not take the First Order serious as a threat until it was too late. Hosnia would still be destroyed. Snoke would still exist and find an apprentice and right here is where the fact that the Knights of Ren are other Jedi students shows that the existence of Ben Solo as Kylo Ren makes no fucking difference becomes the most important.
Why?
Who turned those other students? Hardly Darth Negging. Kylo Ren might be a lot of things, but master manipulator isn’t one of them. Clearly Snoke had a hand in that too.
So in a universe where Ben Solo doesn’t exist? It is simply one of these other students that becomes the main target for Snoke’s attention and nothing changes. Luke’s school still gets destroyed and I can see how Luke may still end up on depression island as a result.
Remove Ben Solo from the equation and you have so minor changes. The overall story runs as it always have, just with another original name for the person who goes by Kylo Ren.
Kylo Ren isn’t superfluous, there is a point to him. That people like him can and do come from all over and a lot, too many, comes from good background, good families with loving parents and it is their own sense of self entitlement that makes them choose as they do.
But the existence of the Knights of Ren and the confirmation that they’re old fellow students of Kylo’s shows that Kylo is the most unimportant one, because he could literally be anyone.
Also it’s a good bet that any one of the other KoR would have been smarter and more competent, so if anything Kylo being where he is may be the least worst of possible worlds.
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